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But what is wrong with Muslim leaders being cozy with the U.S.? Why would it be bad for the Caliphate—once it exists—to be friends with the United States, or even Israel?

Most Americans and Israelis just want peace. If Muslims form a Caliphate that succeeds in reigning in non-state groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, what exactly would prevent the Caliphate from making peace with Western powers?


If I'm not mistaken, in the prophet's (peace be upon him) time he had truces and agreements with non muslims, and with their leaders and countries. It's not a problem.
What IS the problem is the arab leaders nowadays who would rather kiss U.S. butt and remain safely at the sidelines watching while their brothers in both religion and ancestry are being slaughtered. It's like supporting a friend while he's beating up your brother- it's selling out to the extreme. I'm saying this presuming that the brother does not deserve whatever punishment is being inflicted upon him. However one should always support and aid justice and the truth, even if it is a fellow muslim who is in the wrong, and a non muslim in the right.
 
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If I'm not mistaken, in the prophet's (peace be upon him) time he had truces and agreements with non muslims, and with their leaders and countries. It's not a problem.
What IS the problem is the arab leaders nowadays who would rather kiss U.S. butt and remain safely at the sidelines watching while their brothers in both religion and ancestry are being slaughtered. It's like supporting a friend while he's beating up your brother- it's selling out to the extreme. I'm saying this presuming that the brother does not deserve whatever punishment is being inflicted upon him. However one should always support and aid justice and the truth, even if it is a fellow muslim who is in the wrong, and a non muslim in the right.
But what would the Caliphate do about Israel?

Would the Caliphate outlaw groups like Hamas, outlaw shooting rockets indiscriminately at Israeli towns, and work peacefully towards a two-state solution?

Or would the Caliphate just act like a bigger, badder Hamas, foolishly playing chicken with a nuclear power?

I would hope that the Caliphate, if it ever does come to exist, has the moral courage to act peacefully instead of vengefully.
 
But what would the Caliphate do about Israel?

Would the Caliphate outlaw groups like Hamas, outlaw shooting rockets indiscriminately at Israeli towns, and work peacefully towards a two-state solution?

Or would the Caliphate just act like a bigger, badder Hamas, foolishly playing chicken with a nuclear power?

I would hope that the Caliphate, if it ever does come to exist, has the moral courage to act peacefully instead of vengefully.

why outlaw Hamas, they were democraticaly elected by 70 per cent then over ruled by USA for no reason other than it was not the democracy they wanted. Hamas are fighting for their right
 
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The sickest thing about this whole issue is how those leaders of all the so called Islamic ruled countries sit back with shut mouths and behave as if their hands are tied not lift a single finger in the aid of these suffering Brothers and Sisters.

Dubai can squander Billions and trillions in baseless and wasteful buildings but cant give even quarter of that money to them nor can Saudi which is so bl***y rich.
Nor do Egypt, Jordan and whichever others.:raging:

These are all the signs of Qiyamah and will carry on till the time of Imam Mehdi.

May Allah Ta'aala punish severely these horrible jews for all the harm they are causing my brothers and sisters.
It broke my heart to read thru this thread. imsad
 
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AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

Rockets are the only instrument in the hands of Palestinian resistance groups in Gaza to fight against Israeli attacks into the strip.

During a six-month Egyptian-brokered ceasefire that ended on December 19, Israel troops killed 22 Palestinians in 195 raids and injured 66 in Gaza.

No Israeli civilian was killed in Palestinian rocket attacks during the same period.

Palestinian groups insist a months-long crippling Israeli siege on Gaza be lifted before extending the ceasefire with Israel.

"Our demand is clear; the aggression must end immediately, the siege lifted and the crossings opened," Hamas political chief Khaled Meshaal has said.

...Source...

FiAmaaniAllah
 
Hamas resistance

"If you commit the stupidity of launching a ground offensive, then a black destiny awaits you," Khaled Meshaal, the political leader of Hamas, said on Friday.

"You will soon find out that Gaza is the wrath of God."

Meshaal, speaking from the Syrian capital of Damascus on Friday, said Palestinians in Gaza were ready for any land offensive made by the Israelis.

"This battle was imposed on us and we are confident we will achieve victory because we have made our preparations.

"Our position is clear. We will not give in. Our resolve cannot be broken," he said.

