No Sharia law in Ontario, Canada

HeiGou said:
So all that the Canadians are doing is preventing Muslims from agreeing to binding legal arbitration beforehand in matters of personal law? Muslims can still go to Islamic courts if they want, but Muslims cannot be forced to go to one any more. Either way Canadian courts will not enforce their decisions.

Is that about the size of it?

Seems reasonable to me.
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Is that about the size of it?

That is about the size of it.

Seems reasonable to me.

It would be, if it wasn't so much, that with Muslims the religion expands into all facets of life. If you have a Muslim who will not abide by the Qur'anic laws, he could easily take advntage of one who does abide. Just for beginners, the inheritance laws would no longer be binding.

These laws help avoid confusion in family and civil matters in transactions among Muslims. It removes the interpretation of the laws from the individual and keeps it in the hands of a disinterested third party.
 
Geronimo said:
Then don't live in the UK. It's as easy as that
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Does that apply to Muslims who were born in the UK and whose parents and grand parents were also born there?
 
Geronimo said:
Then don't live in the UK. It's as easy as that
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Don't make ignorant comments. I'll live where i please, i'm quite happy here in UK thanks.

AvarAllahNoor asked why we prefer shariah law to human laws, and i simple replied divine law is better than man made law
Also you'll find Shariah law is not practised properly anywhere in the world. Insha'allah it will again soon.
 
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Whats the point of having 'Sharia Law' In non-muslim countries when muslim countries don't even implament the laws, do you expect non-muslims to actually agree with islamic law since they disbelieve.
 
Woodrow said:
Does that apply to Muslims who were born in the UK and whose parents and grand parents were also born there?
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yeah also what about revert white muslims who don't have any other mother country
 
Mohsin said:
Don't make ignorant comments. I'll live where i please, i'm quite happy here in UK thanks.

AvarAllahNoor asked why we prefer shariah law to human laws, and i simple replied divine law is better than man made law
Also you'll find Shariah law is not practised properly anywhere in the world. Insha'allah it will again soon.
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Sure you can live anywhere you want to but you still gotta live by their rules. If I come to live with you could I walk around naked?
 
Geronimo said:
If you can't live by their laws ? Yes
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There was no request made to be exempt from any laws of the Country or for Sharia laws to apply to non-Muslims.
 
Woodrow said:
There was no request made to be exempt from any laws of the Country or for Sharia laws to apply to non-Muslims.
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Why do you need seperate courts then? These issues can be settled with a contract whether it's marriage(prenuptial agreement) or inheritance(will). So where's the problem?
 
Geronimo said:
Why do you need seperate courts then? These issues can be settled with a contract whether it's marriage(prenuptial agreement) or inheritance(will). So where's the problem?
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A prenup could be written in violation of Sharia law. Under Sharia law a womans rights are verystrongly protected. An unknowing man and woman could easily write a prenup that did not include all of the protective clauses a woman has in regards to divorce.

Wills can be challanged. In case of a dispute there is no guarantee that a secular court would be aware of or enforce sharia law.
 
Geronimo said:
Sure you can live anywhere you want to but you still gotta live by their rules. If I come to live with you could I walk around naked?
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Excuse me where did i imply that i can't live by their rules. Ideally i would love it if the whole country was run by shariah law, it would be wonderful for the country- muslims and non-muslims alike.

However, if the goverment of the country wishes not to apply shariah law there is nothing i can do about it, and it becomes incumbent on me as a musolim to follow any law the goverment passes. So i have no problem, with following the laws of the country, and nor am i campaining to get shariah law in the UK. It needs to be applied in the muslim countries first. But if a goverment wishes to follow a few laws from shariah, then that is their own choice
 
Salaam,

the simple fact is that the west nor many muslim coutnry want to implement sharia due to ignoracne and fear.

ignorance can be remedied but fear is irrational.
Fear of losing ones freedom to rape and kill and steal.

can you actually imagine if thievery is charged with cutting of the hands as the last punishment?how many senators or congressman in the US will be with hands?

thus knowing our own ills,we fear punishment.the more a person rejects guidance it is for his own ILL sake and not for the good.

i am very sure that in the Us where a rape occurs every 3 minutes,it is but background noise,so commonplace that it is not even a crime anymore but just a misdemeanor.

would the west accept stoning for raping or for couples be stoned for infidelity?
NOPE,,why ,casue they like it that way.
 
Zulkiflim said:
Salaam,

the simple fact is that the west nor many muslim coutnry want to implement sharia due to ignoracne and fear.

ignorance can be remedied but fear is irrational.
Fear of losing ones freedom to rape and kill and steal.

can you actually imagine if thievery is charged with cutting of the hands as the last punishment?how many senators or congressman in the US will be with hands?

thus knowing our own ills,we fear punishment.the more a person rejects guidance it is for his own ILL sake and not for the good.

i am very sure that in the Us where a rape occurs every 3 minutes,it is but background noise,so commonplace that it is not even a crime anymore but just a misdemeanor.

would the west accept stoning for raping or for couples be stoned for infidelity?
NOPE,,why ,casue they like it that way.
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This would still happen under a Caliph and Sharia. If crime didn't happen under Sharia then why would they need judges and courts? Your comments are just ignorant and should be disregarded like the trash they are.
 
Salaam,

As with the Prophet time,he did not introduce sharia directly but only after the whole community or majority are muslims.

so inshallah sharia laws will be implemented if the eharts of muslim are trully filled with Islamic knowledge of shariah and the quran.

then and only then can the law be dispensed with understanding and truth.if not it will be abused.

So wait for it,when a majority is muslim and the majority votes for shaira then it shall be.
As russia and Australia has said or even EU in 50 year the majority will be muslims...
 
Geronimo said:
This would still happen under a Caliph and Sharia. If crime didn't happen under Sharia then why would they need judges and courts? Your comments are just ignorant and should be disregarded like the trash they are.
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Salaam,

as i expect you to say..

As i said,fear to face justice.
Fear to face the full accountability of your actions.

If you rape you are stoned to death,it is an abbhorent in your mind for it is barbaric,you fear that punishment and fear the accountability.
thus that fear if so ingrained will lead you not to harm another.

Sharia is for mediation and for ruling fro all amtter from life to death,for the ills and the good you do it is repaid in the same coin.

Accountability is what the west you fear.
 
Geronimo said:
This would still happen under a Caliph and Sharia. If crime didn't happen under Sharia then why would they need judges and courts? Your comments are just ignorant and should be disregarded like the trash they are.
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Crimes do occur even under the Sharia.

The sharia is perfect,we as humans are not.The law is perfect,the practisioners are not.

Wa'salaam.

ps i don't think sharia law can be applied in the west today,tommorrow....or ever.

Heck,its not even applied in so called islamic countries,so forget about the west.

pps,if anybody is going to say "the taliban practise..." i swear whenever im in your country,im going to hunt you down and smack you up with my shoes..
 

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