My thanks, to all of you.

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

^Yes Truue....Love Sharing Indeed it helps a lot..

 

[Life_Is_Short]

I am privileged to be part of a forum whose non-muslim members express an interest in Islam. It's really quite something/. hew

 

[Islam_sister]

italianGuy, inshaAllah I really do hope you to find a way to communicate with your family in palestine. This is such a beautiful heart warming post. InshaAllah everything will work out for you Allah will for sure help you Seek the Almighty's help everything will be good inshaAllah. As a sister said in the earlier post

Maybe just maybe Insha'Allah you will become a part of our Ummah. So as long as your heart is sincere towards Allah, He will NO DOUBT guide you. Perhaps this is a sign from Allah to you.

And who knows this could be a sign from Allah.. I wish you the best really!.. InshaAllah May Allah put the light of islam in your heart and make things easy for you..Ameen

Keep searching keep striving for what you believe and dont let anyone tell you otherwise. Stay true to yourself and those around you and Keep Allah to rememberance =D Your a good person mashaAllah =D and i can just see that from this post.

Remeber you can always count on us people on this forum to help you thorugh the good and bad times you go through..

KEEP YOUR HEAD UP! =D

 

[Italianguy]

Hope you become Muslim!

R u palestinian or italian? if a bit of both how palestinian are u ?

Islam is the only true religion, so go to your nearest mosque and ask for more information about Islam.

Also nice topic!:shade:

Thanks. I am not %100 percent sure as of yet how Palestinian i am? I didn't know there were levels?;D

From what I have been told recently, my great, great , great grandfather (Nonno), married a Palestinian woman. How, when, where I am not sure. Suppossedly he (nonno) was there (Palestine) at some point for some reason? She, i think moved to Italy, or Sicily shortly after he was there, after that they were married.

My family doesn't speak of it much...not sure why? I would guess that because back then it would probably have caused a ....ripple... in the family's name? And the fact that, from what I am told, she was a Muslim probably wouldn't have gone over that well with the elders then, being strict Roman Catholics?

A few days ago, I demanded from my mother and her sisters as well as some of the elders in my family to give me any information they can on this matter. After discussing this with my uncles for a few days, they released me some info, not much, but enough to start with. My mother, yesterday was so happy I was opening this door so-to-speak, in our family she can't do that, so she lives through me when it comes to dealing with the elder men....not that the women in are family are suppressed in any way(don't get that idea) but they know not to step on toes...if you know what i mean.

I got more info today.

 

[Italianguy]

italianGuy, inshaAllah I really do hope you to find a way to communicate with your family in palestine. This is such a beautiful heart warming post. InshaAllah everything will work out for you Allah will for sure help you Seek the Almighty's help everything will be good inshaAllah. As a sister said in the earlier post

Maybe just maybe Insha'Allah you will become a part of our Ummah. So as long as your heart is sincere towards Allah, He will NO DOUBT guide you. Perhaps this is a sign from Allah to you.

And who knows this could be a sign from Allah.. I wish you the best really!.. InshaAllah May Allah put the light of islam in your heart and make things easy for you..Ameen

Keep searching keep striving for what you believe and dont let anyone tell you otherwise. Stay true to yourself and those around you and Keep Allah to rememberance =D Your a good person mashaAllah =D and i can just see that from this post.

Remeber you can always count on us people on this forum to help you thorugh the good and bad times you go through..

KEEP YOUR HEAD UP! =D

Thank you!

I am working hard on trying to get more info on them (Palestinian side) it's had because of name changes and such, I don't even know if they are there? Who they are? It's nerve rackinghew

I am very big on keeping up with family. My Nonno was usually the one who makes sure we all keep together....but he passedimsad

It is suppossed to be the elder men who do this, like a God father of the family...no not like the movie:hmm: but the position belongs to them, they still do a good job , but they are getting too old now and I guess it's my turn....just something else to stack on my plateimsad

I will keep trying, more info is comming in as I type, now that I asked, the whole family is in an uproar,...not in a bad way.

 

[waqas maqsood]

'There are many things my father taught me here in this room. He taught me: keep your friends close, but your enemies closer'.

