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i am confused - would he remain president regardless of the elections in january? does anybody know?

Musharraf to quit army 'in days'

Gen Musharraf imposed emergency rule on 3 November

General's spokesman
President Pervez Musharraf will stand down as head of the Pakistani army on Wednesday, his spokesman Rashid Qureshi has told the BBC.
The spokesman told the BBC President Musharraf would then be sworn in for another term in office on Thursday.

President Musharraf has been under intense international and domestic pressure to give up his military role.

full article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7113432.stm
 
good news (in my view - i'm sure some will disagree).

Military seize Swat peak, shut radio

PESHAWAR: Security forces have captured a strategic mountain from militants in the Swat valley and shut down the radio station of Maulana Fazlullah.

According to foreign news agency, the provincial government said security forces had secured more towns and seized Najia Top, the highest peak in a district that has been a stronghold of cleric Maulana Fazlullah.

Residents and state television said Fazlullah's pirate radio station, from which he preaches holy war against the government, had also been shut down.

"The area between Kanju and Najia Top has been successfully secured," the provincial government said in a statement.

Government forces have stepped up their offensive in the area in the past few days, using artillery and helicopter gunships to drive the insurgents out of their mountain strongholds.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=32960
 
wilberhum said:
An administration official, Tariq Salim, blamed health ministry officials for “mishandling” the situation, adding “this would not have happened had they consulted us before starting the distribution directly to the women.”—AFP
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This is happening when the authorities are not discussing the things before to start such an action.


I am not very content about the radio station because in democracy everyone should be free to express his view, the people having the option to choose between alternatives.
 
Tania said:
This is happening when the authorities are not discussing the things before to start such an action.


I am not very content about the radio station because in democracy everyone should be free to express his view, the people having the option to choose between alternatives.
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What does Democracy have to do with Pakistan?

It seams that in Pakistan many have no problem with killing you for expressing a view that is not theres.

And Snake, I agree with you.
As corrupt as the government is, IMHO it is far better that having many militant groups set up there own little area governemnt by violance.
 
I can hardly believe it. I didn't think he would. Now what happenes if he looses the election?


Musharraf bids farewell to army
Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, has been given a farewell ceremony with army officers a day before he steps down as leader of the military.

He received a guard of honour at army headquarters in Rawalpindi on Tuesday.

Musharraf is stepping down to restore Pakistan to civilian rule, as demanded by his political rivals and Western allies, before parliamentary elections on January 8.

All main political parties have signed up to the elections.

However, Benazir Bhutto, the former prime ministers now in Pakistan after years in exile, said she might boycott the vote which is being orgnaised under emergency rule.
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/264573C5-5CED-45E4-89D7-894D6667B52B.htm
 
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Did I say
It seams that in Pakistan many have no problem with killing you for expressing a view that is not theres.
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Girls’ school building destroyed
PESHAWAR, Nov 26: A powerful bomb exploded in the Government Girls Primary School in the village of Sher Bahadur near here on Monday morning, destroying the main gate, windows, doors and boundary wall of the school.

The school administration is reported to have received anonymous letters a few days ago, with a threat if its students did not observe purdah, the building of the school would be destroyed.

Police officials told Dawn they had increased patrolling and tightened security, particularly in areas where terrorists and extremists had intensified their activities.
http://dawn.com/2007/11/27/top13.htm
 
wilberhum said:
I can hardly believe it. I didn't think he would. Now what happenes if he looses the election?


Musharraf bids farewell to army
Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, has been given a farewell ceremony with army officers a day before he steps down as leader of the military.

He received a guard of honour at army headquarters in Rawalpindi on Tuesday.

Musharraf is stepping down to restore Pakistan to civilian rule, as demanded by his political rivals and Western allies, before parliamentary elections on January 8.

All main political parties have signed up to the elections.

