Palestinians blow up border wall

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It means a lot to me. ITS NOT BLACK AND WHITE!

What's the endgame for the Palestinians (the innocent ones) here? They have to endure being pawns for both Hamas, Fatah and the pro-Israel faction.

I truly don't think the well fed, well fueled Hamas militants who broke this wall down give a **** about these people. If they did they would stop firing missles into Israel, giving the Israeli military the free license to kill additional Palestinians (mostly innocent might I add).

You know what, I just realized there is no endgame. This is it. Hamas in their well stocked bunkers and the israeli military pushing buttons, while the future collateral damage contine to scramble to feed themselves and hope for a better future for their kids, which will never happen.

Great job all around. Everyone.
 
It means a lot to me. ITS NOT BLACK AND WHITE!
No, it is not, you'll have to wait or die waiting..

What's the endgame for the Palestinians (the innocent ones) here? They have to endure being pawns for both Hamas, Fatah and the pro-Israel faction.
I think they are more pawns to random Israeli raids on their home than their own folks
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0[/media]

I truly don't think the well fed, well fueled Hamas militants who broke this wall down give a **** about these people. If they did they would stop firing missles into Israel, giving the Israeli military the free license to kill additional Palestinians (mostly innocent might I add).
you've spent a day with a militant from Hamas to know how well fed they are, and whether or not they are firing over something the benevolent Israel doesn't want you to see?

You know what, I just realized there is no endgame. This is it. Hamas in their well stocked bunkers and the israeli military pushing buttons, while the future collateral damage contine to scramble to feed themselves and hope for a better future for their kids, which will never happen.
Great job all around. Everyone.

Now you are on to something, it won't end until it ends!


cheers
 
Hamas should seriusly do something, bomb Israel even more, Hezbollah should attack from north and help Hamas.

HAMAS is qualified to deal with beasts of the Middle East, why to drag Hezbollah into this matter? What kind of support, peculiar to this situation, do you expect from them?
 
Then I'm sure it'll end very well for all.
 
It means a lot to me. ITS NOT BLACK AND WHITE!

What's the endgame for the Palestinians (the innocent ones) here? They have to endure being pawns for both Hamas, Fatah and the pro-Israel faction.

I truly don't think the well fed, well fueled Hamas militants who broke this wall down give a **** about these people. If they did they would stop firing missles into Israel, giving the Israeli military the free license to kill additional Palestinians (mostly innocent might I add).

You know what, I just realized there is no endgame. This is it. Hamas in their well stocked bunkers and the israeli military pushing buttons, while the future collateral damage contine to scramble to feed themselves and hope for a better future for their kids, which will never happen.

Great job all around. Everyone.


precisely.:)

thanks for that.
 
It means a lot to me. ITS NOT BLACK AND WHITE!

What's the endgame for the Palestinians (the innocent ones) here? They have to endure being pawns for both Hamas, Fatah and the pro-Israel faction.

I truly don't think the well fed, well fueled Hamas militants who broke this wall down give a **** about these people. If they did they would stop firing missles into Israel, giving the Israeli military the free license to kill additional Palestinians (mostly innocent might I add).

You know what, I just realized there is no endgame. This is it. Hamas in their well stocked bunkers and the israeli military pushing buttons, while the future collateral damage contine to scramble to feed themselves and hope for a better future for their kids, which will never happen.

Great job all around. Everyone.

Excellent job. We have all the hate mungers running around calling there group heroes when both sides are terrorists in there own way.

You killed our innocents so we will kill your innocents then the other comes back and kills more innocents which then calls for killing more innocents on the other side. It just goes back and forth with no end. Each being determined to kill the last group of innocents.

And the hate mongers just want it to go on and on and destroy another generation.
 
Excellent job. We have all the hate mungers running around calling there group heroes when both sides are terrorists in there own way.

You killed our innocents so we will kill your innocents then the other comes back and kills more innocents which then calls for killing more innocents on the other side. It just goes back and forth with no end. Each being determined to kill the last group of innocents.

And the hate mongers just want it to go on and on and destroy another generation.

Peace Wilber,

Hate and Fear are very powerful motivators. It is a vicious cycle. Often the original cause is lost and it becomes of no importance as to who cast the first stone. the stone was cast and it continues to bounce back and forth, with each pass growing stronger and more vigorous.

The solution is simple. The external forces that are profiting from this carnage need to be stopped. The problem is in identifying just who it is that is profiting. Fingers point and say it is the USA that is profiting. Yet, it has proven to be a debit since 1947. People point and say it is the Jews who are profiting, yet Judaism is declining in Israel as more of the population ceases to practice Judaism and become more secular. Other People point and say the Palestinians are profiting, but they have been loosing, freedoms, lives and property daily.

The ones who profit are the munitions makers.

