Niqâb during Hajj!

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Shaykh Isam Rajab said the following:

Regarding the face covering for women some scholars said that it's permissible to cover the face if there are men based on the incident of Aisha Radiallahu Anha where she said that she used to cover her face once men passed by.
I don't believe it's permissible for women to cover their faces as the Messenger Sallallahualaihi wasallam said: "The woman is not to put her niqab on during Ihram".
So here's a hadith from the Messenger Sallallahualaihi wasallam Vs. an action of Aisha Radiallahu Anha and we're commanded to follow the Messenger Sallallahualaihi wasallam.
Also, the famous story of Al Fadl Ibn Abbas Radiallahu Anhuma and the woman who asked the Messenger Sallallahualaihi wasallam. The Prophet Sallallahualaihi Wasallam would've told her cover your face instead of turing the face of Al Fadl several times!
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jazakAllah khair ive asked on islamtoday and ill root out the book to make sure i read right :-\

the thing quoted. well, im not sure i agree with that logic. i see it more as
Ayesha RA understanding of what Muhammed :arabic5: said Vs the understanding above.
and we know Ayesha RA is one of the greatest muftis of this ummah and very knowledgable in deen and understanding.
because Muhammed :arabic5: didnt reprimand the women from lowering their scarves over their faces which would have happened if face covering wasnt allowed

anyhow i gues theres difference of opinion. ill post the answer inshaAllah when i get
 
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got my answer :D

Dear questioner,

Al-Salam `Alaykum wa Rahmah Allah wa Barakatuh.



There is no problem at all if the cover, niqab, touches the womans face.



Fatwa Department Research Committee of IslamToday chaired by Sheikh `Abd al-Wahhab al-Turayri
 
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well hes from the site islamtoday.com headed by sheikh salman bin fahd al awda

i checked on islamqa it says the same thing.

and the book i was on about yh it is the book on hajj b the permanent commity of saudi arabia pls sheikh muhammed bin saleh al uthaimin..and it said the same thing
 
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amani said:
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got my answer :D

Dear questioner,

Al-Salam `Alaykum wa Rahmah Allah wa Barakatuh.



There is no problem at all if the cover, niqab, touches the womans face.



Fatwa Department Research Committee of IslamToday chaired by Sheikh `Abd al-Wahhab al-Turayri
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Isn’t that contradictory to the hadeeth narrated about women not being allowed to wear the niqaab during ihram.

Also like the Shaykh stated, it is a matter of following what the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said and the action of Aysha (May Allah be pleased with her).


And Allah Knows best

Rabeeqh firlee
 
Sis read Mawaddah's last post in this thread. I think that clears it up.
W'salaam
 
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YUSUFALI: O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

isnt this verse addressing wives and daughters of prophet only.

arent the wives of prophet have strict laws copare w ith other common muslim e.g.they cant marry after Prophet's death,punishment will be double than general etc.

what is the meaning of "they shouldnt be kno wn" and why the word molestation metioned here.
 
what I mean in the abov is the order in which the women addressed..
I ve heard the order of words too have importance.
 
women should cover their faces only when near men, and not with something that is tight. they should let their hijab cover their face or something
 
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Niqaab isn't allowed at the time of Hajj.

It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “A man stood up and said, ‘O Messenger of Allaah, what kind of clothes do you command us to wear during ihraam?’ The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Do not wear a shirt or pants or a turban or a burnous. If one of you does not have any sandals then let him wear the khuffayn (leather slippers) and cut them so that they come below the ankle. Do not wear anything that has been dyed with saffron or turmeric. Women in ihraam should not wear niqaab or gloves.”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1468; Muslim, 1177).
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The Prophet Peace Be Upon Him said so.

Khalaas.
 
Yes if the Prophet peace be upon him said then it is over, but we have to look at how the companions did what he said. It is narrated that the Prophet's wives may Allah be pleased with them used to cover their faces when a group of men passed by them during hajj.
 
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Yeh, they were the Prophet PBUHs wives...
 
Assalaamu alaykum

I know this thread is quiet old but it caught my attention since Im a niqaabi and I performed my Hajj last year. So I figured I should say something on this topic.

