O ummah, for how much longer?

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The hadith says " Jews"
not some jews or this jews, or man or those who live here...

so you must understand all jews in this period

sister, this all started when I asked Allah to curse the zionists wrongdoers, but you told me not to forget all the jews.

No, I will not do that.

You are welcome to ask Allah to curse all the jews.

But remember, if there is only, just one, innocent jew in this world, the curse will come back to you.
 
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No one who doesn't accept Islam, Allah SWT and El Rassoul SAWS
will go to paradis !!!

Only if they have heard the true message of Islam.

If there is one jew in this world who have never heard the true message of Islam, but they never associate God with any partner and they follow what they believe is their true scripture, then you are one who have wrongly accused them to hell.

Please be careful with what you say.

It's the first time of my live I hear some jews will go to paradis, until they convert and accept Islam.

Yes, there will be some jews in paradise.
Shocking? Not if you believe in the words of Allah (Al Qur'an)

We don't know if we'll go to paradise too but we have more chance than jews.


Only if we die as muslim Insha Allah.
 
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Their is also a hadith that says out of every 1000 person 999 will go to hell. Narrated in Bukhari and Muslim: Allah will say, Send forth those who are destined for hell? Adam (pbuh) will say.Who are those? ...Allah will say Out of every thousand, 999 go to hell and 1 to paradise". - Bukhari 6:60:265

You copy and paste qur'an ayats and hadith and not even understanding the context.

the hadith above was to show that majority of those who will go to hell and paradise will be from gog and magog (juj and majuj). I really cannot see how the hadith is related to our discussion. Are you saying that all current non-muslims are gog and magog? But even then, they are not 999 out of 1000.

Keep learning, but in the meantime, guard your mouth so that you don't wrongly accurse innocents.
 
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[85] And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will NEVER be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. [86] How shall Allâh guide a people who disbelieved after their belief and after they bore witness that the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) is true and after clear proofs had come unto them? And Allâh guides not the people who are Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrongdoers). [87] They are those whose recompense is that on them (rests) the Curse of Allâh, of the angels, and of all mankind. [88] They will abide therein (Hell). Neither will their torment be lightened, nor will it be delayed or postponed (for a while). (Qur’an 3:85-88)

You need to read the above verses slowly and carefully again:
The verse 85 is not separated from 86. Those two verses are d amning against people who left Islam (murtad) to seek another religion.
And the next verse (87) is for zalimun.

Now please tell me that you also consider a jew, who never associate any partner to God (swt) and is not a wrongdoer and never heard the true message of Islam, is a zalimun?

I'll be careful with what I say in case they come back to me.
 
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sister, this all started when I asked Allah to curse the zionists wrongdoers, but you told me not to forget all the jews.

No, I will not do that.

You are welcome to ask Allah to curse all the jews.

But remember, if there is only, just one, innocent jew in this world, the curse will come back to you.

First I didn' t say all jews but jewish diaspora means the " Elite " with the power of decision.

You mean Innocent jew or other religion who spits on El Rassoul SAW, Jesus AS, Mary RA,... on Sahaba RA,... ?

I don't speak about kids, mental patient,... but everyone who have a conscience and have receive the Message " El Risala"
 
Salam Alikum


Only if they have heard the true message of Islam.

And who haven't heard the true message of Islam in our century ?
Maybe
pygmies living in the Amazon or the North Koreans or Eskimos but certainly not jews with all the media we have on earth.
If there is one jew in this world who have never heard the true message of Islam, but they never associate God with any partner and they follow what they believe is their true scripture, then you are one who have wrongly accused them to hell.

Of course, I agree.

Please be careful with what you say.

You are right but you too, no one khows who will go to hell or paradise.

Yes, there will be some jews in paradise.
Shocking? Not if you believe in the words of Allah

Repetition

Only if we die as muslim Insha Allah.

Not jews ?
 
May Allah guide ALL PEOPLE to al deenul-haaq.!
May allah give a tormenting punishment to the Jews who are behind ANY sort of torture to A SINGLE muslim.
And Anyone who wrongs them. No Ones deserves what their going through.
May Allah give fill their hearts with imaan to perserve. And Inshallah lets not forget our dear brothers and sisters around the world.
 
may Allah guide all people - including jews, to the truth.
for there are yet many who believe in Allah from what their parents have taught them, and are considering the message which came afterwards.

 
Bismellah Tawakkalna ala Allah

Assalaamu Alikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakaatuh

in the same book of Sahih Al Bukhari which you have mentioned a hadeeth from it above about Jews there is another hadeeths tells us the Akhlaaq of Rassol Allah salla Allahu alyhi wa sallam and that Allah had sent him as a mercy for the whole world....

