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Hello,

19 year old white male interested in Islam. However, I completely reject Christ as the son of god.

furthermore, i lean more towards paganism. I am just here to learn. And yes, i LOVE black metal - and no, I promise I am not a troll.

Many blessings,
Rick
 
Misz_Muslimah said:
Hello RickHolm and welcome to the forum :)
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Thank you!

May I ask you some questions about islam?

I served in the US Military, so I know Islam is not what the common american think it is, and is not all about wars and bombs, so do not expect those questions.
 
^ Sure can..
In fact, there are many knowledgeable members on this forum..so go ahead and ask whatever questions you may have..
 
Misz_Muslimah said:
^ Sure can..
In fact, there are many knowledgeable members on this forum..so go ahead and ask whatever questions you may have..
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Alright.

My main reason for not having a religion is all of the LAWS that are set forth. I do not like doing that. I want to do what I want to do - or at least enjoy. For example, i do not like hurting or killing without reason - and i enjoy american music. Black metal. I have read many muslims are against metal, and thats the thing that sets me off. I am a musician, and i have a demo tape coming out in April. It's part of "who" i am.

So, with all of that in mind, how restrictive are the rules for Islam?
 
^ Okay, to be honest..many of the rules in Islam are for a good purpose..for example..we don't drink alchol becuase it damages health and makes you intoxicated..women cover up so that guys aern't intimidated by them and so forth..all the rules have been set by Allah (God) and God knows best..we're not completely resticted and Islam does not restict everything and we can live our lives the way we want, but all we do is live our lives according to the rules set in Islam..
And the beautiful thing about Islam is when you start practising your religion, you begin to realise the beauty of islam, and the effect it has on your religion. Moreover, whatever the media says is completely wrong and not in any aspect, does Islam ever teach terrorism. Furthermore, to reinforce my point, when two muslims meet they say "aslamalakium wa rahmatu laahi wa barakaatu"
which means "May the peace and blessing of God be upon you"..how peaceful..
If you wanna read about what is prohibited in Islam and ask any questions, here's the link:
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/riyad/17/book17.htm
 
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Misz_Muslimah said:
^ Okay, to be honest..many of the rules in Islam are for a good purpose..for example..we don't drink alchol becuase it damages health and makes you intoxicated..women cover up so that guys aern't intimidated by them and so forth..all the rules have been set by Allah (God) and God knows best..
If you wanna read about what is prohibited in Islam and ask any questions, here's the link:
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/riyad/17/book17.htm
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thank you very much :)

I will go read this.
Is there anyway I can get a arabic-english quran for free? I have seen that there are websites claiming to do this, but i do not feel like putting my info up on there.

also, it is because i am starting college and do not have much money left, it is on federal granted money.
 
Misz_Muslimah said:
Okay here's some I found:
http://www.quranexplorer.com
http://quranicaudio.com
http://www.quran.com
http://www.ummah.com/what-is-islam/quran/neindex.htm
..Hope you find these websites useful.
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Thank you very much, i prefer actual paper though. I will buy a copy sometime then :) No worries.

I have read the link you gave earlier on - and it seems quite okay, really. The only issue I have is with the no-pictures law, and with the keeping of dogs.

In any case, it will take me some more time to digest it all. Overall, Islam seems decent and respectable enough, however, I am not sure if I, personally, can agree to it.

I have asked Allah (swt) that if he is real, and the true god, that he would show me. I am still waiting.
 
Hello RickHolm :D
Welcome to the Forum. Hopefully you'll learn tons and make plenty of friends :D
PS, I hate metal :p Like any other kind of music? :)
 
Welcome to the forum. Hope your stay here will be beneficial.
 
Fטлку;1266253 said:
Hello RickHolm :D
Welcome to the Forum. Hopefully you'll learn tons and make plenty of friends :D
PS, I hate metal :p Like any other kind of music? :)
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Thank you very much!

And as for other kinds of music, i also like dark ambient - besides that, not very much. Black metal has been my life for about 6 months now. However, i also do enjoy some Sikh Kirtan from time to time, however, I do find the Melodic reading from the Qur'an to be very nice!

When i hear the call to prayer, i am simply moved.
 
RickHolm said:
Thank you very much!
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No problem :D

However, I do find the Melodic reading from the Qur'an to be very nice! When i hear the call to prayer, i am simply moved.
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They do sound awesome :statisfie
Btw- you should reach 50 posts as soon as you can. The Forum totally stinks until one becomes a full member :p
 
Fטлку;1266260 said:

No problem :D


They do sound awesome :statisfie
Btw- you should reach 50 posts as soon as you can. The Forum totally stinks until one becomes a full member :p
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haha, i'm doing my best :)

Does anybody here know anything about the prayer rosary?