 

[Islam_sister]

Thank you!

I am working hard on trying to get more info on them (Palestinian side) it's had because of name changes and such, I don't even know if they are there? Who they are? It's nerve rackinghew

I am very big on keeping up with family. My Nonno was usually the one who makes sure we all keep together....but he passedimsad

It is suppossed to be the elder men who do this, like a God father of the family...no not like the movie:hmm: but the position belongs to them, they still do a good job , but they are getting too old now and I guess it's my turn....just something else to stack on my plateimsad

I will keep trying, more info is comming in as I type, now that I asked, the whole family is in an uproar,...not in a bad way.

Np:statisfie.. Aww man really i am sorry to hear that.. well thats good get every one active in this and trust me be patient everything shall work out =)..
Lool @ no not the movie..lol.. ur jokes mashaAllah but really i do wish you the best and as i said keep your head up and never give up =D..

 

[M..x]

It wouldn't let me rep you again. What a beautiful post. Thankyou & I hope tha same for you.. Peace and blessings be upon you =)

 

[Italianguy]

It wouldn't let me rep you again. What a beautiful post. Thankyou & I hope tha same for you.. Peace and blessings be upon you =)

May God bless you and your family!

Thank you for your kind words.

 

[Italianguy]

Italianguy, regardless of any conflict of interest you think you have. Know this: Suffering concerns of others ought to concern us all nevermind the metaphysics of those involved or of those committing them.

Keep that in mind always. Your post in this thread showed a great deal of sincerity, but it ought not be viewed as a choice between Islam or Christianity to condemn suffering. I suspect your dissonance displayed lies in this contradiction you've built yourself into.

Friend, my english,...no so good but what did you say? Are you saying I am a lier?

I did not say it was a deciding factor in a choice between Islam or Christianity.....? I am simply stating my feelings and qestions i have about both faiths. Yes i feel a strong pull from Islam....yes I feel a strong pull from Christianity...i am beeing pulled by both arms, but not forcefully! It is whatever is in God's plan for me.

Are you calling my faith a contradiction?? Are you calling Islam a contradiction????

To what authority do you have, to make such accusations? You don't believe either faith!

If i thought i had problems, i couldn't imagine facing God and having to answer the question you will get. Step off bro! I don't need any more atheists telling me about my faith!

 

[CosmicPathos]

Friend, my english,...no so good but what did you say? Are you saying I am a lier?

I did not say it was a deciding factor in a choice between Islam or Christianity.....? I am simply stating my feelings and qestions i have about both faiths. Yes i feel a strong pull from Islam....yes I feel a strong pull from Christianity...i am beeing pulled by both arms, but not forcefully! It is whatever is in God's plan for me.

Are you calling my faith a contradiction?? Are you calling Islam a contradiction????

To what authority do you have, to make such accusations? You don't believe either faith!

If i thought i had problems, i couldn't imagine facing God and having to answer the question you will get. Step off bro! I don't need any more atheists telling me about my faith!

Ignore him. He still has not provided evidence that universe is eternal in the other thread.

 

[transition?]

Family pressure can be intense.

Bahaha, I used to think I was really tough and it wouldn't affect me if my parents didnt agree with my religious choices, but I was a sensitive one. But I stood up for my choices because the truth is reality, and no one can ever take that from you. If we have one thing, we have our freedom of conscience. No one controls what it's here >> heart, but God.

So May Allah Guide you onto the truth.
For me, I thought of it this way:
Islam is far above anything that is tangible on this Earth, the truth is a pillar that none can destroy even if all gathered to do so.

