Osama Bin Laden has been killed

[LavaDog]

That means You say directly, There is no difference between Taliban and USA.

Yes, I believe both the taliban and the US soldiers fight for what they think is right and in each group they have a few people who have killed civilians. Do you feel the taliban had moral high ground over the US when they hung a kid?

 

[Bintulislam]

Yes, I believe both the taliban and the US soldiers fight for what they think is right and in each group they have a few people who have killed civilians. Do you feel the taliban had moral high ground over the US when they hung a kid?

Assalamu Alaikum!

Well,we know that United states founded talibans...so talibans do follow a lot of instructions that there founders left them with.Secondly,what we don't know is that whatever these news channels show us is true or not(I mean ,it was reported in a well reputed newspaper when 2 Russian journalists were shooting a fake taliban punishment video here in Pakistan)--United states(the Govt) has been the perpetrator of falsehoods and conspiracies plus the double standards makes it more ugly and inhuman than the talibans.

 

[Cabdullahi]

An allergy and not anguish may explain why Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had her hand to her mouth while watching the commando operation to kill Osama bin Laden, she said on Thursday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42914093/ns/health-allergies_and_asthma/

Allergy lol

 

[Zafran]

Salaam

so what happens beyond Bin Laden -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD1ke67lr50&feature=feedu

Empire on al ajzeera.

peace

 

[Chavundur]

Yes, I believe both the taliban and the US soldiers fight for what they think is right and in each group they have a few people who have killed civilians. Do you feel the taliban had moral high ground over the US when they hung a kid?

Taliban may be inspired by American way, I don't know whether Taliban hung a kid or not but I know that Recent America and old America which has killed thousands of Indians, has no moral difference. Simple Logic, I have power, so I am Right, so I can kill my enemy with some collateral damage which I don't care, Taliban should be gone because there is a decrease in drug production, I need drug to shut my citizens brain off. What a weak comparison to support American policy, Taliban against USA. If Taliban cuts one throat, America can burn Iraq. I think America needs more drug consumption.

 

[Salahudeen]

It's only 5 mins long check it out

 

[LavaDog]

Well,we know that United states founded talibans

Very true.

United states(the Govt) has been the perpetrator of falsehoods and conspiracies plus the double standards makes it more ugly and inhuman than the talibans.

Yes I know we have had fire fights with drug cartels over opium and then the news reports we had contact with taliban fighters selling drugs. But the taliban still kills people and people have to realize that even if they don't want to. I dont like seeing videos or pics of troops killing civilians but its a huge doulbe standard to pretend all killings by the taliban are fabrication. Even the civilians are pretty brutal in Afghanistan. You could yell Shiite and you could form an angry mob armed with pitch forks and torches.

 

[Sunnie Ameena]

Titus and Goodfellow, I think what you two posted is good. It makes alot of since.
I would also like to say, that if bin Laden was behind 9/11 he will be held accountable, along with anyone else who was involved. I am wanting to convert to Islam, and will not let the hateful views on this forum stop me. I do not believe all Muslims are that way, just like I do not believe all Americans are that way. Watch the news, there are also many Americans that wanted justice, just like there were many Muslims who wanted it, and vice versa.
I do feel very sad that his daughter had to see what went on. Maybe we should think about what is going on with the children that were there instead of all this backbiting and criticizing. It is starting to get really silly here, considering someone is going so far as to criticize the way people write, maybe your opinion doesn't matter to alot of us. So I ask, do you criticize the the Muslims that are glad he is dead, or just the Americans that are glad he is dead.
I think more people need to pull together and help all those that were victims of this event, instead of pointing fingers. Put yourself in their shoes, wouldn't you want people to help you? Peace, Sunnie

 

[جوري]

It's only 5 mins long check it out

Interesting..

Anyhow, in Egypt they're offering the Janaazah prayer for him tomorrow and in Al masry newspaper they said Egypt would have offered a burial spot (so that takes care of what country would want him) also they're questioning who performed the so-called sharia prayers and burial for the dead the Islamic way for him before they set him out to sea!

 

[Futuwwa]

How can a country act like nomad tribe and kill its enemy without judging or showing his justice before aggrieved ones ?

Uh, that's called war. It's not always feasible to capture enemies and put them on trial. During the Battle of Badr, did the Prophet and his companions just bonk the Quraishi on the head to stun them to be able to capture them without killing any of them? Like hell they did, they cut them to pieces. Mercy is reserved for those who surrender, or those who are lucky enough to be taken out of action with a wounding but not killing blow.

 

[جوري]

Uh, that's called war. It's not always feasible to capture enemies and put them on trial

I am so glad you wrote that, I was about to mention it in passing yesterday then figured isn't it just common sense?