It is clear that during the time you are in Ihraam no cloth should touch ones face, hence the ordinary niqaab isnt permitted, b/cus it touches the face. However there's this special kind of 'cap niqaab' (or whatever you wanna call it) that you can wear which conceals your face without letting the cloth touch your face. Thats what I wore b/cus Im not used to showing off my face to men and I would of been totally uncomfortable with my face all revealed and nowadays its impossible to avoid men during Hajj days, they are everywhere...too many people. And besides...I hate to say it b/cus its sad to say, but there's even fitnah during Hajj days so you have to becareful and the best precaution for someone who doesnt want men to see her face and to avoid fitnah is by wearing something like this cap thing.

However, I used to take it off when Im in a corner or somewhere no man can see me and whilst praying salah since everyone's in salah at this time and no one's looking.

Wa Allahu Alam.

Sorry for bringing this thread up again, but I just had too!:X
 
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Assalaamu alaykum

It is clear that during the time you are in Ihraam no cloth should touch ones face, hence the ordinary niqaab isnt permitted, b/cus it touches the face. However there's this special kind of 'cap niqaab' (or whatever you wanna call it) that you can wear which conceals your face without letting the cloth touch your face. Thats what I wore b/cus Im not used to showing off my face to men and I would of been totally uncomfortable with my face all revealed and nowadays its impossible to avoid men during Hajj days, they are everywhere...too many people. And besides...I hate to say it b/cus its sad to say, but there's even fitnah during Hajj days so you have to becareful and the best precaution for someone who doesnt want men to see her face and to avoid fitnah is by wearing something like this cap thing.


Sorry for bringing this thread up again, but I just had too!:X
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theres a big dfference of opinion on this sister and no text actually saying nothing can touch a womans face, just as with gloves not being permitted, it doesnt say cloth cant touch the hands.
I saw a lot of women wearing that type of cap thing youre talking about and they had so much problems with it.
 
Amatullah_ said:
Assalaamu alaykum

I know this thread is quiet old but it caught my attention since Im a niqaabi and I performed my Hajj last year. So I figured I should say something on this topic.

It is clear that during the time you are in Ihraam no cloth should touch ones face, hence the ordinary niqaab isnt permitted, b/cus it touches the face. However there's this special kind of 'cap niqaab' (or whatever you wanna call it) that you can wear which conceals your face without letting the cloth touch your face. Thats what I wore b/cus Im not used to showing off my face to men and I would of been totally uncomfortable with my face all revealed and nowadays its impossible to avoid men during Hajj days, they are everywhere...too many people. And besides...I hate to say it b/cus its sad to say, but there's even fitnah during Hajj days so you have to becareful and the best precaution for someone who doesnt want men to see her face and to avoid fitnah is by wearing something like this cap thing.

However, I used to take it off when Im in a corner or somewhere no man can see me and whilst praying salah since everyone's in salah at this time and no one's looking.

Wa Allahu Alam.

Sorry for bringing this thread up again, but I just had too!:X
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I think inshallah you should do more reading on this topic sis. You can wear the niqaab during hajj. There difference here is that you can't wear a niqaab as a separate cloth covering your face, but you are allowed to cover your face with your hijab by making it a niqaab. The wives of the Prophet (saws) didn't do niqaab in the normal sense of the niqaab, but they did cover thier faces with their hijaabs when men would come near and then remove it again when they were alone.
 
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Umm Safiya said:
As-salâmu 'alaykum wa rahmatullâhi wa barakâtuh..

Why isn't it allowed to wear niqâb during hajj..? You would think it would be more recommended since so many people, men and women are mixed..

Insha Allâh someone can explain it to me, barak Allâhu fîkum..



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Eventhough you are not allowed to wear niqaab, you ARE allowed to cover your face from non mahram males with part of your headscarf. This is called, khimar.

so you see, covering the face is allowed, but not with a seperate piece of cloth, which is what the niqaab is.


Originally Posted by Amatullah_
Assalaamu alaykum

It is clear that during the time you are in Ihraam no cloth should touch ones face, hence the ordinary niqaab isnt permitted, b/cus it touches the face. However there's this special kind of 'cap niqaab' (or whatever you wanna call it) that you can wear which conceals your face without letting the cloth touch your face.
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Was the cap thing one cloth, which covered your face and hair??
 
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^^ No the cap thing is a separate thing. Its basically like a baseball cap peak with a niqab off that.
 
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