This is what being a Muslim is, it's beyond family, state, institution:

Even so, I might at least have had a homeland. I had none. Although born in Switzerland, I was not Swiss. My mother had grown up in France and loved the French above all others, but I was not French. Was I English? I never felt so. My mother never tired of reminding me that the English were cold, stupid, and sexless without intellect and without culture. I did not want to be like them. So where-if anywhere-did I belong? It seems to me in retrospect, that this strange childhood was a good preparation for adherence to Islam. Wherever he may have been born and whatever his race, the Muslim’s homeland is the Dar-ul-Islam, the House of Islam. His passport, here and in the Hereafter, is the simple confession of Faith, La ilaha ill-Allah. He does not expect - or should not expect - security or stability in this world and must always keep in mind the fact that death may take him tomorrow. He has no firm roots here in this fragile earth. His roots are above in that which alone endures.
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/166/

source

 

[waqas maqsood]

I am simply stating my feelings and qestions i have about both faiths. Yes i feel a strong pull from Islam....yes I feel a strong pull from Christianity...i am beeing pulled by both arms, but not forcefully! It is whatever is in God's plan for me. =QUOTE]

From what I can analyZe from this paragraph...

U feel a strong pull from Islam because your conscious telling you its the right and perfect religion... Even though you have couple of unanswered questions to clarrify...

U feel a strong pull from Christianity because you spent your life as a Christian and its hard to let it go...

As I said... thats my analysis.. I might be wrong but thats the impression I get bro...

 

[Skavau]

Friend, my english,...no so good but what did you say? Are you saying I am a lier?

No I'm not saying that all.

I did not say it was a deciding factor in a choice between Islam or Christianity.....? I am simply stating my feelings and qestions i have about both faiths. Yes i feel a strong pull from Islam....yes I feel a strong pull from Christianity...i am beeing pulled by both arms, but not forcefully! It is whatever is in God's plan for me.

That is what I referred to. I believe (from what you wrote) that you were suffering from a conflict of interest over Christianity and Islam due to the suffering of relations in Palestine. I was merely pointing out that suffering of other humans is an issue that transcends metaphysical belief and that you shouldn't let it drag you down like this.

Are you calling my faith a contradiction?? Are you calling Islam a contradiction????

Uh, no, I'm not... I was giving you advice..

To what authority do you have, to make such accusations? You don't believe either faith!

If i thought i had problems, i couldn't imagine facing God and having to answer the question you will get. Step off bro! I don't need any more atheists telling me about my faith!

I didn't mention your faith. This is a language barrier.

 

[Musliman]

You sound so humble and friendly Italianguy, I only wish Allah guides you and shows you the right path

Inchallah

 

[Italianguy]

No I'm not saying that all.


That is what I referred to. I believe (from what you wrote) that you were suffering from a conflict of interest over Christianity and Islam due to the suffering of relations in Palestine. I was merely pointing out that suffering of other humans is an issue that transcends metaphysical belief and that you shouldn't let it drag you down like this.


Uh, no, I'm not... I was giving you advice..

To what authority do you have, to make such accusations? You don't believe either faith!


I didn't mention your faith. This is a language barrier.

Sorry Savau, I must have taken you wrongimsad It's not like me to be aggressive like that so I appologise. Thanks for the advice and kind words.

God bless

 

[★ηαѕιнα★]

Salaam 'Alayk ItalianDude!

Subhanallah I was thinking just yesterday you have many qualities and similarities of a muslim. If your profile did not state your Christian I wouldnt have noticed at the beginning.

Did have a few things to say (as usual, cant keep my mouth shut even when i want too).
You shouldnt keep your emotions in like that. Maybe you should buy a book to write your feelings in like that in poemform? Helps you deal with your emotions. If you want to talk to your wife about it just let her read it sometimes. You dont have to use words but she will still know whats going on with you. I think its not only the seeing you like that, that hurts her. Maybe its also the not sharing your troubles with her? Marriage is teamwork, even in "not so good times".
And I also think you should let it out sometimes. Just cry! If you dont want anyone to see you, go somewhere where you are alone. Keeping it bottled up like that will eventually bring you down with a burnout or so. You will also be more accesible for deseases due to a weaker, how do you call that, system that protects you from deseases??
In my culture we are supposed to be happy and strong all the time as well. Even woman! Me being the oldest had a burden as well, though its not as huge as yours! When I went trough tough times I couldnt cry as well, even being a woman. Wanna guess what I do know? I cry when I need to. Did it in front of dad once, saw it did hurt him much soo I know what you mean.
After that I picked my moments when i was alone and just cried when i felt the need.

