Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum

I have to agree with those that believe a "memorial" would have been more productive, accurate, and respectful. If someone wants to be concerned with a real genocide, look at Darfur. The Palestinians are a refugee people, many by their own design, some not. While I don't wish to downplay the suffering of innocent Palestinians, coining the situation a "holocaust" is simply dramatic license, and does more harm than good.
 
Muslim Woman said:
lol how many should die to make it a holocaust ?
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Good question but has no answer.The UN's 'official discribtion' says "a group of people" or somethink like that...

Holocaust is the special name of the Jewish genocide..but it's all up to us to decide whether the alestinian one is a genocide or 'simply' a persecution...I call it state terrorism
 
Muslim Woman said:
lol how many should die to make it a holocaust ?
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No 'how many' is involved. The dictionary definition of the word 'holocaust' is "complete destruction, usually by fire". In this context it has another meaning; the attempted extermination of the Jews by the Nazis. There are no "a" holocausts, just the holocaust. The Palestinian conflict is not "a holocaust". Neither is that in Darfur. Nor were Rwanda or Cambodia, just to name two. That makes no judgement on how 'bad' those events were.. all were (are) terrible events and appalling human tragedies.

The problem is not just sloppy use of language. It is a deliberate distortion of that language to make a political (not a humanitarian) point (can you provide a link to the "Darfur holocaust memorial museum" please?). It is using dead children for that purpose. Use of the word 'holocaust' turns the museum from a memorial into propaganda. As I said, it insults the dead of both conflicts.
 
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[/FONT]The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians

Researched and curated by Michael Hoffman



Photo Gallery: Israeli Child Murder Documented


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The world perpetually mourns the death of one Jewish child at the hands of the Nazis, Anne Frank.







She is commemorated in several books, eight separate movies and documentaries (including one now in production by Steven Spielberg) and countless shrines and museums.






Will the thousands of Arab children who have been slaughtered by the Israelis since 1948 be remembered by the West with a single memorial, or will the memory of the atrocities against these "un-Chosen" people be extinguished?





Let this webpage stand in testimony until such time as the conscience of the West can be awakened from its Jewish supremacist slumber, and commemorate all the victims of all the holocausts, including those perpetrated by Jews.







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Michael Hoffman, October 2000​


http://www.revisionisthistory.org/palestine29.html
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That would be the same Michael Hoffman who believes there were no gas chambers and that 6 million or so Jews died of typhus, or similar, would it? :rollseyes

Let this webpage stand in testimony until such time as the conscience of the West can be awakened from its Jewish supremacist slumber
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I rest my case.
 
You can call it "holocaust" if only Israel exterminate palestinians. But then palestinians kills each other how you can say that Israel doing extermination?
 
It's shame what you Muslims are doing, later you claim you are being chased in Europe for no reason? If you wouldn't act like that (Supporting your Muslims brothers, no matter what they do) you might not be hated and had movies like Fitna released.

From 1968 (Since Palestinians exist) 10,000 Palestinians died, and approximately over 50% of them were terrorist. Now the Palestinians claim only the minority are terrorists, lower than 5%, so if that the Palestinian sources aren't lying (OMG WHY WOULD THEY DO IT?), the Israeli achievement is amazing, considering that the BRAVE Hamas which "Protects" the Palestinians by hiding between them, and shooting Qassams from Kindergartens, Schools and Hospitals. Palestinians propaganda at it's best.
 
TheAtheist said:
From 1968 (Since Palestinians exist) 10,000 Palestinians died, and approximately over 50% of them were terrorist..
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Dude, what are you smoking?

edit- oh, wait, i know. It's one of those propaganda joints, yeah? They kill brain cells, be careful..
 
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What am i smoking? The arab league declared the Palestinian people as a Nation as a propaganda, that they could use in the future, it's working, aint it? Don't tell me you didnt know that. Maybe someone put that Propaganda joints in your Nargilas. Anyway, i wont argue about it cuz it's tiring.

But the fact that Hamas is shooting and fighting only from civilized places, is unarguable, proved, and not only proved, they are proud of themselves for doing it. if they were really "brave defenders" they would get away from the "innocent" Palestinians.

Pff. Calling it a holocaust, that's that most degraded thing ive ever heard, even more degradefull than smuggling weapons in Ambulances. What ? you never heard of that too?

The problem with you Muslims is that you are too one sided.
 
Theatheist:

Hi and welcome to the forums.
The palastinian "Insurgents" fight from built up areas for several reasons.
1)Thats where Israeli forces are concentrated
2)If they were to dress up in uniforms and try to shoot it out with the IDF they would lose. Several Arab armies could explain this to them in detail.

What is the proportion of Civilians to gunmen killed? You dont know. I dont know, Nobody on this board knows. 50% is just a figure pulled from your head. If you said 45.3% then i'd ask for scources, but 50% ....? Nahh, i'll say thats just your feelings rather than fact.

I do know this. If Israel was committing genocide, and trying to kill innocents , they wouldnt fire the occasional guided missile at identified Hamas Leadership targets in cars. They would carpet bomb the palastinian territory to dust in a continual wave of High Explosive using their 700 combat aircraft in twenty four hour raids seven days a week.

Despite the claims of the Palastinians, the IDF hasnt wiped them out and isnt trying to. If it wanted to , it could.

Now on the other hand, how are the palastinian "militia" attacking? Well simply by lobbing rockets at settlements. These are civilian outposts. No soldiers in them. Slaughtering Bar Mitzvas? Check, Shooting up schoolbuses? Check, Firing assault rifles into school classes? Check.

One thing the Jews never managed was a Jewish resistance to the real Holocaust, excepting the Warsaw uprising. In that battle, they wore arm bands and fought the german army in intense FIBUA conflict. They diddnt strap bombs onto their bellies and run into a german civilians wedding in Munich screaming religious devotion as they painted the cake with blood.

Meanwhile of course RAF Bomber command was killing 7000 a night carpet bombing citys. Now THAT is genocide.

Palastine, Isreal is far, far more capable than bomber command ever was. Try shutting off the suicide bombs and stones for a bit. Just a couple of years. Try talking. The wedding bombs dont seem to work very well. Strange really.
 
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The Israeli Holocaust Against Arab Children

THE WORLD MUST KNOW!


Children have been shot in other conflicts I have covered--

death squads gunned them down in El Salvador and Guatemala, mothers with infants were lined up and massacred in Algeria, and Serb snipers put children in their sights...in Sarajevo--

but I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport,"

Hedges wrote. His account, coolly factual yet full of passionate intensity, was written not for his own paper but for Harper's Magazine, which sent Hedges to Gaza on his vacation."

The Nation, March 11, 2002


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Israeli soldiers shot this eight-year-old Palestinian girl, Sabreen Abu Sneineh, in the head, in Hebron, Aug. 12, 2001

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/palestine46.html
 
TheAtheist- Everything you said I could just flip around and apply to you. But like you said, it's too tiring to argue.

Oh, also, I came across this very interesting site yesterday.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org
 
Barney, i'll reply to you in few days because i'm in a hurry and because i'm going out of state.

Crayon -
i came across with very interesting site few days ago too -
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if you consider your site legitimate, so is this one
 
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My own level of sympathy for the Palestinains has gone up and down over the years.

When they use violence I have no sympathy for them.

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