However, Benazir Bhutto, the former prime ministers now in Pakistan after years in exile, said she might boycott the vote which is being orgnaised under emergency rule.
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/264573C5-5CED-45E4-89D7-894D6667B52B.htm
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this is where i am confused. if you read the link i posted in #321, it looks like he will stay president and the elections will be for parliament and prime minister only.
everytime i think i understand something, it turns out that i don't. :(
 
snakelegs said:
this is where i am confused. if you read the link i posted in #321, it looks like he will stay president and the elections will be for parliament and prime minister only.
everytime i think i understand something, it turns out that i don't. :(
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Will I think most plans there change at least once every 24 hours. But now this one is real.
Musharraf gives up army uniform
Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf has handed over the command of the military in a ceremony in Rawalpindi.
Gen Musharraf passed a ceremonial baton to Gen Ashfaq Pervez Kayani at the army's headquarters.

In his farewell address, Gen Musharraf said the army was his "life" and he was proud to have been the commander of this "great force".
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7116290.stm

But then, what is there to stop him from taking it back?
 
no, i think he's really quitting the army. but apparently he is now president and the elections only have to do with parliament and prime minister.
actually, the line between "democratic" governments and military dictatorships in pakistan is not that sharp.
 
Is this Sexophobia or what?

Mannequins removed after threats
PESHAWAR, Nov 27: Owners of garment shops in Peshawar have either removed the mannequins used for displaying dresses or covered them with clothes after receiving threatening letters from militants.

A meeting of the shopkeepers’ association of Karimpura, held here on Tuesday to discuss the militants’ threat, decided to remove the mannequins altogether or fully cover them.

The meeting was informed that 10 militants visited the Shaheen Bazaar, a market for women, and asked the shopkeepers to remove mannequins which, they said, promoted obscenity. The letter sent by the militants warned them of dire consequences, if they did not carry out the instruction.
http://dawn.com/2007/11/28/top10.htm
 
snakelegs said:
no, i think he's really quitting the army. but apparently he is now president and the elections only have to do with parliament and prime minister.
actually, the line between "democratic" governments and military dictatorships in pakistan is not that sharp.
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Well in this case our tv announced correctly he is the president of Pakistan :statisfie.
But now i wonder why the population had 0 words on this :(
 
yes, apparently your TV was a lot less confused than i am! i was assuming all along that the position of president was included in the january elections. :muddlehea
he was apparently just sworn in a couple of hours ago.
 
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this thread is woefully lacking in pakistani participation. maybe because the issues are so emotional that arguing usually breaks out.
but i wish a pakistani would tell me
what are the powers of the president?
what are the powers of the prime minister?
which one is more powerful?
or is all this stuff up in the air, since, at the moment there is no constitution?
thanks in advance.
 
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this thread is woefully lacking in pakistani participation. maybe because the issues are so emotional that arguing usually breaks out.
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because this site and the whole web is overpopulated by pretenders who are intrested in destruction of pakistan and glorification of hindu agents masquerading as mullahs and students
but i wish a pakistani would tell me
what are the powers of the president?
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can dismiss governments for corruption
what are the powers of the prime minister?
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run the country
which one is more powerful?
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if prime minister does not sell out to foreign powers, can do anything
 
NoName55 said:
because this site and the whole web is overpopulated by pretenders who are intrested in destruction of pakistan and glorification of hindu agents masquerading as mullahs and students
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That is one of the worst cases of paranoia that I have ever seen. :?
 
NoName55 said:
because this site and the whole web is overpopulated by pretenders who are intrested in destruction of pakistan and glorification of hindu agents masquerading as mullahs and students
can dismiss governments for corruption
run the country
if prime minister does not sell out to foreign powers, can do anything
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thanks noname.
so the PM will be more powerful than president musharraf. personally, i would rather see musharraf in the more powerful seat than either of the 2 likely PM's. i think he has made mistakes, but is still better for pakistan than either bhutto or sharif - what do you think? something about recycling leaders who looted the country is just pathetic.
as for hindus masquerading as mullahs....well, that's beyond me. however, i must say that i found the targeting of the chinese by the mullah minions a bit strange. why would a religious movement want to drive a wedge between pakistan and china?
 
why would a religious movement want to drive a wedge between pakistan and china?
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to please their masters across the border and overseas too (who want to sabotage many if not all joint projects underway in pakistan)
 
NoName55 said:
to please their masters across the border and overseas too (who want to sabotage many if not all joint projects underway in pakistan)
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you may well be right - after all, i think china has been pakistan's only consistent ally.
do you have any preference between bhutto and sharif - or do they both have the same stench?
 
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