Allah says:"And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds. (107)" Surat Al Anbiyaa

in the following hadeeth I will post ; those people whom Rasool Allah made Duaa for are not muslims honey but from the mushrikeeen:

Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)' of Sahih Bukhari , hadeeth number 188:

Narrated Abu Huraira: Tufail bin 'Amr Ad-Dausi and his companions came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah's Apostle! The people of the tribe of Daus disobeyed and refused to follow you; so invoke Allah against them." The people said, "The tribe of Daus is ruined." The Prophet said, "O Allah! Give guidance to the people of Daus, and let them embrace Islam."

my sweetheart if we would only curse and hate then the love of hidayah for others won`t fill our hearts but will be replaced with those dark feelings which will make us a source of hatred and won`t be able to guide others after Allah to the Deen of Allah...

Allah says:"Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. (8)" Surat Al Mumtahanah

how to invite someone to the way of guidance while despising him/her?

how to curse him/her and make duaa against him/her or say we will kill ya all someday then say oh our deen is the deen of mercy and peace; would ya like to convert?

you are the worshipper of stones , trees, prophets , angels...etc, Allah hates ya O disbelievers and He will make ya all the food of hellfire, do you know that Allah Is The Most Merciful to His slaves?

oh really, if I were in their places I would see ya as someone has some mental disorder and run with my life, I`ll believe not someone curses me , insults me , wana kill me and see himself better than me...and I`ll be like a sponge which will only absorb the wrong concepts and lies about that religion and won`t believe anythng good about it but will laugh each time ...

in saheeh Muslim the book of Al Jihaad wa Assiyar:

It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Masa that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) deputed any of his Companions on a mission, he would say: Give tidings (to the people) ; do not create (in their minds) aversion (towards religion) ; show them leniency and do not be hard upon them.

It has also been narrated by Sa'd b. Abu Burda through his father through his grandfather that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent him and Mu'adh (on a mission) to the Yemen, and said (by way of advising them): Show leniency (to the people) ; don't be hard upon them; give them glad tidings (of Divine favours in this world and the Hereafter) ; and do not create aversion. Work in collaboration and don't be divided.

Allah says:"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided. (125)" Surat Annahil

and also we should never say or assure the fire of hell for anyone, this is in Allah`s Hand only ;not in ours the slaves and servants ...

May Allah guide the whole world to Him The Exalted Ameeeen
 
and also , if you would read in Sunnah and Seerah then you will see how Rasool Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) used to treat Jewish people and also how much generous he was with them and also the amazing treatments of Sahabah to Jews (May Allah be pleased with them all)...

There you will find the guidance of Muhammad (salla Allahu Alyhi wa sallam) and the path of those whom were his students (May Allah be pleased with them) ...
 


Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (QS. 2:62)

[1] Those who disbelieve from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and among Pagans, were not going to leave (their disbelief) until there came to them clear evidence.
[2] A Messenger (Muhammad) from Allâh, reciting (the Qur'ân) purified pages.
[3] Containing correct and straight laws from Allâh.
[4] And the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) differed not until after there came to them clear evidence. (i.e. Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and whatever was revealed to him).
[5] And they were commanded not, but that they should worship Allâh, and worship none but Him Alone (abstaining from ascribing partners to Him), and perform Prayers and give Charity: and that is the right religion.
[6] Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islâm, the Qur'ân and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)) from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and pagans will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.
[7] Verily, those who believe [in the Oneness of Allâh, and in His Messenger Muhammad (pbuh)) including all obligations ordered by Islâm] and do righteous good deeds, they are the best of creatures.
[8] Their reward with their Lord is Eden Paradise (Gardens of Eternity), underneath which rivers flow, they will abide therein forever, Allâh Well-Pleased with them, and they with Him. That is for him who fears his Lord.
(QS. 98)

"By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, there is no-one of this Ummah, Jew or Christian, who hears of me then dies without believing in that with which I have been sent, but he will be one of the people of Hell." (Sahih Muslim, 153).


So, please tell me directly that you believe that ALL jews now will be going to hell?

but how? their scriptures has been changed. Quran is the last revelation and if they dont follow the last revelation and the last Prophet (pbuh) how can they enter paradise?
 
Insha Allah I pray I get to see the day that Palestine is back.
Insha Allah one day sooner than later, the children of Palestine can live as children. Insha Allah one day, the mothers of Palestine do not have to shed any more tears over the torment from these animals.
 
and this one got my blood boiling

The Israelis show their soldiers footage of Israeli children dying thanks to Palestinian rockets and bombs and that boils their blood. Remember, we are not the only ones with blood that can boil. Palestinians need to understand that either you are the victim or the aggressor. If you choose to be someone in between these two, then you are not helping your cause and you are making it difficult for the world to openly support your cause. If you want to be seen as the victim, then stop the rockets and attacks. Give the world NOTHING to point back at you. And if you think, you can not sit silent, the go all out. Finish it once and for all. Stop with this random attacks which give you a bad name.
 

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