"Our demand is also clear. The war must end, the siege lifted, and crossing points open without restriction."

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...452527102.html


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5 soldiers killed on the ground since ground invasion... news from palestine
 
Hamas in the eyes of an expert

Khaled Hroub, author of several books on Hamas, including Hamas: A Beginner's Guide, talks to Al Jazeera about the organisation's social and political strengths and explains why he believes Hamas is looking forward to an Israeli ground incursion into the Gaza Strip.

Al Jazeera: Two senior Hamas leaders were recently killed in Israeli air strikes. How will this impact the organisation's leadership?

Khaled Hroub: Hamas' leaders are very used to hiding and escaping Israeli attacks. I can't see this affecting Hamas much. Israel succeeded in assassinating very senior Hamas leaders including Sheikh [Ahmed] Yasin himself, the founder and spiritual leader of Hamas, then followed by Abdel Aziz Al-Rantissi who was the main figure in the Gaza Strip.

And yet Hamas continued to rise and succeeded in winning the elections. So I can't see Hamas being weakened by killing one or two or three or even more leaders in the Gaza Strip.


How does the Hamas leadership work, given that Hamas is not so much an organisation but a deeply rooted ideology amongst the Palestinians in Gaza?

Hamas's strength is based on the very broad social and political base that it has in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, so what we are seeing as the leadership is only the tip of the iceberg.

Hamas's leadership is decentralised between the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, the Israeli jails and the leadership outside of Palestine.

This kind of power of decentralisation of Hamas makes the whole movement stronger in terms of not caging the leadership in one single area, and because of this they keep producing leaders from the third and second rankings to the highest echelons of the movement.

Hamas doesn't have the military resources to match Israel. If the ground incursion does happen, how do you see Hamas operating?

I can't see any success, strategically speaking, on the side of the Israeli aggression. That is because Israel declared that their one main objective is to disarm Hamas and stop rockets from being launched from the Gaza Strip. Even after one month of this aggression, if one single rocket was launched from the Gaza Strip this means the whole Israeli strategy has failed.

If any land incursion takes place into the Gaza Strip, I think this makes the whole Israeli strategy even more difficult. Everybody knows that Hamas is well-entrenched now in the Gaza Strip because they have a network of tunnels - they hide very well. And maybe even they hope that at one point this Israeli land invasion takes place so that they can deal the Israeli army some strong defensive attacks.

Would Hamas have learned lessons from Hezbollah's war against Israel in southern Lebanon in the summer of 2006?

One can tell of so many lessons Hamas has learned from the experience of Hezbollah in the summer of 2006. First of all, this tunnel strategy that has taken place in the Gaza Strip, secondly even the sloganeering and rhetoric - rather than producing threats that they can't match, what they are doing and what they are saying is something they can achieve.

The Israeli side knows very well that Hamas has unseen and unknown capabilities within the Gaza Strip and this is why they are still reluctant to do the invasion.

Is the war likely to galvanise support behind Hamas?

In my view, Hamas will most likely emerge victorious out of this because on the one hand, it's akin to impossible to eradicate Hamas from the Gaza Strip.

I can't imagine any way of finishing this movement in the Gaza Strip. Even if it was finished, what we'd end up with is a more radical Palestinian organisation, an al-Qaeda-like organisation coming out of the rubble of Hamas's destruction.

Politically speaking, Hamas is now gaining more popularity, not only amongst Palestinians but across the Arab and Muslim world. They are seen as the only party that can face Israel.

What Israel wants from the Gaza Strip is basically a clean and quiet occupation like they achieved in the West Bank.

In the West Bank there are no rockets launched against Israel and yet we have Palestinians killed, arrested, their homes demolished on a daily and weekly basis. We have this thing happening in the West Bank but not complaining, no moaning. Hamas is doing this complaining, doing this resistance.

So it's a war of image on the side of the Israeli army, their image was destroyed in summer 2006 and now they want to restore that image and that name.


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/200913163956673954.html
 
As a super-secular atheist, I agree with you. I really hope that Muslims do form a new Caliphate. If people in the middle east and elsewhere want to define their society in terms of Islam, that is their choice, and it should be respected (and it seems to be the case, anyway).

But what is wrong with Muslim leaders being cozy with the U.S.? Why would it be bad for the Caliphate—once it exists—to be friends with the United States, or even Israel?

