Orlando Shooting - Young man with Extreme Mind

[Cpt.America]

These two sentences leave a lot to be desired.

You can't blame the extremists for being extreme? Then what can you blame? Their ignorance? Isn't that part and parcel of the very same thing?

Today they have no excuses - we live in a world of INFORMATION, where any two bit idiot can learn anything, if they only search for it.

If someone is inclined to do evil, they will search of that which is evil.

Heck I remember last year when some muppet joined here and claimed the adverts he was seeing at the top of the Islamicboard page was always advertising pornographic websites and he was appalled at this display of advert on the sites main page... yet when I explained how google ad-words pool his search results from google and then display the relevant adverts to his interests on Islamicboard, he quickly ran off with his tail between his legs lol.

it's no secret, we got some real idiots on this forum who would rather discuss Islam from their "opinion" instead of from knowledge of the subject itself.

So when you write - one can't blame the extremists, people need to educate themselves - I ask, do you have a brain in that skull of yours? because I see no logic in such a wild statement.

Opinions are fitan, when they come from the "self"... let that be known clearly.

Scimi

Lol

Terrible. Some people...
Did you at least help him learn how to install ad blocker pro?

I hope that in the time since he's learned to avoid those things InshaaAllah

 

[Serinity]

Do not ask for this.
The destroyed nations of the past would taunt their messengers and ask "when is justice going to come?"
We know Allah's Justice is perfect.
And we also know that Allah is Most Merciful.
And that Allah's Mercy outweighs His wrath.

If we ask to see justice against people, if ask to see Allah's wrath.
Then be ready to pay for our own sins.

I am not perfect. I know my sins. I need Allah's Mercy to have time to correct myself. I am not ready to face the full weight of my sins against me.

If Allah gave Firawn time after he was killing babies.
If Allah gave Firawn time after being sent a Prophet.
If Allah gave Firawn time after being sent plague after plague to turn him to the straight path.
Then I hold on to dear hope that Allah gives me time to correct myself and improve my Imaan.

Firawn ignored every chance and every warning and all the time he was given. His time is up, and he will receive full justice.

Are you ready for justice right now? Are you ready for the full brunt of your sins right now?
If you are, then your confidence is something I can never match in myself.
If you are not, then let us seek Allah's Mercy and make use of the time we are given here to defeat our naffs and remedy our sins and turn to Allah,
instead of worrying about how other people will be punished.

The wrong doers will be punished. With a taste of the punishment in this life and the full brunt of their deeds in the hereafter. I assure you. Read the Quran.

But my fear is that I may be one of those wrong doers. So let me have my time, to be a better person. Please do not ask for punishment. do not seek to hasten it.

I am trying to seek Allah SWT's love through His SWT Justice.

I don't want punishment. I want Mercy.

I never asked for Allah SWT to punish me. I just seek His SWT Justice. And Mercy too.

 

[Scimitar]

Lol

Terrible. Some people...
Did you at least help him learn how to install ad blocker pro?

I hope that in the time since he's learned to avoid those things InshaaAllah

Lol, no, that was the last we heard of him.

Shame really, he should have stayed here, it's a better environment than the jungle we call the world wide web.

I, myself, have had my share of embarrassments on this forum, take for example the sad state I was in when I first joined here - but that's no reason to let my embarrassment get the better of me to the point where i chop nose to spite face (read that as leave and not learn anything). Sticking around works...

I can't remember who said it but this always comes to mind. "when you are going thru hell, for God's sake whatever you do, don't stop there"... makes a hecklotta sense to me,

Scimi

 

[Serinity]

Fear Allah brother. You have not even completed reading the entire Quran. If SCHOLARS who have spent the majority of their lifetime acquiring knowledge and practicing their deen aren't out and about killing people, then you have no say in who gets killed and who stays alive. That's Allah's job. The biggest reward of the believer is to see Allah's face on the day of judgement. You will not even have that blessing if you transgress your religion, you will just be questioned and punished. Allah is just and with His justice comes His grave punishment. The Quran, hadith, and the messenger of Allah pbuh answer all of the questions we need in order to live our lives righteously. If you want to overlook the guidance Allah ordained for us to follow, then be aware that the pride you have now to "ask Allah questions" will not be there on the day of humiliation. You'd be lucky to even let out a breath.

Some of what you say resonate with what my mom said.

I am happy to see people like you. :

 

[Ineed Umar]

Welp How to block a wall of islamophobe articles from LGBT community on my phone's edge screen? Thanks A lot daesh for ruining my Day.

Besides in Ramadan shedding blood is haram imo and you should mostly spend time praying and performing ibaadah. Let us not consider the men murdered (which is a big loss and sorrow) and see if any good came from it.