I have been through many religions (I am 19) and have yet to find one that suits my belief. I for one do not believe in eternal hell, etc.
 
Welcome to the forum! I have two pages that may be helpful

http://umms.wordpress.com/converts/ <-- geared towards converts, but has a lot of links to introductory sites that are probably helpful for an enquirer as well

http://umms.wordpress.com/quran/ <-- a page of quran resources I just started putting together.

re: free quran, I highly highly highly recommend the program being done by CAIR - http://explore*************/request-a-quran/american-public.html - I'm not sure why it's *** it out, but it's "explore the quran.com", with no spaces. Yes you have to put your information in, and you have to pay for shipping, but it is beyond worth it. The Qur'an they send you is beautiful, expensive, and has excellent footnotes.

re: rules. Honestly, Islam has A LOT of rules. It really does. They're not just there to make our life difficult, they're there so that every act we do is an act of submission to the Divine. I'm not a big rules person myself. I grew up in a mainline protestant church that was more into the Jesus loves you than into any kind of moral regulations. It's taken me several years to come to terms with the rules in Islam, but I think I'm getting there. I see them as a way to reach my Lord. By submitting to the way He wants me to live outwardly, and working to purify my inner self, I can know that what I am doing is pleasing to Him, and that I am taking steps towards Him so that He may run towards me.

Allah Most High says:

“Whomever is hostile to a friend of Mine I declare war against. My slave approaches Me with nothing more beloved to Me than what I have made obligatory upon him, and My slave keeps drawing nearer to Me with voluntary works until I love him. And when I love him, I am his hearing with which he hears, his sight with which he sees, his hand with which he seizes, and his foot with which he walks. If he asks Me, I will surely give to him, and if he seeks refuge in Me, I will surely protect him. I do not hesitate from anything I shall do more than My hesitation to take the soul of the believer who dislikes death; for I dislike displeasing him” (Bukhari).

These rules are a means to draw near to Allah (swt), so that we can experience Him in the best possible way.
 
UmmSqueakster said:
Welcome to the forum! I have two pages that may be helpful

http://umms.wordpress.com/converts/ <-- geared towards converts, but has a lot of links to introductory sites that are probably helpful for an enquirer as well

http://umms.wordpress.com/quran/ <-- a page of quran resources I just started putting together.

re: free quran, I highly highly highly recommend the program being done by CAIR - http://explore*************/request-a-quran/american-public.html - I'm not sure why it's *** it out, but it's "explore the quran.com", with no spaces. Yes you have to put your information in, and you have to pay for shipping, but it is beyond worth it. The Qur'an they send you is beautiful, expensive, and has excellent footnotes.

re: rules. Honestly, Islam has A LOT of rules. It really does. They're not just there to make our life difficult, they're there so that every act we do is an act of submission to the Divine. I'm not a big rules person myself. I grew up in a mainline protestant church that was more into the Jesus loves you than into any kind of moral regulations. It's taken me several years to come to terms with the rules in Islam, but I think I'm getting there. I see them as a way to reach my Lord. By submitting to the way He wants me to live outwardly, and working to purify my inner self, I can know that what I am doing is pleasing to Him, and that I am taking steps towards Him so that He may run towards me.

Allah Most High says:

“Whomever is hostile to a friend of Mine I declare war against. My slave approaches Me with nothing more beloved to Me than what I have made obligatory upon him, and My slave keeps drawing nearer to Me with voluntary works until I love him. And when I love him, I am his hearing with which he hears, his sight with which he sees, his hand with which he seizes, and his foot with which he walks. If he asks Me, I will surely give to him, and if he seeks refuge in Me, I will surely protect him. I do not hesitate from anything I shall do more than My hesitation to take the soul of the believer who dislikes death; for I dislike displeasing him” (Bukhari).

These rules are a means to draw near to Allah (swt), so that we can experience Him in the best possible way.
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Can I pay for shipping via cash or some other method?

Alright, continuing on, about the rules: I guess i could slowly adopt, but it will take a whole lot of time, especially the whole pictures deal. I think i would be a little more liberal (my political views are socialist, and helping out everyone for the good of everyone else) and so on.

In any case, I plan on taking my time. I really, sincerely do. This is a question I will solve and work out.
 
RickHolm said:
haha, i'm doing my best :)

Does anybody here know anything about the prayer rosary?

I have been through many religions (I am 19) and have yet to find one that suits my belief. I for one do not believe in eternal hell, etc.
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Funky: Here is a song you may enjoy - at the end they sing "there is No God but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet"

It is blackened death metal: Link Removed

Imagery may be disturbing and is anti-christian.
 
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Welcome to the forum Rick! Hope you have a beneficial stay God willing.
 
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