Orthodox Jewish 'Modesty Patrols' Put Israelis on Edge

"You have to understand that when I read I don't commit to memory hadith number 3187 in volume 3 etc etc for instance, but I am sure googling or asking a scholar will yield results.."

thanks and sorry for the trouble:)

Skye Ephémérine said:
although this isn't the one I had in mind, there was another where he actually got up and looked toward the east and said the evils will come from there..:w:
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though some say to the east of Medina lies Najd

btw,a bit off topic but does it mean the Iranians/Shiites will follow dajjal even though they claim to await the Mahdi the most amongst all muslims?
 
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alcurad said:
"You have to understand that when I read I don't commit to memory hadith number 3187 in volume 3 etc etc for instance, but I am sure googling or asking a scholar will yield results.."

thanks and sorry for the trouble:)


though some say to the east of Medina lies Najd

btw,a bit off topic but does it mean the Iranians/Shiites will follow dajjal even though they claim to await the Mahdi the most amongst all muslims?
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Nejd is neighbouring the province of Hijaz right?

I've heard that some people claimed that Dajjal is the 12th hidden imam... and some said that Dajjal is a Jew controlling USA from the Bermuda triangle...

But what Dajjal has to do with Jewish modesty patrol?
 
yes, Najd is neighboring to Hejaz and east of it.

see, according to the ahadeeth a great number of Jews will follow him. thus rise in Jewish 'Ultra orthodox ism' is also the rise of people who are awaiting the mosaich who has yet to materialize, and certainly they won't accept Jesus as the mosaich so...
 
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alcurad said:
see, according to the ahadeeth a great number of Jews will follow him. thus rise in Jewish 'Ultra orthodox ism' is also the rise of people who are awaiting the mosaich who has yet to materialize, and certainly they won't accept Jesus as the mosaich so...
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so....you're saying that Dajjal is the awaited Moshiach...and those modesty patrol Orthodox Jews would be the followers?:blind:
 
the environment they live in is conductive to such thoughts.

I was simply pointing out some co-relation in the subjects since you asked...:)
 
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barney said:
Khurasan also covered Afganistan.
Having sheild shaped heads though i'm not sure about. Turkmanistan has more of a mongel ethnicity and they tend to have broader flatter faces.
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I don't believe the shields covered with skins to denote their actual faces -- perhaps simply an armour they will be sporting... the same as zho el'qrnyen in chapter 18, isn't the name of a man but a description of man who sported

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and of course

Allah swt knows best
 
Skye said:
"You have to understand that when I read I don't commit to memory hadith number 3187 in volume 3 etc etc for instance, but I am sure googling or asking a scholar will yield results.
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alcurad said:
"thanks and sorry for the trouble:)
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It is no trouble at all, just that I hate googling anything Islamic, I get 438958935 negative websites for everyone with what I am looking for, it is hard to sort through..


though some say to the east of Medina lies Najd
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I really believe it is Iran. I used to defend them, but all the Iranians I have encountered neither understand Islam, follow it properly or willing to accept the fact they were conquered by Arabs.. the speak often with such hatred of Islam.. I mean compare them to say the Egyptians who also has a great empire before Islam but embraced it with completely open arms-- these folks are too consumed still with their pagan festivals and practices if at all. The place that gave us the likes of Salamn Rushdie and persopalis, and runs useless studies on why not to fast, they fit the prophecies well.. the fact that the majority of them are shiites and they persecute the Sunnis on the Saudi border, their agenda is really no different than the amero-Israeli one, neither are their practices.

btw,a bit off topic but does it mean the Iranians/Shiites will follow dajjal even though they claim to await the Mahdi the most amongst all muslims?
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I believe mostly the Jews will follow him, in fact some Jews will follow Jesus as well Christians but the Jews who follow him will be a minority and it is said he'll be a witness against them on the day of judgment.
Jesus won't have any 'special powers' when he descends, and you must understand the earth will be in a very bad shape, in terms of crops and droughts, poverty, bankruptcy (who knows we might even be a witness to all of this given the bad economic shape and climate changes around the world) so when the Dajjal comes, he will resemble everything the Jews are awaiting, and if you research in their own scriptures, he really will do the things that the Dajjal (anti-christ) will do.. I mean they describe exactly the anti-Christ.. sob7an Allah


