Muslims upset at in-your-face lesson in Dutchness

Malsidabym said:
This video is a great idea, I am surprised noone came up with this idea sooner. Should be a requirement to watch a similiar video to immigrate to any country. That way there are no excuses if you behave badly after you have arrived, and encounter things you don't like.

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Yes, good thinking.
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And you guys keep talking about how we impose OUR view on others. Talk about double standards.
 
And you guys keep talking about how we impose OUR view on others. Talk about double standards.
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But Cheb, the video is only showing potential immigrants LEGAL behaviour they will surely witness if they indeed end up living there. This policy stems, for the most part--from what I have read, mind you--from young muslim immigrants thrashing openly gay men in THEIR OWN CITIES. What harm can a video do (besides jihadi snuff flicks)?
 
And you guys keep talking about how we impose OUR view on others. Talk about double standards.
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Ok I was gonna wait till you answered but whatever.
This is not imposing anything. It is saying, "if you come to my country, this is what you will encounter. If you don't like it stay home." And then the individual has the choice, "ball is in thier court".
It can work for any country. Saudi could have a video with thier stuff, westerners view it before visting, if they don't like what they see, stay home. Netherlands, same thing. No double standard involved. In fact it is just straight up honesty. Makes it nice and easy for everyone. No surprises that way. No excuses.
 
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This video idea should prevent any possible problems an immigrant would have with integration, to any country around the world. I Just don't understand what the double standard comment is about. It doesn't even fit the topic.
 
surely in today's world the prospective immigrant has a good idea what to expect without needing a special video. i mean western culture is pervasive world wide.
 
surely in today's world the prospective immigrant has a good idea what to expect without needing a special video. i mean western culture is pervasive world wide.
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This may be true, but the video would eliminate any doubt. Kind of like, shall we say the waiver you sign before embarking on any kind of risky entertainment activities.
 
Malsidabym said:
This may be true, but the video would eliminate any doubt. Kind of like, shall we say the waiver you sign before embarking on any kind of risky entertainment activities.
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something like "i understand before i come to ______ that it is a craven, dengenerate, immoral, ammoral, sinful and perverted hell-bound society and hereby testify that i won't bitch about it once i'm there." :giggling:
 
snakelegs said:
something like "i understand before i come to ______ that it is a craven, dengenerate, immoral, ammoral, sinful and perverted hell-bound society and hereby testify that i won't bitch about it once i'm there." :giggling:
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exactly. ( I may even like it a little)
 
snakelegs said:
something like "i understand before i come to ______ that it is a craven, dengenerate, immoral, ammoral, sinful and perverted hell-bound society and hereby testify that i won't bitch about it once i'm there." :giggling:
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How about copying the Americans - they ask a whole lot of silly questions on their immigration forms ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of a terrorist organisation?" for instance) which no one in their right mind would answer with anything but a "no". The advantage is that if they did lie, the Americans can strip them of their citizenship and deport them without any fuss. So how about "I understand before I come to ______ that it is a craven, dengenerate, immoral, ammoral, sinful and perverted Hell-bound society and hereby swear that I won't bitch about it once I'm there and you can deport me if I do."?
 
So how about "I understand before I come to ______ that it is a craven, dengenerate, immoral, ammoral, sinful and perverted Hell-bound society and hereby swear that I won't bitch about it once I'm there and you can deport me if I do."?
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Thats all I want. The N.B.C. The No Bitching Clause. Perfect.
 
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In the meantime the video has been censored: no topless women, homosexual weddings or a popconcert.

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In the meantime the video has been censored: no topless women, homosexual weddings or a popconcert.
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Why did they change the video? Some Islamic pressure group whinning about something as minor as this? That is pretty weak.
 
Well would you like it if porn was shoved in your face? You can accept something without having to want to see it forcibly.
 
If you go to most beaches in Australia, you are likely to see women topless and many in G strings. Why not see that before you come to make sure you can handle it- so its not such a huge shock to see the naked body- We dont want you guys having heart attacks when you come here because your morals will be so offended.
Also I go on the bus all the time and hold my girlfriends hand or put my arm around her- Maybe the best time to see something like that is before you come here- I mean- noone here even batts an eyelid at us, but if you have just arrived from Saudi- You may get such a shock you will be outraged- and that would not be fair if you came here and want to live by our societies rules.
 
irsha said:
If you go to most beaches in Australia, you are likely to see women topless and many in G strings. Why not see that before you come to make sure you can handle it- so its not such a huge shock to see the naked body- We dont want you guys having heart attacks when you come here because your morals will be so offended.
Also I go on the bus all the time and hold my girlfriends hand or put my arm around her- Maybe the best time to see something like that is before you come here- I mean- noone here even batts an eyelid at us, but if you have just arrived from Saudi- You may get such a shock you will be outraged- and that would not be fair if you came here and want to live by our societies rules.
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So tell them.. no need to show them.
 
Yes but taht is going against their religion to see naked women. Fine, show them homosecuals holding hands if you must, but I don't see the point in showing them the naked women. Tell them that women are allowed to go around naked on beaches and if they don't like it they should stay away. Simple.
 

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