Most Americans and Israelis just want peace. If Muslims form a Caliphate that succeeds in reigning in non-state groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, what exactly would prevent the Caliphate from making peace with Western powers?

The U.S would never tolerate an islamic state being created, they know the islamic would become a superpower, unless it was controlled by the US like all arab puppet regimes
 
Gaza Sea Cries Blood

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The news made headlines, an 8 year old little girl running over a small sandy hill screaming "Yaba, Yaba" (Daddy, Daddy). But her father couldnt answer her cries, his blood poured as the Gaza Sea rushed to the shore mixing blood with water.

The scene was horrific as the little girl lay on the sands crying and shouting at the loss of ALL of her family, including her youngest sibling twins that were both merely one year old.

The seas rushed onto the shores delighting the sights of the families enjoying their family picnics. They heard laughter, saw smiles, and enjoyed their holiday with their families. That was until the Israeli missles and automated fire poured down with hatred onto the once white sandy beach in Gaza. The laughter stopped at the sounds of explosions and shelling as little bodies were torn apart and families torn away from each other through death.

The massacre left 7 family members dead of Huda Galia's family and 3 other residents perished at the hateful gunfire of the Israeli Army. Scores of residents were injured, 30 reported suffered injuries and many were infants and children.

Wiham, 20, and his two sisters, Latifa, 11, and Hadeel, 8, survived after the rest of their family were murdered as the Israeli military shelled the once happy beaches in Gaza.

Gaza cried. Palestine cried. Will the world cry?
 
Greetings and peace be with you Prince;
i repeat what i said, God is on our side, whether you like to hear that or not,
There is One God, and the same God who created you and gave you a faith though Islam, also created me and gave me a faith through Christianity.

I believe we cause great problems when we say God is on our side.

Gaza is wrong and it evokes a real passion and anger, here is something a thousand times worse which rarely gets any sort of a response.
According to UNICEF, 26,500-30,000 children die each day due to poverty. And they “die quietly in some of the poorest villages on earth, far removed from the scrutiny and the conscience of the world. Being meek and weak in life makes these dying multitudes even more invisible in death.”Source 4

http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats

In the spirit of praying for justice for the poor and oppressed of all Nations.

Eric
 
Propaganda war: trusting what we see?

By Paul Reynolds
World affairs correspondent, BBC News website



Israel has tried to take the initiative in the propaganda war over Gaza but, in one important instance, its version has been seriously challenged.

The incident raises the question of how to interpret video taken from the air.

Israel released video of an air attack on 28 December, which appeared to show rockets being loaded onto a lorry. The truck and those close to it were then destroyed by a missile.


video: Israeli footage of the truck being attacked - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7809371.stm


This was clear evidence, the Israelis said, of how accurate their strikes were and how well justified. A special unit it has set up to coordinate its informational plan put the video onto YouTube as part of its effort to use modern means of communications to get Israel's case across.

The YouTube video has a large caption on it saying "Grad missiles being loaded onto the Hamas vehicle." As of Saturday morning UK time, more than 260,000 people had watched it.

Different version

It turned out, however, that a 55-year-old Gaza resident named Ahmed Sanur, or Samur, claimed that the truck was his and that he and members of his family and his workers were moving oxygen cylinders from his workshop.

This workshop had been damaged when a building next door was bombed by the Israelis and he was afraid of looters, he said.

The Israeli human rights group B'Tselem put Mr Sanur's account on its website, together with a photograph of burned out oxygen cylinders.

Mr Sanur said that eight people, one of them his son, had been killed. He subsequently told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz: "These were not Hamas, they were our children... They were not Grad missiles.".

The Israeli response was that the "materiel" was being taken from a site that had stored weapons. The video remains on You Tube.

But the incident shows how an apparently definitive piece of video can turn into something much more doubtful.

It is reminiscent of an event in the Nato war against Serbia over Kosovo in 1999. In that case, a video taken from the air seemed to show a military convoy which was then attacked.

On the ground however it was discovered that the "trucks" were in fact tractors towing cartloads of civilian refugees, many of whom were killed.


Israel effort

The Israeli propaganda effort is being directed to achieve two main aims.

The first is to justify the air attacks. The second is to show that there is no humanitarian calamity in Gaza.

Both these aims are intended to place Israel in a strong position internationally and to enable its diplomacy to act as an umbrella to fend off calls for a ceasefire while the military operation unfolds.