About the family thing, how about delegating? Ask the next brother-in-line to take over some of your tasks. Like they come too you when they have trouble with family and they go to your brother for advice about school and work and stuff. From what you have told you are a very social boss. Nothing wrong with that but you do have to realise you have two careers now. Being a director and a Social Worker. If theres loads of trouble in the lives of your employees maybe you should hire a Social Worker to deal with all that..

Just some thoughts for you to ponder over. And btw dont forget to do fun things to relax and set your minds of that burden you have. Enjoy your family!Days tend to be very grey when you dont.

Also wanted to say you have a great sense of humor! Keep it up! Adds a bit of flavour to this forum. Found it a bit dull when I enrolled at first. ;D (mode's and admin's its true dont be mad)
And a little bit of humor cant be missing. Do you know you almost made me cry in a packed library at school just now? That would be embaressing seriously. Wouldnt be able too show my face again. Great post btw you have feeling for writing. ;D

Im off..do a very interesting literaturestudy+o(

Ill keep you in my duas!

 

[Italianguy]

Salaam 'Alayk ItalianDude!

Subhanallah I was thinking just yesterday you have many qualities and similarities of a muslim. If your profile did not state your Christian I wouldnt have noticed at the beginning.

Did have a few things to say (as usual, cant keep my mouth shut even when i want too).
You shouldnt keep your emotions in like that. Maybe you should buy a book to write your feelings in like that in poemform? Helps you deal with your emotions. If you want to talk to your wife about it just let her read it sometimes. You dont have to use words but she will still know whats going on with you. I think its not only the seeing you like that, that hurts her. Maybe its also the not sharing your troubles with her? Marriage is teamwork, even in "not so good times".
And I also think you should let it out sometimes. Just cry! If you dont want anyone to see you, go somewhere where you are alone. Keeping it bottled up like that will eventually bring you down with a burnout or so. You will also be more accesible for deseases due to a weaker, how do you call that, system that protects you from deseases??
In my culture we are supposed to be happy and strong all the time as well. Even woman! Me being the oldest had a burden as well, though its not as huge as yours! When I went trough tough times I couldnt cry as well, even being a woman. Wanna guess what I do know? I cry when I need to. Did it in front of dad once, saw it did hurt him much soo I know what you mean.
After that I picked my moments when i was alone and just cried when i felt the need.

About the family thing, how about delegating? Ask the next brother-in-line to take over some of your tasks. Like they come too you when they have trouble with family and they go to your brother for advice about school and work and stuff. From what you have told you are a very social boss. Nothing wrong with that but you do have to realise you have two careers now. Being a director and a Social Worker. If theres loads of trouble in the lives of your employees maybe you should hire a Social Worker to deal with all that..

Just some thoughts for you to ponder over. And btw dont forget to do fun things to relax and set your minds of that burden you have. Enjoy your family!Days tend to be very grey when you dont.

Also wanted to say you have a great sense of humor! Keep it up! Adds a bit of flavour to this forum. Found it a bit dull when I enrolled at first. ;D (mode's and admin's its true dont be mad)
And a little bit of humor cant be missing. Do you know you almost made me cry in a packed library at school just now? That would be embaressing seriously. Wouldnt be able too show my face again. Great post btw you have feeling for writing. ;D

Im off..do a very interesting literaturestudy+o(

Ill keep you in my duas!

Thanks sis!

 

[Italianguy]

I am simply stating my feelings and qestions i have about both faiths. Yes i feel a strong pull from Islam....yes I feel a strong pull from Christianity...i am beeing pulled by both arms, but not forcefully! It is whatever is in God's plan for me. =QUOTE]

From what I can analyZe from this paragraph...

U feel a strong pull from Islam because your conscious telling you its the right and perfect religion... Even though you have couple of unanswered questions to clarrify...

U feel a strong pull from Christianity because you spent your life as a Christian and its hard to let it go...

As I said... thats my analysis.. I might be wrong but thats the impression I get bro...

Thank you for your thoughts. I met with some of the family today for a sit down......things just went from bad, to.......I'M LEAVING THE COUNTRY:heated:

 

[AlbanianMuslim]

Sorry but why did they go bad? Did you tell them your converting or something?
Im just a bit confused sorry