Muslim hate
Bloodshed in Ramadan
More votes for trump by lgbt which means destruction of America
More bombings in syria
Saudis got sued for 9/11 probably would be for Paris and this too
Muslims get stricter checking in airport
Anarchy between communities

Sigh~

 

[muslimah_B]

I just saw this on the news
And i was saying to myself
"Please dont say he was muslim, please dont say he was muslim"
Then it turns out he was afgani apparently bi-polar and a wife beater [emoji19]
Like honestly what is going on in the world, its going more and more crazy as time goes on, la illaha illAllah !!!!!

We have absolute idiots taking peoples lives in the name of Islam UNJUSTIFIABLY, and half of these idiots cry about sharia cry about injustices but do injustice themselves, who go against sharia themselevs... ***well how exactly is the way yoacting based on any sharia, where is the judge, to give a proper ruling and look on the facts and evidence of said crime before punishment
no one is allowed to take someones life in such a disgusting manner unless you directly are in a war or defending yourself.
WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND BY THAT ******

I dont understand how these "people" get the concept in their head it is acceptable to act this way in any shape or form
You live in the west you follow the laws of the country unless it directly goes against Allahs laws, sharia cannot be established untill the MAJORITY of the population of that country or place is muslim, we are the minority hence forth we follow laws of the land untill we are able to move to muslim lands or a land begins being ruled by sharia

This just makes it harder for every muslim to live their lives on a day to day basis, we already have people beating and harrasing muslims in the west as these things carry on it will get worse for us

Middle east is getting blown to pieces our brothers and sisters are dying in the most horrible and un-human ways and in the west we are being attacked but to no extent of our other brothers and sisters. Is anywhere going to be safe for muslims to just proclaim faith

Honestly whenever i hear about these things it just reminds me why Allah is going to be so furious on the day of judgment, i mean look at people all throughout history and now,
killing people horribly
rape is rife
Serial killers
Peadophiles
People torturing people
Corrupt governments
Hunting animals for trophies not food, torturing them
Gays are becoming rife
Athiests
And the list can go on but do we really have to wonder why Allah is going to be so furious, we are so lucky to be muslim and have the prophet mohammed s.a.w to intercede for us and the tinyiest of opportunity to go jannah

May Allah protect us all, and let us die with emaan in our hearts and la ilaha ilAllah on our toungues.ameen

***ranting nearlly over***

 

[Cpt.America]

I just saw this on the news
And i was saying to myself
"Please dont say he was muslim, please dont say he was muslim"
Then it turns out he was afgani apparently bi-polar and a wife beater [emoji19]
Like honestly what is going on in the world, its going more and more crazy as time goes on, la illaha illAllah !!!!!

We have absolute idiots taking peoples lives in the name of Islam UNJUSTIFIABLY, and half of these idiots cry about sharia cry about injustices but do injustice themselves, who go against sharia themselevs... ***well how exactly is the way yoacting based on any sharia, where is the judge, to give a proper ruling and look on the facts and evidence of said crime before punishment
no one is allowed to take someones life in such a disgusting manner unless you directly are in a war or defending yourself.
WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND BY THAT ******

I dont understand how these "people" get the concept in their head it is acceptable to act this way in any shape or form
You live in the west you follow the laws of the country unless it directly goes against Allahs laws, sharia cannot be established untill the MAJORITY of the population of that country or place is muslim, we are the minority hence forth we follow laws of the land untill we are able to move to muslim lands or a land begins being ruled by sharia

This just makes it harder for every muslim to live their lives on a day to day basis, we already have people beating and harrasing muslims in the west as these things carry on it will get worse for us

Middle east is getting blown to pieces our brothers and sisters are dying in the most horrible and un-human ways and in the west we are being attacked but to no extent of our other brothers and sisters. Is anywhere going to be safe for muslims to just proclaim faith

Honestly whenever i hear about these things it just reminds me why Allah is going to be so furious on the day of judgment, i mean look at people all throughout history and now,
killing people horribly
rape is rife
Serial killers
Peadophiles
People torturing people
Corrupt governments
Hunting animals for trophies not food, torturing them
Gays are becoming rife
Athiests
And the list can go on but do we really have to wonder why Allah is going to be so furious, we are so lucky to be muslim and have the prophet mohammed s.a.w to intercede for us and the tinyiest of opportunity to go jannah

May Allah protect us all, and let us die with emaan in our hearts and la ilaha ilAllah on our toungues.ameen

***ranting nearlly over***

It is not a rant if it is the truth.

