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Quotations From Famous Historians Of Science

Arnold and Guillaume in "Lagacy of Islam" on Islamic science and medicine

"Looking back we may say that Islamic medicine and science reflected the light of the Hellenic sun, when its day had fled, and that they shone like a moon, illuminating the darkest night of the European middle Ages; that some bright stars lent their own light, and that moon and stars alike faded at the dawn of a new day - the Renaissance. Since they had their share in the direction and introduction of that great movement, it may reasonably be claimed that they are with us yet."



References:

1. George Sarton, "Introduction to the History of Science, Vol. I-IV," Carnegie Institute of Washington, Baltimore, 1927-31; Williams and Wilkins, Baltimore, 1950-53.
2. Robert Briffault, "The Making of Humanity," London, 1938.
3. T. Arnold and A. Guillaume, "The Legacy of Islam," Oxford University Press, 1931.
4. E. Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of Roman Empire," London, 1900.

Additional quotations from above sources are contained in the Muslim History book: http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/muslimhistory570.htm
 
Bismillah

Peace,

I kind of agree with the concept about "good" and "bad" in religions. You are either for or against a certain religion or creed there is no halfstepping. The morals that you applied to the Christian is also the same for the Muslim. We do not like to hold grudges, nor be ill-treated by others.
 
[MOUSE]this is one of the most wonderful threads i have ever read masha'allah truth soldiers of islam with the pen and not sword (i have to write pen)[/MOUSE]
 
~salaam~

*"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated."*
Author :
De Lacy O'Leary
Book Reference :
ISLAM AT THE CROSSROADS, London, 1923, p. 8

my personal favourite,:happy:
Mashallah keep up the good work.
 
What they say about Islam


…Quite interesting I believe… :okay:

“…History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.”

De Lacy O’Leary, ISLAM AT THE CROSSROADS, London, 1923, p.8.


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“The doctrine of brotherhood of Islam extends to all human beings, no matter what colour race or creed. Islam is the only religion which has been able to realise this doctrine in practice. Muslims wherever on the world they are, will recognise each other as brothers.”

R. L. Mellema, Holland, Anthropologist, writer and scholar.


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“The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one if the outstanding achievements of Islam, and in the contemporary world there is, as it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue.”

A. J. Toynbee, CIVILISATION ON TRIAL, New York, 1948, p.205.

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“How, for instance, can any other appeal stand against that of the Muslim who, in approaching the pagan, says to him, however obscure or degraded he may be “Embrace the faith, and you are at once equal and a brother.’ Islam knows no colour line.”

S. S. Leeder, VEILED MYSTERIES OF EGYPT


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“It (Islam) replaced monkishness by manliness. It gives hope to the slave, brotherhood to mankind, and recognition of the fundamental facts of human nature.”

Canon Taylor, Quoted by Arnoud in THE PREACHING OF ISLAM, pp. 71-72


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Re: What they say about Islam

Greetings,

Who are the people quoted above, and why should we believe what they say?

Peace
 
they're peepz just like you and I who can look at islam and not see all the negatives that most people come up with. you dont have to believe it...we're not makin you, it's called freedom of expression, if you agree fair enough, if not...entirely up to you :) peace
 
Re: What they say about Islam

czgibson said:
Greetings,

Who are the people quoted above, and why should we believe what they say?

Peace
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Those who dont believe normally do so because they know something to disprove the evidence put forth. Im guessing its same with you? :)
 
Re: What they say about Islam

Greetings,
IbnAbdulHakim said:
Those who dont believe normally do so because they know something to disprove the evidence put forth. Im guessing its same with you? :)
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Proof has nothing to do with belief, although many people on this forum like to think that it does. Proof is related to knowledge - if you have solid proof of something, you don't just believe it; you know it.

I was simply asking who the quoted people were and why we should believe them. At the moment, I have no positive reason to believe what they've said, and no reason not to - I don't know who the people are.

Peace
 
you dont need to personally know a wise person to realise that what they said is wise :) peace out!
 
here are some scientists taking about the miracles in Quran and Sunna and this files are all videos

(HAVE FUN :) )

note: that after clicking the links you will have to wait for a minute or so untill it works.

