My failure to understand

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I stated I am Canadian. my PRIME MINISTER has not attacked your country. I do not support Bush. What he is doing is not only illegal and immoral but greedy. I support him no more than I support suicide bombers because he is no better.

Mischeif warrants death. death = peace?

You are the one who appears to be one sided. You jump to conclusions and assumptions.
 
i didnt know your view on bush, and i was jumping to conclusions MCcool, your right....but what is thiss

MCCOOL'S COMMENT, QUOTE '' Why must everything be a fight? Do you ask yourself this? I just heard a Muslim cleric declare a one million dollar bounty on the head of the cartoonist. A CARTOONIST! He is probably a young man making a mediocre salary with a small family. Does this make sense? Is this okay with your God? If he allows this then I fear every terrible thing I have heard about your religion is true. If your God tells you to fight, to die, to defend against words and emotions then it explains EXACTLY why the middle east hasn't seen peace in a long time.

Religions are not to have soldiers, Nation States have soldiers. Religions do not tell you to fight. If the Qur'an and Allah tell you too then there is little hope for the Muslims I fear.''END QUOTE.....

IF YOU SEE THIS ÁS JUST A ''CARTOON'' THEN YOU SEE IT WRONG, AND YOU NEED TO RESEARCH....THIS IS A ATTACK ON OUR BELOVED PROPHET(PBH)..A MAN WHO YOU NEED TO DO RESEARCH ON !!

EVERYTHING YOU HEARD ABOUT OUR RELIGION IS TRUE YOU SAY.......WELL I HEARD THAT THE SUN HAS TO RADIO STATIONS?!?!?!? DOES THAT MAKE IT TRUEEEEEE?????

OFCORSE NOT, PEOPLE SAY WHAT EVER THEY WANT, THEY MAKE STUFF UP, THIS IS NOT BEYOND, IT HAPPENS ... YOU CANT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR THATS UBSURD
 
Listen to your response. You are irrational. It makes no sense.

First off I said "If he allows this then I fear every terrible thing I have heard about your religion is true" I don't believe your religion deems this behavior to be appropriate.

Second, It was just a cartoon. If you take everything as a stab to your heart than you will be angry your entire life and no good will ever come of it.
 
If! Meaning Theres A Possibility?!?
God Is Not Unjust!! And Neither Is Islam!!

Well Since Its Impossible For You To Know My Intensions Im Not Angry, How You Say Its Just A Cartoon, With Everything Thats Goin On In The World, Then Poof This Cartoon Just To Top It Off??

Is That Inconsiderate Or What??? Is That Right, Moraly??

It Feels Like A Stab Buddy, Becuase I Care About People Ok, And It Hurts To See Children Murdered, And Sisters Raped, And Brothers Tortured, And Then They Dare To Ridicule Our Prophet(peace Be Upon Him)....how Dare They !!!
 
this whole thing is very sad,
i think the europeans deliberately set a trap and, sadly, some muslims jumped right in, which was entirely predictable.
i also think that the violent protests (like in pakistan) were orchestrated.
 
McCool said:
Fight v.
1. To attempt to harm or gain power over an adversary by blows or with weapons.
2. To engage in a quarrel; argue

Fighting is Fighting, whether with words or guns. You make no sense Aljawaad; Fight, Defend, Honour, Injustice. What are these to you? Words? Commands? I thought you follow a religion of peace? Do you achieve Peace through Conflict?

Why must everything be a fight? Do you ask yourself this? I just heard a Muslim cleric declare a one million dollar bounty on the head of the cartoonist. A CARTOONIST! He is probably a young man making a mediocre salary with a small family. Does this make sense? Is this okay with your God? If he allows this then I fear every terrible thing I have heard about your religion is true. If your God tells you to fight, to die, to defend against words and emotions then it explains EXACTLY why the middle east hasn't seen peace in a long time.

Religions are not to have soldiers, Nation States have soldiers. Religions do not tell you to fight. If the Qur'an and Allah tell you too then there is little hope for the Muslims I fear.
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I'm going to step in defence of Abdul here.