 

[Cpt.America]

You make some good points. I think I was too harsh to say what I said.

I've always had trouble with empathy though and being empathetic to others. I'm an incredibly selfish person astaghfirullah. Even caring about those closest to me sometimes proves difficult.

Thanks for reminding me

It was as much a reminder to myself as to anyone reading.
I know that I have to turn to Allah to make my heart softer and my character more in line with that which is pleasing to Him,
as shown to us by the exemplary examples of the Prophets and their companions and the pious men and women beloved to Allah,
especially the unparalleled character of Prophet Muhammad SAWS.

If you can diagnose your own flaws, it means that your heart is not arrogant Alahmdulillah. May Allah give you and the rest of us to overcome our deficiencies.

 

[Scimitar]

I tell you a good joke... real funny.

A married muslim goes to a night club, in ramadhan.

Told you it was funny.

Scimi

 

[AbdurRahman.]

he was incensed to see two men kissing in front of his wife and kid, so he planned to 'teach them a lesson'; lol what a nutter! :Emoji46:

 

[Cpt.America]

I tell you a good joke... real funny.

A married muslim goes to a night club, in ramadhan.

Told you it was funny.

Scimi

I crie everytiem.

Well I can one up your joke my bro:

A married Muslim goes to a GAY night club, in Ramadan.

 

[muslimah_B]

It is not a rant if it is the truth.

I know but this is just driving me absolutely crazy

They make life harder for all of us here, its hard enough as it is to go out without idiots starting fights or shouting vulgar language towards us, but these things are not going to stop, we wont stop being harrassed, bullied, treated as lesser human beings even in the west especially the u.k and USA where equal rights and human rights are always screamed about

I mean i know these SILLY people (nicest language i could use on here) didnt think about it before they done it (and with all the other actions) but absolutely no care for the impact their actions will cause on the ummah here in the west and how their actions will backfire and send more troops and bombs in the middle east, honestly some of these SILLY PEOPLE need a seriously good beating and a drag down to reality about their religion and the sharia they claim to love oh so much
Everytime i hear these things it makes my blood boil !

If its a white dude who kills someone, he is mentally instable and needs help

A asian/arab/black dude kills someone, his race and/or his religion is immediately the root cause of the issue and blazed across the news, more so if they are muslim the religion then becomes the problem and all muslims are the same ASTAGFIRLLAH
then apparently we need to "mordenise" our religion to keep up with times now or we need a revise of it as its too violent ASTAGFIRLLAH

 

[Scimitar]

I crie everytiem.

Well I can one up your joke my bro:

A married Muslim goes to a GAY night club, in Ramadan.

I know man... all I see is red flags.

As for Da-Man, you know, that funky dude they call Uncle Sam... oh boy oh boy, his finger looks like one half of a twix. He waves it one more time in front of my face, I'm a bite it off - providing its past iftar time

Scimi

 

[Ineed Umar]

A married man just got fed up with his boring wife and went for alternatives in Ramadan. He came across a GAY nightclub and couldn't keep his big guns intact so he started shooting viscously. Ba dum tsss

 

[muslimah_B]

Maybe a bit to earli to make jokes ?!?

(Unless it end with someone punching him in the face and telling him to fear Allah and he cries and runs home)

 

[EgyptPrincess]

What I don't understand is if these morons really want to kill people for the sake of Allah swt then why not kill actual soldiers or combatants? Soldiers, sailors, politicians etc?

Why is it always again the civilians? Killing innocent unarmed civilians is the very definition of being a coward. If you're going to do something like this at least have the heart to do it to those who do to you.

If a bully beats your family up, you don't beat his neighbours family up -_-

 

[Ineed Umar]

Just search Omar Mir Seddique Mateen and see his pics. Just tell me does he look like a practising muslim to you really? Looksort more like a rapper gangsta in some pucs



"10/10 Musleem confirmed threat are all Muslims eliminate them" IGN


The last line is a joke do not take it seriously.

 

[EgyptPrincess]

Just search Omar Mir Seddique Mateen and see his pics. Just tell me does he look like a practising muslim to you really? Looksort more like a rapper gangsta in some pucs



"10/10 Musleem confirmed threat are all Muslims eliminate them" IGN


The last line is a joke do not take it seriously.

He probably played too much call of duty

 

[Scimitar]

You two need to learn how HASBARA operate, and what a FALSE FLAG is.

Scimi

 

[Aisha]

I'm going to close this thread. Thanks everyone for keeping it civil so far. This type of discussion really doesn't benefit us, especially in Ramadhan.
OP, if you'd like the thread re-opened after Ramadhan, please PM a member of staff.