Obama his secret plan for our future

[Hamza Asadullah]

Re: Stop with the Conspiracy Theories! Facts only!

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Bismillā hir Rahmā nir Rahīm
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful​

اشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَ اَشْهَدُ اَنَّ مُحَمَّدً اعَبْدُه وَ رسوله

Ašh hadu al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu, wa ašh hadu anna Muhammadun ‘abduhu wa rasūluhu
I bear witness that none is worthy of worship but Allah, the One alone, without partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger


As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

There is one thing the appears consistent among Muslims from developing countries is that they are open to the conspiracy theories even when faced with facts. The so-called developed countries laugh at people who feverishly promoted unfounded and far-fetched claims of secret conspiracies.

My dear Muslims please stick with the facts.

The conspiracy theories without direct evidence is unsophisticated.

The conspiracy theory profiteers sell books and now they have a new audience Muslims.

Please stop with the conspiracy theories.

It is only classed as a conspiracy because they want us to believe it is. Is everything that is shown on the News fact? Don't you know who controls the media?

If you think that everything in this world is transparent and straight forward then you are truly living in a naive narrow minded world and need to seriously wake up before its too late.

Open your eyes and look at both sides. Don't just blindly take whatever the media feed you like a robot. You have been given a brain so use it and look into this properly for yourself.

:wa:

 

[CosmicPathos]

Re: Stop with the Conspiracy Theories! Facts only!

It is only classed as a conspiracy because they want us to believe it is. Is everything that is shown on the News fact? Don't you know who controls the media?

If you think that everything in this world is transparent and straight forward then you are truly living in a naive narrow minded world and need to seriously wake up before its too late.

Open your eyes and look at both sides. Don't just blindly take whatever the media feed you like a robot. You have been given a brain so use it and look into this properly for yourself.

:wa:

precisely. @ Sabr: Even our sensory systems delude us all the time (try this: put a thin latex glove on your hand then hold it under running water. You will be convinced that the glove is leaking water, even when it is not!)... and you want to believe in what other humans tell you with their imperfect cognitive and motor skills. ...

 

[Snowflake]

Do you just believe 9/11 is a set-up? Or also for example:
- 7 July 2005 - London bombings
- 26 November 2008 - Mumbai, India
- September 2004 - Beslan school hostage crisis
- 6 August 2003 Marriot Hotel Complex in Jakarta
- 12 October 2002 Bali bombing
- 17 November 1997 Luxor attacks

I mean, all these are (like 9/11) attributed to Muslim extremist groups. Are they also a set up like 9/11? Also, do you believe Bin Laden exists? That his 'declaration of war' fatwa against the US from August 1996 is real for example?

And you don't? It's up to you if you want to act like a parrot and repeat what the media tells you. Personally I hope you do yourself a favour and see what your own are saying about it.

Photos recently released seem to verify Lait’s statement that the explosion came from under the floorboards of the train.

Victims and their families, like the 9/11 victim’s families in the US are not pleased with the inconsistencies and basic mistakes in the official account and their explanation


http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/Jul05/250705doctored.html

A former British intelligence agent, jailed in 2002 for linking the British government with paying an Islamic militant group $160,000 in a failed assassination attempt on Colonel Mu'ammar al-Qadhafi of Libya, said this week the recent London bombings have all the earmarks of an inside job just like 9/11.
http://www.rense.com/general67/says.htm

More Brits Think Government Behind 7/7 London Bombings

http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.co...s-think-government-behind-7-7-london-bombings

 

[sabr*]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Bismillā hir Rahmā nir Rahīm
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful​

اشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَ اَشْهَدُ اَنَّ مُحَمَّدً اعَبْدُه وَ رسوله

Ašh hadu al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu, wa ašh hadu anna Muhammadun ‘abduhu wa rasūluhu
I bear witness that none is worthy of worship but Allah, the One alone, without partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger


As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Dear Muslims if you actually thought that someone who proclaimed that they are Christian and denounces that they are Muslim and their father was Muslim and mother agnostic then you are naive. Obama is no different then any other United States President. The mechanics of the United States government and the instruments that make it work will not allow governing based on God laws. Why are you so surprised.

There are many Muslims that enjoy laws other than Shariah and wouldn't really want to live in a country based on Shariah. If you do why are you in countries opposed to Shariah. The earth is spacious why don't you move to countries dominated by those who want to impose the Shariah?