The second definition of 'fight' is not necessarily violent: 2. To engage in a quarrel; argue.
You could argue that it is part of democracy to clash horns in this manner, using words only of course. Elections and parliamentary debates are described using this kind of language: "put up a fight", "fighting for survival", "fight for the right" etc.

I was brought up Christian and sang "Onward Christian Soldiers, marching as to war..." on regular occasions. The Americans fought for God and country in the second world war. Religion has always been a rallying point for a good fight.

If you have ever been the victim of bullying: a group or person of superior strength to you who insults you or someone close to you, then you ought to be able to muster up some empathy for Muslims in the face of the "cartoons". Elton John has just won compensation for slander from two newspapers who wrote defamatory stuff about him. One of his main arguments apart from the untruthfulness was that it hindered the AIDs cause that he was representing at that particular occasion. Should EJ have just shut up and turned the other cheek?

Although he might be dead, Mahommed is still a human being, and the cartoons have been deemed defamatory by a majority of Muslims. The fact that some Muslims in some countries have reacted violently has been overblown by the media, and as someone said, these people are likely to have other agendas. The reaction of the majority of Muslims in the West shows that the cartoons are indeed defamatory and slanderous. There is no question about that largely because the depictions harm the cause of successful integration of Muslims into the west. Within a few years it will become unlawful in western countries to depict the prophet, just as it is unlawful to swear on prime time TV, reveal information covered by the Privacy Act, or by the confidentiality agreement you signed with your last employer etc etc. Once it is unlawful, then presumably you won't have any "difficulty to understand".
 
McCool.... did you notice how the media was just beginning to calm down about the 'muslim community' and then suddenly these cartoons were published out of the blue.... oh look the 'muslims' are back on telly.. look at the aggresive little things [MAD][/MAD]....

i think the cartoons were published to provoke muslims.... because of course when it comes insulting islam naturally a muslim is deeply offended....

however i do agree that some muslims did act quite foolishly (referring to the guy that dressed as a suicide bomber - notice it was only the ONE GUY)
but this is exactly the reaction that the media wanted .... keep up the good work on giving islam a bad name i soppose
 
wysiwyg said:
I'm going to step in defence of Abdul here.

The second definition of 'fight' is not necessarily violent: 2. To engage in a quarrel; argue.
You could argue that it is part of democracy to clash horns in this manner, using words only of course. Elections and parliamentary debates are described using this kind of language: "put up a fight", "fighting for survival", "fight for the right" etc.

I was brought up Christian and sang "Onward Christian Soldiers, marching as to war..." on regular occasions. The Americans fought for God and country in the second world war. Religion has always been a rallying point for a good fight.

If you have ever been the victim of bullying: a group or person of superior strength to you who insults you or someone close to you, then you ought to be able to muster up some empathy for Muslims in the face of the "cartoons". Elton John has just won compensation for slander from two newspapers who wrote defamatory stuff about him. One of his main arguments apart from the untruthfulness was that it hindered the AIDs cause that he was representing at that particular occasion. Should EJ have just shut up and turned the other cheek?

Although he might be dead, Mahommed is still a human being, and the cartoons have been deemed defamatory by a majority of Muslims. The fact that some Muslims in some countries have reacted violently has been overblown by the media, and as someone said, these people are likely to have other agendas. The reaction of the majority of Muslims in the West shows that the cartoons are indeed defamatory and slanderous. There is no question about that largely because the depictions harm the cause of successful integration of Muslims into the west. Within a few years it will become unlawful in western countries to depict the prophet, just as it is unlawful to swear on prime time TV, reveal information covered by the Privacy Act, or by the confidentiality agreement you signed with your last employer etc etc. Once it is unlawful, then presumably you won't have any "difficulty to understand".
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Hope that you got your ans from that quote McCool.
Anyway i'd have replied myself if this Bro had not replied. I'll be waiting for you though, Do give valid arguments and don't make me lose my time.

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