I doubt that this was anything planned. It is a rule of economics if a want is seen and a profit can be made from it, somebody will produce a product to fill this need. The very same people that sell the Israelis the raw products to build their military are most likely the same people that sell the Palestinians and Palestinian supporters missiles and explosive components.

People are dying and some very wealthy entity is sitting back watching a fireworks display and seeing more money as each rocket and bomb is fired, making a profit, both ways. Getting rich if Palestinians Kill Jews and getting rich if Jews kill Palestinians. A long term money generator that will last until somehow peace comes to the land.

Somebody is sitting safely in a fortified ivory tower laughing at each death Palestinian or Jew and rubbing his hands with glee at the sound of gun fire and explosions, knowing that is the sound of new sales and more money.
 
I would like to thank all the Palestinian militants for undermining all the pressure that like minded people in the West would like to put on Israel, but can't due to the justification they provide the hawks in Israel."

The way I see it, this just gives Hamas the justification of bombing Israel even harder.

What do you want!? Do you want the palestinians to recognize israel, and live in peace with them after all what they have done to the palestinians?
After all the torturing, killing and bombing of palestine? After all the robbing of their homes? Do you want the palestinians to recognize Israel after all that?

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"Excellent job. We have all the hate mungers running around calling there group heroes when both sides are terrorists in there own way."

Please explain to me in what way it is that Hamas is killing innocent civilians, because I have never heard of Hamas killing civilians.

"It just goes back and forth with no end. Each being determined to kill the last group of innocents."

how can you call israelis civilians? If someone stole your house and lived inside it, would you think of the man inside as a civilian?

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HAMAS is qualified to deal with beasts of the Middle East, why to drag Hezbollah into this matter? What kind of support, peculiar to this situation, do you expect from them?

Muslims are supposed to help each other, Hezbollah can help alot, but then again; I dont think that they would want a new war against israel, well they do but Lebanon does not.

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Somebody is sitting safely in a fortified ivory tower laughing at each death Palestinian or Jew and rubbing his hands with glee at the sound of gun fire and explosions, knowing that is the sound of new sales and more money.

How one earth could a palestinian make a wealth out of this war? This has nothing to do with money, at least not on the palestinian side and I doubt that it has on the Israeli.
 
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Peace Wilber,

Hate and Fear are very powerful motivators. It is a vicious cycle. Often the original cause is lost and it becomes of no importance as to who cast the first stone. the stone was cast and it continues to bounce back and forth, with each pass growing stronger and more vigorous.

The solution is simple. The external forces that are profiting from this carnage need to be stopped. The problem is in identifying just who it is that is profiting. Fingers point and say it is the USA that is profiting. Yet, it has proven to be a debit since 1947. People point and say it is the Jews who are profiting, yet Judaism is declining in Israel as more of the population ceases to practice Judaism and become more secular. Other People point and say the Palestinians are profiting, but they have been loosing, freedoms, lives and property daily.

The ones who profit are the munitions makers.

I doubt that this was anything planned. It is a rule of economics if a want is seen and a profit can be made from it, somebody will produce a product to fill this need. The very same people that sell the Israelis the raw products to build their military are most likely the same people that sell the Palestinians and Palestinian supporters missiles and explosive components.

People are dying and some very wealthy entity is sitting back watching a fireworks display and seeing more money as each rocket and bomb is fired, making a profit, both ways. Getting rich if Palestinians Kill Jews and getting rich if Jews kill Palestinians. A long term money generator that will last until somehow peace comes to the land.

Somebody is sitting safely in a fortified ivory tower laughing at each death Palestinian or Jew and rubbing his hands with glee at the sound of gun fire and explosions, knowing that is the sound of new sales and more money.

so ur saying it is merely the sheer love and urge for money which drives this 'war'?

thats ur central message rite? just checking...
 
You know, there is a Christian group trying to breed a red heifer (calf) because it is mentioned in a Biblical prophesy as a portend to the Rapture.

Does this strike anyone else as silly? Not that a red heifer wouldn't be a cool thing to see, but, honestly, if some of this stuff rhymed it could be in a Dr Seuss book.

If you ask me, there is some equal silliness afoot on the Muslim side.

We have violent groups advocating or excusing violence precisely because it is mentioned in prophetic statements. I cannot understand why a loving God would induce his creatures to kill one another so they could all be saved and go to Heaven.

I think I will try to lead a moral life and help those less fortunate. If I am sometimes blunt with someone on the web..well..they are usually leftists or advocate the destruction of my neighbors..that can be excused, I think.

One fish, two fish
Red fish, blue fish.......
 
Muslims are only fighting for freedom and justice.

Hamas and any other organisation, be it al-Qaida or Fatah, have never killed in the name of God.

They fight for justice and freedom which is the duty of every muslim and human.
 
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Muslims are only fighting for freedom and justice.

Hamas and any other organisation, be it al-Qaida or Fatah, have never killed in the name of God.

They fight for justice and freedom which is the duty of every muslim and human.

:giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling::giggling:

Well I really shouldn't do that. There is nothing funny when people deny the obvious.

It is nice to think you can rap up any group and put a nice bow on it.

The reality of group dynamics will show much diversity.
 
Woodrow,
I do think you have a small peace of the puzzle but I think the big peace is still hate.

There are many like K6 that use there hate to ignore that there between two and two thousand sides to this situation.
They want there side to keep up the killing till there is victory.
They ignore the fact that 60 years of killing has only destroyed generations.

Maybe it is just the evil side of me, but I want peace.
:peace:
Wilber
 
The bigger piece is this

zionist want all of the palestine and kick or every single palestinian out

palestinians are doing what they can to survive

evengical christians are siding with zionists in order to speed up the return of jesus.

Jesus wont' come till zionist temple is built, which zionists are working on with so many underground tunnels they have dug up in hopes of collapsing the masjid aqsa. In part of their schemes, they show the Golden dome masjid whenever they mention aqsa to fool people. They have all the preparations made and just waiting to build their temple.

evangical christians want to help zionist do all this so they can have jesus return soon and so they can wage their holy war on the world with jesus and wipe out everyone but christians.

Which is why zionist is a welfare state that gets more aid money from US then ALL of africa combined. zionist also gets all its military weapons and power from US to oppress and massacre palestinians and lebanoese in order to make greater israel.

So quite clearly US and Israel are the thorns and culprits in this chaos.
 
The bigger piece is this

zionist want all of the palestine and kick or every single palestinian out

palestinians are doing what they can to survive

evengical christians are siding with zionists in order to speed up the return of jesus.

Jesus wont' come till zionist temple is built, which zionists are working on with so many underground tunnels they have dug up in hopes of collapsing the masjid aqsa. In part of their schemes, they show the Golden dome masjid whenever they mention aqsa to fool people. They have all the preparations made and just waiting to build their temple.

evangical christians want to help zionist do all this so they can have jesus return soon and so they can wage their holy war on the world with jesus and wipe out everyone but christians.

Which is why zionist is a welfare state that gets more aid money from US then ALL of africa combined. zionist also gets all its military weapons and power from US to oppress and massacre palestinians and lebanoese in order to make greater israel.

So quite clearly US and Israel are the thorns and culprits in this chaos.

that is saying it, like it actually is...
The Jews await their Mosciach but instead of following the commandments until he leads them back to their promised land if indeed they were the ones promised it, they go ahead and build their debauched secular state, like God is not going to have choice in the matter (we are here God), and using the christians whom they deem as idolators for worshipping not only a false prophet but exalting him to God status.. while the Chrisians await their republican Jesus to descend down on a silver cloud for a deliscious rapture where he will rule for a thousand years and they'll all leave everything behind to ascend to heaven's pearly gates.. the whole thing is bloody hilarious when you think about it..It is a perfect marriage between the both of them.. but do tell me then in their midst, who are the meek that are left to inherit the earth?

says,
﴿وَلَقَدْ كَتَبْنَا فِي ٱلزَّبُورِ مِن بَعْدِ ٱلذِّكْرِ أَنَّ ٱلأَرْضَ يَرِثُهَا عِبَادِيَ
ٱلصَّالِحُونَ﴾
“And We have already written in the book (of Psalms, the scriptures) after
the (previous) mention (Torah) that the land is inherited by My righteous
servants.” (al-Anbiyaa’: 105)

﴿إِنَّ ٱلأَرْضَ للَّهِ يُورِثُهَا مَن يَشَآءُ مِنْ عِبَادِهِ وَٱلْعَاقِبَةُ لِلْمُتَّقِينَ﴾​
The earth belongs to Allah and He will inherit it to whomever He wills of
His servants but eventually the earth will be inherited by the Muttaqeen
(pious). (al-‘Araaf: 128)

:w:
 
Well I really shouldn't do that. There is nothing funny when people deny the obvious.

It is nice to think you can rap up any group and put a nice bow on it.

The reality of group dynamics will show much diversity.

Deny the obvious!?

You clearly dont know anything about Hamas or al-Qaida or the so called "terrorism". The way you see it, Bin Laden is killing "civilians" but you refuse to go behind the media and find out why it is that he is doing what he is doing.

There are many like K6 that use there hate to ignore that there between two and two thousand sides to this situation.

Give me one that I dont know about. There's two sides of this sittuation and I know both, you on the other hand dont seem to know either of them.

They want there side to keep up the killing till there is victory.
They ignore the fact that 60 years of killing has only destroyed generations.


The way I see it they attacked us, killed us and robbed us. In order to return to our homes we must kill those who harm us and those who prevent us from doing so.

Those same people who died chose to die, they chose to fight back against the zionists, they risked their own lives in order to save the lives of their children, and their children are now risking their own lives in order to return to the lands of where their parents died.
 
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