 

[yas2010]

Originally Posted by Chavundur
How can a country act like nomad tribe and kill its enemy without judging or showing his justice before aggrieved ones ?



Uh, that's called war. It's not always feasible to capture enemies and put them on trial. During the Battle of Badr, did the Prophet and his companions just bonk the Quraishi on the head to stun them to be able to capture them without killing any of them? Like hell they did, they cut them to pieces. Mercy is reserved for those who surrender, or those who are lucky enough to be taken out of action with a wounding but not killing blow.​

Have to agree with you.

Didn't the Nazi's get the Nuremberg trials?



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[Bintulislam]

But the taliban still kills people and people have to realize that even if they don't want to. I dont like seeing videos or pics of troops killing civilians but its a huge doulbe standard to pretend all killings by the taliban are fabrication. Even the civilians are pretty brutal in Afghanistan. You could yell Shiite and you could form an angry mob armed with pitch forks and torches.[/QUOTE]


There's no point denying it but before that one must acknowledge that there are many 'types' of talibans(Afghani,Jihadi,Russian,American and Indian etc)I remember reading a column where that journalist had researched of how many cults with different motives have been functioning under the same label 'Talibans'--we don't even know that whether they are all muslims.

And a very big yes to the brutal cultural responses--that as you have pointed it out also proves that its their culture--its not Islam's fault.And that they do not represent fundamental Muslims.

As for Uncle Sam,this guy has no iman and no conscience.I choose not to believe anything that the Govt. of U.S puts up.It is because of them that world is suffering form such consequences.Nobody is safe.

 

[Cabdullahi]

hillary clinton coughs while she's surprised and shocked

 

[Chavundur]

Uh, that's called war. It's not always feasible to capture enemies and put them on trial. During the Battle of Badr, did the Prophet and his companions just bonk the Quraishi on the head to stun them to be able to capture them without killing any of them? Like hell they did, they cut them to pieces. Mercy is reserved for those who surrender, or those who are lucky enough to be taken out of action with a wounding but not killing blow.

I see no relation between your message and mine. I say, America could capture him alive without killing unarmed innocents. (I believe OBL is innocent too). I try to say, is there any international law among countries, or between Pakistan and America. Is there something in the name of Law. America try to bring the terms of anarchy into our world. I hope its collapse will resemble cries of innocent ones.

 

[Chavundur]

Have to agree with you.

Didn't the Nazi's get the Nuremberg trials?



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Wauw,Sorry I can't see a open war between two army, Sorry for using that word "enemy", USA army against fantastic five ( Osama and his family)

 

[Futuwwa]

I see no relation between your message and mine. I say, America could capture him alive without killing unarmed innocents. (I believe OBL is innocent too). I try to say, is there any international law among countries, or between Pakistan and America. Is there something in the name of Law. America try to bring the terms of anarchy into our world. I hope its collapse will resemble cries of innocent ones.

Well, could the US have captured him? They did a commando operation into the heart of another country, you can't just bring in any amount of men and materiel on a mission like that. Osama and his henchmen resisted violently and with lethal force, how would it have been possible for the US commandos to subdue all of them without making the mission effectively impossible to succeed? What unarmed innocents are you speaking of? There is nothing illegal or dishonourable about warriors killing enemy warriors. Osama's wife was the only unarmed innocent in any way affected, and afaik she survived.

 

[Zafran]

Well, could the US have captured him? They did a commando operation into the heart of another country, you can't just bring in any amount of men and materiel on a mission like that. Osama and his henchmen resisted violently and with lethal force, how would it have been possible for the US commandos to subdue all of them without making the mission effectively impossible to succeed? What unarmed innocents are you speaking of? There is nothing illegal or dishonourable about warriors killing enemy warriors. Osama's wife was the only unarmed innocent in any way affected, and afaik she survived.

Bin Laden was uanrmed

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/05/bin-laden-uncomfortable-feeling-rowan-williams

 

[The Ruler]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/05/osama-bin-laden-not-armed

Unnamed US officials told the New York Times that the only shots fired from within the compound in Abbottabad where Bin Laden was sheltering came from his courier Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, who was behind the door of a guesthouse adjacent to the main house. The US raiding party shot and killed Kuwaiti and a woman in the guesthouse, and on entering the main house were not fired on again, the officials said.

Multiple sources state that firefights were "going on" whilst they confronted Osama, however, I fail to understand how that could be so when the only armed man was shot before entry into the main house. Tinnitus perhaps?

 

[ابن آل مرة]

The firefight was actually 2 hours long according to some Jihadi sources. Plus the helicopter that they said was down because of mechanical failures is bunch of BS. It was shot down, and of course they wouldn't admit that..

Power and beautiful words..SubhanAllah.