Israel has pursued the first aim by being very active in getting its story across that Hamas is to blame. The sight of Hamas rockets streaking into Israel has been helpful in this respect.

It has also allowed trucks in with food aid and has stressed that it will not let people starve, even if they go short.
Israel appears to think its efforts are working.

One of its spokespeople, who has regularly appeared on the international media, Major Avital Leibovich, said: "Quite a few outlets are very favourable to Israel."

Ban on foreign media

Israel has bolstered its approach by banning foreign correspondents from Gaza, despite a ruling from the Israeli Supreme Court.

The Arab television news channel Al Jazeera is operating there and its reports have been graphic and have affected opinion across the Arab world. The BBC also has its local bureau hard at work.

But the absence of reporters from major organisations has meant, for example, that Mr Samur's story has not been as widely told as it probably would have been, or his account subject to an on-the-spot examination.

Meanwhile Israel has received good coverage of the threats and damage to its own towns and communities.

Whether Israel retains any propaganda initiative is not all certain. Pictures of dead and wounded children have undermined its claim to pinpoint accuracy and the longer this goes on, the greater the potential for world public opinion to swing against it, with diplomatic pressure building for a cessation.

Its presentational problems would be hugely increased if it engaged in a ground operation, which would bring with it more pictures of death and destruction.

Update: several readers have e-mailed to ask whether I believe Hamas. One said I had "bought into" Hamas propaganda. Another that I should have dealt with Hamas' claims: "What's missing speaks volumes about your one-sidedness."

I do not believe anyone's "propaganda." We seek to verify all claims, from whatever source. One of the main claims in Gaza at the moment is the serious situation for the population. Having reported from Gaza many times over the years, I know how crowded parts of it are and how dependent the people are on food aid from the UN. This means they have no other source of supply but equally, if the system is working, they should be getting enough to get by on. The problem is that foreign correspondents cannot get in to establish the exact situation for themselves.

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[FONT=&quot]Al-Sudais asks Muslims to rally behind Palestinians[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]MAKKAH: In his Friday speech yesterday, Imam of the Grand Mosque Sheikh Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais appealed to international bodies to take steps to ensure an immediate cease-fire in Gaza and condemned state-sponsored terrorism against innocent people.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“On behalf of all Muslims in the world we call on the international community and other organizations to immediately stop this Zionist terrorism,” Al-Sudais said.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]He further urged all Muslim countries to rally behind the Palestinians and offer them help.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Addressing the Palestinians, he said, “Brothers in faith, be optimistic, you will be victorious with the help of Allah. Dawn breaks after the darkness of the night. Relief will come after the misery,” he said. Quoting a verse from the Holy Qur’an, he said, “So lose not heart, nor fall into despair, for you will gain mastery if you are true in faith.” [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]He added that the Prophet [/FONT][FONT=&quot](peace be upon him)[/FONT][FONT=&quot] asked the believers to be patient and optimistic at times of hardships. “The great prophets of Islam achieved their goals against all odds with their optimism, hope, patience, strong faith and prayers.” [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]He told the people of Gaza that the Hijrah new year, which began on Dec. 28, was the right occasion to keep their hopes alive. “Let us begin the new year of the Hijrah calendar hoping for good news because the blessed Hijrah of the Prophet [/FONT][FONT=&quot](peace be upon him)[/FONT][FONT=&quot] inspired the succeeding generations with optimism and hope for great achievements,”[/FONT][FONT=&quot] he said.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]He also underscored the significance of Muharram, the first month of the new year. “It was in Muharram that Allah’s Messenger Musa [/FONT][FONT=&quot](peace be upon him)[/FONT][FONT=&quot] achieved victory over the mighty tyrant Pharaoh,”[/FONT][FONT=&quot] he said. He also commended the efforts of the Saudi government and people to help Gazans.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In his sermon at the Prophet’s Mosque in Madinah, Sheikh Salah Al-Budair expresses grief over the pitiable state of Muslims in Palestine where people are being massacred, buildings destroyed and lands grabbed by Israel.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]He stressed the need for greater unity and mutual support and called on the believers to offer all possible assistance to the people of Gaza. “Is it befitting to the Muslims, who are the largest in the world in terms of population and richest in resources, to throw their brethren to the mercy of a bunch of wolfish Jews?” Sheikh Al-Budair said, adding that the “world is being ruled by a jungle law.” He told the Muslims to unite because “it is the duty of people of Islam to strengthen themselves with mutual support so that they can protect their land, holy places and religion particularly at times of calamities and disasters.” [/FONT]

 
Defiant Hamas

An undaunted Hamas, however, has vowed to fight back and defeat the Israeli forces. A spokesman for Ezzedine al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of the Hamas, told Al Jazeera on Sunday that Israeli troops faced death or capture.

