Obsessive Compulsive Behaviour

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Anwarica said:
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Addiction & OCD .. totally different stories :)

DIAGNOSTIC CRITERIA FOR OBSESSIVE-COMPULSIVE DISORDER
Full DSM-IV for OCD
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DSM-IV for addiction

As you notice, anyone can be a addicted to cigarettes because of the physiological symptoms related to withdrawal, and the increased intake by time.

OCD can be a bad thing when it's about cleanliness, but it can be a good thing about order (that patient will be a great librarian who classifies books, everything is in order :D ) .. scientists' personality are a bit related to OCD for the repetitive calculations and this whole numerical thinking :)
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Ya...you have all from the websites..no issue..what does matter is our opinions that we gather from the facts. Its a broad issue anyway. It could lead to this and that.....
 
I_notGenerous said:
Ya...you have all from the websites..no issue..what does matter is our opinions that we gather from the facts. Its a broad issue anyway. It could lead to this and that.....
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Well, medicine - as a science - isn't based on opinions or individual experiences, unless we're talking about medicine in the old dark ages :)
The fact is, when smoking was first presented to this world, people thought it's a habit, but since the last century and there's no doubt it's an addiction & it's the predisposing factor for any disease you can imagine.
I don't want to turn this post into a lecture, just clarifying the main points. :)

P.S. the information provided here can be obtain from any psychiatry textbook & the DSM-IV criteria is the same in websites and books, it's not the best criteria, but it does really help diagnose.
 
Anwarica said:
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Well, medicine - as a science - isn't based on opinions or individual experiences, unless we're talking about medicine in the old dark ages :)
The fact is, when smoking was first presented to this world, people thought it's a habit, but since the last century and there's no doubt it's an addiction & it's the predisposing factor for any disease you can imagine.
I don't want to turn this post into a lecture, just clarifying the main points. :)

P.S. the information provided here can be obtain from any psychiatry textbook & the DSM-IV criteria is the same in websites and books, it's not the best criteria, but it does really help diagnose.
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Thank you..I understand that very well..OCD is OCD and smoking is smoking...two different aspects. Medicine and Science are based on facts research, and findings as evidence.

From individual experiences patients have their own opinions, it depends on individual when taking care of their well being. Prevention is still better than cure.its better to stop before it leads to something that is unknown..

But again, its still a broad issue..Scientists collects data from the patients experiences, symptoms, objective data...etc...thank you.:happy:
 
snakelegs said:
don't know what point you're trying to make re: smoking.
smoking is a drug addiction, not OCD.
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yeah thats what i was thinking


everyone jokes at me for having OCD because im really obsessed with cleanliness and the order of things.. everything has to be in line with everything... i dont know why but if it isnt then i'll get really agitated and feel uneasy..
for example, if somethings restricting me from putting things in a neat order, ill get a tingling sensation at the back-bottom of my neck, kinda like when ur panicking about something/anxious
And when it comes to cleanliness, ill get the tingling feeling in my fingers, like i need to wash them really thouroughly again and again...
or i need to clean a particular thing e.g. kitchen work surface and i wont be satisfied until ive been scrubbing for ages even if its already clean


but im not ALWAYS like that.(espoecially with the neat order of things) its like strange phases i go through..

but one thing about the order thing is, i also have to do things in a certain order e.g. putting things away, or putting make up on...all of it has to be done in a pattern even though there wouldnt be any detriment in changing the order. and this is always with me, never in phases.

ive never really written all this down before, or discussed it with anyone...

please dont tell me im a psycho!
 
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I_notGenerous said:
Compulsion!!!

Compulsion are repetitive, ritualized behaviours that the person feels driven to perform to alleviate the anxiety of the obsessions. The obsessive and compulsive rituals can occupy many hours of each day.eg...smoking ..like
Oga, cannabis, environmental stresses...:D
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Compulsion!!!

Compulsion are repetitive, ritualized behaviours that the person feels driven to perform to alleviate the anxiety of the obsessions. The obsessive and compulsive rituals can occupy many hours of each day.eg...smoking ..like
Oga, cannabis, environmental stresses..

Compulsion!!!

Compulsion are repetitive, ritualized behaviours that the person feels driven to perform to alleviate the anxiety of the obsessions. The obsessive and compulsive rituals can occupy many hours of each day.eg...smoking ..like
Oga, cannabis, environmental stresses..