Allah knows best

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Chuck said:
Those 'modesty squads' were locked up in Israel?
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If they assault people, they have to deal with indictments. Id imagine that also involves locking up in most violent cases. Do you have any other knowledge that would imply that they are not punished/locked up after they have been found guilty?
 
alcurad said:
yes, Najd is neighboring to Hejaz and east of it.

see, according to the ahadeeth a great number of Jews will follow him. thus rise in Jewish 'Ultra orthodox ism' is also the rise of people who are awaiting the mosaich who has yet to materialize, and certainly they won't accept Jesus as the mosaich so...
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could that number be around 70 thousand and not 15 million (which might be total Jewish population of the entire planet)

oh BTW how many jews are there of the Iranian variety?

and did I ever say to you that little knowlege is a dangerous thing?

is 70 thousand a greater part of 15 million?
 
doorster said:
could that number be around 70 thousand and not 15 million (which might be total Jewish population of the entire planet)

oh BTW how many jews are there of the Iranian variety?

and did I ever say to you that little knowlege is a dangerous thing?

is 70 thousand a greater part of 15 million?
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Yeah... I believe that only a small group of Jews would be the followers of Dajjal....

When Al Mahdi and Jesus come, most of the Jews would be their supporters...
 
Skye Ephémérine said:
I don't believe the shields covered with skins to denote their actual faces -- perhaps simply an armour they will be sporting... the same as zho el'qrnyen in chapter 18, isn't the name of a man but a description of man who sported



and of course

Allah swt knows best
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I've read an article years ago saying that Dhulqarnayn was not Alexander the Great, but he was Cyrus the Great, the Emperor of Persia.
 
Suomipoika said:
If they assault people, they have to deal with indictments. Id imagine that also involves locking up in most violent cases. Do you have any other knowledge that would imply that they are not punished/locked up after they have been found guilty?
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I've not read anywhere that they have been locked up. Some people might have that done something very extreme, but 'modesty squads' have been operating for a long time and I've not seen any news that said they have been imprisoned by the govt. So just checking if it is just assumption.

But I've nothing against 'modesty squads,' esp moderate ones, I don't support everything they do, but I can understand why they have local support in their communities.
 
Chuck said:
I've not read anywhere that they have been locked up.
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Member of 'modesty squad' indicted
By ETGAR LEFKOVITS


A 29-year-old man affiliated with Jerusalem's haredi "modesty squad" has been indicted in a Jerusalem court for allegedly assaulting a 31-year-old woman in her apartment, together with six other men, after they suspected she had carried out "improper" relations with other men, court documents released Sunday show.

The suspect, Elhanan Buzaglo, who worked for the haredi modesty squad - a vigilante group active in the Mea Shearim and Geula neighborhoods that sees to it that the city's haredi residents conduct themselves in accordance with the conventions of their ultra-observant lifestyle - was allegedly paid $2,000 for his services, the charge sheet states.

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Buzaglo was arrested last month after his fingerprints were found in the plaintiff's apartment, police said.

"A man who is allegedly willing to take part in the cruel beating of a young and helpless woman 'suspected' of socializing with married men, and all this solely for money, is a dangerous, conscienceless person with no inhibitions," Judge Nava Ben-Or wrote in her decision to extend his remand in custody.

A second suspect has been arrested in the case, Jerusalem police spokesman Asi Aharoni said.

The suspect, Binyamin Meirovitch of Jerusalem, is believed to be one of the modesty squad's leaders, and the person responsible for the illicit organization's operations.

The other men involved in the attack remain at large.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1219572113369


Chuck,
Just FYI. Now you've read that people have been locked up for this. I'm glad I could help you.

Regards.
 
I believe the operative word in this thread is 'assault'

cheers
 

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