"The battle has just started and the enemy should endure the consequences and results. They should be ready for the bad news coming from the Gaza Strip," Abu Obeida, a spokesman, said.

Hamas said it had captured two Israeli soldiers but the Israeli army denied that.

While the UN secretary-general called for an immediate end to the operations, the Security Council failed to agree on a resolution calling for a ceasefire after an emergency meeting.

Al Jazeera's Sherine Tadros, reporting from the Shifa hospital in Gaza, said doctors were struggling to cope amid low supplies and the rising number of wounded.

She said the scene was chaotic, with doctors treating the injured on the floor.

In the Gaza Strip, heavy artillery, tracer fire and rockets could be heard while reports said Israeli troops had reached the northern towns of Beit Lahiya and Beit Hanoun.

Palestinian witnesses said Israeli forces have cut the territory in half and were ringing Gaza City itself.

Fierce fighting

Soldiers and fighters were also locked in gun battles east of the Hamas stronghold of Zeitoun.

Ayman Mohyeldin, Al Jazeera's correspondent reporting from Gaza City, said: "Perhaps the most significant military development on the ground is that Gaza has now actually been split into two.

"A column of Israeli tanks and artillery, and armoured personnel vehicles has made its way through from the eastern part of Gaza, reaching as far as the Mediterrannean sea on the Western part, essentially splitting Gaza.

"That area, mostly in the former settlement of Nitzerim, it was an open area after Israel withdrew the settlement, so they were able to make strong advances all the way across Gaza, essentially cutting off the northern part from the southern part."

Mohyeldin said that the scene in Gaza was one of "fear and terror".

Witnesses in eastern Gaza told Al Jazeera that soldiers have begun house to house operations, moving from building to building. They have also taken positions on top of many of the rooftops in that area.

Al Jazeera's Jacky Rowland, reporting from the Israeli side of the border, said the authorities there have been extremely tight-lipped about the operation.

However, the military has confirmed that at least 30 soldiers have been wounded in the fight so far, two of them seriously.

In initial clashes, Israeli ground forces killed eight Gazans, five of them fighters.

Four Palestinians were killed when a house was struck by an Israeli missile in Rafah, medics and residents said.

Humanitarian crisis

Israel, meanwhile, extended its naval blockade of Gaza early on Sunday, from six nautical miles to 20 nautical miles, preventing humanitarian aid and protest vessels from trying to break the siege.

It also captured the Hamas-affiliated Al Aqsa TV and has been broadcasting messages telling Hamas leaders to give themselves up.

Around 9,000 military reservists have been called up to assist in the ground assault.

Ehud Barak, Israel's defence minister, said that the operation was aimed at forcing Hamas "to stop its hostile activities against Israel and bring about significant change".

"The operation will be expanded and intensified as much as necessary," Barak said on Sunday. "War is not a picnic."

Mark Regev, an Israeli government spokesman, told Al Jazeera that the "single aim" of the offensive was to halt Hamas rocket attacks into Israeli territory.

"Ultimately Hamas is solely responsible for this crisis and today they are paying a price for that," he said.

Al Jazeera's Mohyeldin reported that power lines have been cut throughout the Gaza Strip and more than 250,000 people in the northern part of the territory were without electricity.

"The biggest concern is a ground invasion could result in urban warfare," he said.

Fears of a humanitarian crisis have also grown in recent days, as the strip, home to 1.5 million people, is already suffering shortages of fuel, food and medical supplies due to a two-year economic blockade imposed by Israel.

The International Committee for the Red Cross said on Sunday its medical emergency team had been prevented for a third day from entering the territory.

The UN has warned that there were "critical gaps" in aid reaching Gaza, despite claims from Tzipi Livni, the Israeli foreign minister, that there was no crisis and that aid was getting through.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/200914124615647308.html
 

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