Compulsion!!!

Compulsion are repetitive, ritualized behaviours that the person feels driven to perform to alleviate the anxiety of the obsessions. The obsessive and compulsive rituals can occupy many hours of each day.eg...smoking ..like
Oga, cannabis, environmental stresses..

Compulsion!!!

Compulsion are repetitive, ritualized behaviours that the person feels driven to perform to alleviate the anxiety of the obsessions. The obsessive and compulsive rituals can occupy many hours of each day.eg...smoking ..like
Oga, cannabis, environmental stresses..

Compulsion!!!

Compulsion are repetitive, ritualized behaviours that the person feels driven to perform to alleviate the anxiety of the obsessions. The obsessive and compulsive rituals can occupy many hours of each day.eg...smoking ..like
Oga, cannabis, environmental stresses..

;)
 
Ummah said:
yeah thats what i was thinking


everyone jokes at me for having OCD because im really obsessed with cleanliness and the order of things.. everything has to be in line with everything... i dont know why but if it isnt then i'll get really agitated and feel uneasy..
for example, if somethings restricting me from putting things in a neat order, ill get a tingling sensation at the back-bottom of my neck, kinda like when ur panicking about something/anxious
And when it comes to cleanliness, ill get the tingling feeling in my fingers, like i need to wash them really thouroughly again and again...
or i need to clean a particular thing e.g. kitchen work surface and i wont be satisfied until ive been scrubbing for ages even if its already clean


but im not ALWAYS like that.(espoecially with the neat order of things) its like strange phases i go through..

but one thing about the order thing is, i also have to do things in a certain order e.g. putting things away, or putting make up on...all of it has to be done in a pattern even though there wouldnt be any detriment in changing the order. and this is always with me, never in phases.

ive never really written all this down before, or discussed it with anyone...

please dont tell me im a psycho!
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with a lot of psychological labels, i am not sure who gets to decide where the line is. as anwarica pointed out:
OCD can be a bad thing when it's about cleanliness, but it can be a good thing about order (that patient will be a great librarian who classifies books, everything is in order ) .. scientists' personality are a bit related to OCD for the repetitive calculations and this whole numerical thinking
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i guess, in the end, it is a matter of degree. when it starts to run your life, you have a problem.
 
I_notGenerous said:
Thank you for confirming that OCD is a habit, so does smoking...but drugs are classified as: alcohol, stimulants, depressants, narcotics, hallucinogenic, inhalants, cannabis etc...

So.. you are right for that matter and smoking depends on individuals...sometimes it could be an anti depressants, stimulants or inhalants is also could be an environmental issue..when a non smoker could inhaled nicotine and a hazard for someone...and any other individual...when exposed.:smile:
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nicotene is a stimulant and is indeed a drug.
smoking, at least for most smokers, is a drug addiction, not a habit. there are some (rare) people who are in the habit of having a cigarette on a rare special occaision, who do not become addicted, but most smokers are addicts.
OCD as i understand it (and i don't know much about it) is not an addiction and is much more than a habit.
 
Ummah said:
yeah thats what i was thinking


everyone jokes at me for having OCD because im really obsessed with cleanliness and the order of things.. everything has to be in line with everything... i dont know why but if it isnt then i'll get really agitated and feel uneasy..
for example, if somethings restricting me from putting things in a neat order, ill get a tingling sensation at the back-bottom of my neck, kinda like when ur panicking about something/anxious
And when it comes to cleanliness, ill get the tingling feeling in my fingers, like i need to wash them really thouroughly again and again...
or i need to clean a particular thing e.g. kitchen work surface and i wont be satisfied until ive been scrubbing for ages even if its already clean


but im not ALWAYS like that.(espoecially with the neat order of things) its like strange phases i go through..

but one thing about the order thing is, i also have to do things in a certain order e.g. putting things away, or putting make up on...all of it has to be done in a pattern even though there wouldnt be any detriment in changing the order. and this is always with me, never in phases.

ive never really written all this down before, or discussed it with anyone...

please dont tell me im a psycho!
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Well, if you are able to cope with it...but OCD is more than that, it could be genitics or congenital factors or from other external source..it is actually a disorder....well I hope you are able to cope with it.:peace:
 

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