The Taliban and the Pushtu's are located in the mountainous areas of Pakistan and Waziristan and desire to implement their understanding of the Shariah that includes denying the rights of women that Allah has provided them. (Education, etc) The enemies of Islam couldn't wait to show hidden video footage of the Taliban executing women without witnesses in the soccer stadium. I know don't believe what I viewed it was all doctored to make you believe it was occurring.

Youtube the killings of women by the Taliban. You can't believe that because it is against people claiming to be Muslim.

It is despicable how people attempt to justify acts not based on Islam but culture.

The conspiracy theorist actually think that You-tube is a media for facts. Now that changes my view. Lets view homemade You-tube videos. It was on You-tube it has to be factual. Discussion finished.
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Surah Ma'idah 5:8

O ye who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.

 

[sur]

didn't find any other place to post these;-

Infowars guy heckles Bush senior
& then secret agency pays him a visit....

 

[Hamza Asadullah]

The conspiracy theorist actually think that You-tube is a media for facts. Now that changes my view. Lets view homemade You-tube videos. It was on You-tube it has to be factual. Discussion finished.

The videos were not made by youtube they were taken from media sources just like what you see on the news is taken from media sources. Do you mean to say that just because it is broadcast on the Telvision that it makes it any more reliable?

Are you telling me the news is not bias towards the western perspective? It was very correct was'nt it when it predicted that Saddam would be able to launch weapons on mass destruction within 40 minutes and today you have evidance that this was a media ploy to establish an excuse to attack Iraq in the first place.

Does it mean that mainstream media is correct and any source apart from main stream media is full of conspiracies?

Just becauase they call it conspiracies does it mean that it is?

The enquiries that are going on in the UK have already uncovered a plot by Blair and Bush a year before where they sent letters to each other talking about supporting each other on attacking Iraq. Majority of people in this world including most politicians agree that this is an illegal war yet you have'nt even once mentioned that over a million innocent people have been killed by the occupying forces yet you have the nerve t mention what Taliban do to women. What about the lives of your brothers and sisters?

The discussion is finished for you because you have nothing relevant to say on the matter expect that you are consistantly sticking up for western atrocities yet not once have you mentioned the fact that your millions of your Muslims brothers and sisters have been massacred and slaughtered and are being killed left right and centre every single day even as we speak.

What about the massive support of the media of Israel and the atrocities that the Jews have caused to our Palestianian brothers and sisters? You agree with all of their views and biased coverage? You think It is correct how they portray Israel towards Palestine?

Strangley all you have posted about is sticking up for western atrocities and trying to debunk what you call 'consipiracy theories' and apparently without even knowing Bangully you stuck up for his erroneous and heretical views in a thread started about by a brother on here on the banning of Banguly where strangley you came out to support him 'apparentely' without even knowing him. Very strange how you did this as one of your first posts in this forum.

I call on others to look at this users posts to see what im talking about as something does'nt make sense about him. So far 13 out of 14 of his posts are supporting western media and attacking Muslims about being suicide bombers and 'so called atrocities caused by Muslims across the world' Why has he not once mentioned the atrocities of America on Muslims?

There is something not quite right about this guy. His posts are not what a normal Muslim would post attacking his own Muslims calling them suicide bombers and that scholars stick up for suicide bombers as well as constantly sticking up for western media.

 

[sabr*]

No discussions on conspiracy theories!

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سم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Bismillā hir Rahmā nir Rahīm
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful​

اشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَ اَشْهَدُ اَنَّ مُحَمَّدً اعَبْدُه وَ رسوله

Ašh hadu al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu, wa ašh hadu anna Muhammadun ‘abduhu wa rasūluhu
I bear witness that none is worthy of worship but Allah, the One alone, without partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger


As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

POSTED BY MODERATORS OF THE ISLAMIC BOARD:

Posting in the World Affairs Section
Ansar Al-'Adl Posting in the World Affairs Section - 05-16-2006

*No discussions on conspiracy theories will be allowed. Such conjecture benefits no one.

My original post only reiterated what the rules for posting in the World Affairs Section stated.

 

[Muezzin]

Since conspiracy threads are not allowed in this forum, and since all discussion of the conspiracies raised seems to have been exhausted anyway, I have decided to close this thread.