Prof. Keith L. Moore - Comment 1 watch the video

Prof. Keith L. Moore - Comment 2 watch the video

Prof. Alfred Kroner - Comment 1 watch the video

Prof. Alfred Kroner - Comment 1 watch the video

Prof. T. V. N. Persaud watch the video

Prof. Joe Leigh Simpson watch the video

Prof. E. Marshall Johnson - Comment 1 watch the video

Prof. E. Marshall Johnson - Comment 2 watch the video

Prof. William W. Hey watch the video

Prof. Gerald G. Goeringer watch the video

Prof. Yoshihide Kozai watch the video

Prof. Tejatat Tejasen watch the video


salam
 
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Christians, what do you make of these quotes on Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)?

I believe the writers are Christians themselves. Here it goes:-

The greatest crime, the greatest 'sin' of Mohammad in the eyes of the Christian West is that he did not allow himself to be slaughtered, to be 'crucified' by his enemies. He only defended himself, his family and his followers; and finally vanquished his enemies. Mohammad's success is the Christians' gall of disappointment: He did not believe in any vicarious sacrifices for the sins of others. -- [Edward Gibbon]

The lies that we (Christians) have heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only. -- [Thomas Carlyle]

Of all the world's greatest men none has been so much maligned as Muhammad. It is easy to see how this has come about. For centuries Islam was the great enemy of Christendom, for Christendom was in direct contact with no other organized states comparable in power to the Muslims. -- [William Montgomery Watt]

Ever since the Crusades, people in the west have seen the prophet Muhammad as a sinister figure. During the 12th century, Christians were fighting brutal holy wars against Muslims, even though Jesus had told his followers to love their enemies, not to exterminate them. The scholar monks of Europe stigmatised Muhammad as a cruel warlord who established the false religion of Islam by the sword. They also, with ill-concealed envy, berated him as a lecher and sexual pervert at a time when the popes were attempting to impose celibacy on the reluctant clergy. Our Islamophobia became entwined with our chronic anti-Semitism; Jews and Muslims, the victims of the crusaders, became the shadow self of Europe, the enemies of decent civilisation and the opposite of "us". -- [Karen Armstrong]
 
“I believe
There are no real gods or god
There are only people that believe god or gods are real”.
Me
 
"Hence it comes about that all armed Prophets have been victorious, and all unarmed Prophets have been destroyed."

-Niccolo Machiavelli, Italian Political Analyst

Liberal "Islam is religion of peace" muslims take notes.
 
CuriousonTruth said:
"Hence it comes about that all armed Prophets have been victorious, and all unarmed Prophets have been destroyed."

-Niccolo Machiavelli, Italian Political Analyst

Liberal "Islam is religion of peace" muslims take notes.
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Islam is just a religion like any other.
It can be interpreted to entice people to commit both acts of evil and acts of charity.
You only have to look st the world to see this.
 
chalks75 said:
Islam is just a religion like any other.
It can be interpreted to entice people to commit both acts of evil and acts of charity.
You only have to look st the world to see this.
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My point is if you ignore the political correctness and the constant guilt tripping by atheists (religions are violent....murgh) you will realize that any ideology or religion needs to be authoritarian and needs in part to impose its rules to keep it relevant in society (in contrast to what secular/liberals claim).

Every ideology needs a point where its followers say okay this is our red line, we will spread and practice these values in our society

Western Ideology and culture is so dominant because the West imposes it and makes sure any resistant countries are dealt with, ex. French backed coup in Algeria to remove religious nationalist FIS that promised to remove French culture from Algeria, EU sanctions on Uganda for rejecting homosexuality.

It's this contradicting duality of Europeans - they will call upon their adversaries to introduce harmful ideas and harmful western cultures to their society, but will never negotiate on their own culture or traditions, this is the source of Europe's success.

Point is, liberal muslims who call to open places of worship to other religions, who allow other religions to preach, who allow other cultures to come into their culture, are committing suicide of their own religion.
 
chalks75 said:
Islam is just a religion like any other.
It can be interpreted to entice people to commit both acts of evil and acts of charity.
You only have to look st the world to see this.
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Nah bro, Islam don't entice any evil action at all. Are you going to say Christianity entices the lynching of blacks by Kkk?
 

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