Palestinians/Formation of Israel

[King Solomon]

and the Philistines (who are Grecian) predates the Caanites my point is what does it matter? Everyone can make claims to the land.

 

[Chiteng]

As far as I know:

In 1948 the 'Grand Mufti of Jerusalem' issued an order that all Palestinians
evacuate the territories under dispute, under pain of death.

The 'idea' was that the civilians were hampering military operations.

However, the civilians that refused to leave, were liable to be killed
if discovered. Some indeed WERE.

That is a very unpleasant choice.

 

[SATalha]

It is simple just read this:

Israel's enemies would like to portray Israel as a recent contaminant, an intruder among long-established countries with settled borders and governments. Reality is far different. Civilizations of the Middle East, including the Jews, were consecutively conquered by Persians, Romans, Arabs, Turks and then the Portuguese, French and English. The grip of English and French colonialism was only released after the world wars of the 20th century.

All of these Islamic rules countries are knew.

I mean come on how old is Jordan?!?

Islam conquered a lot of countries from other Nations, they are occupying them as well right? Why don't they return the land....

Not only that but the Jewish people have been in Israel before Islam itself was created!!!!

Mate so where the Palestinians!

 

[AHMED_GUREY]

and the Philistines (who are Grecian) predates the Caanites

they invaded ''Canaan'' therefore it's a non sequitur to claim they pre-date it since most definitly the culture and language the Philistines adopted from the Canaanites didn't spring up the same morning of the invasion

Mizrahi Jews and Palistinians are the true descendants of the Ancient groups that lived in that region

therefore a two state solution is the best way to go!

my point is what does it matter? Everyone can make claims to the land.

see above!

 

[skhalid]

I have some questions for those of you who feel that Israel is occupying Palestinian land:

1. Why do feel Palestinians have claim to Israel?

2. Do you feel that Palestinians voluntarily fled Palestine or were driven out by Israeli force, during the formation of Israel?

If it is their land then even if someone enters there territory it will remain thier land..so what people call 'invaders' as in the people who moved there or migrated...that land is not theirs and so if they are told to leave then they will have to..no buts...I know it is rather sad for those who are born there to leave...where are they suppose to go?? If they don't have families else where..if they have made there living there...but I suppose nothing can be done about that nowadays!!!
CONFUSED????? well I ent finished yet lol
I think that many palestinians were forced to leave... sad really..but as I have said..if they have no where else to go...what are they suppose to do?? they will protest to remain there...although the one with the most power always win...most of the time anyways!!!:X

 

[ManchesterFolk]

they invaded ''Canaan'' therefore it's a non sequitur to claim they pre-date it since most definitly the culture and language the Philistines adopted from the Canaanites didn't spring up the same morning of the invasion

Mizrahi Jews and Palistinians are the true descendants of the Ancient groups that lived in that region

therefore a two state solution is the best way to go!



see above!

Actually,the Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians" are not related historically to the Philistines.The original Philistines were of Greek extraction,as is evidenced in their weapons of war(found on coinage), their pottery,jewelry,culture and,above all,language. They arrived in Israel,after first being repelled from Egypt.

They were called "Philistines", which derives from the Hebrew, meaning invader, thief, usurper, foreigner. They were destroyed mostly under king David, and disappeared from history. As for the arab linkage to the Philistines, after which was refuted time and time again by archaeology etc, IOdd that the arabs identify themselves as "Philistines"(foreigners).

 

[AHMED_GUREY]

Actually,the Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians" are not related historically to the Philistines.The original Philistines were of Greek extraction,as is evidenced in their weapons of war(found on coinage), their pottery,jewelry,culture and,above all,language. They arrived in Israel,after first being repelled from Egypt.

the Philistines were a Indo-european people but the Canaanites were not and they spoke a semetic language, their culture was adopted after they were conquered by the Philistines therefore they don't pre-date the proto-Palistinians since they were there since 3000 BC and the invasion by the Philistines occurred in the second millenium BC

 

[ManchesterFolk]

the Philistines were a Indo-european people but the Canaanites were not and they spoke a semetic language, their culture was adopted after they were conquered by the Philistines therefore they don't pre-date the proto-Palistinians since they were there since 3000 BC and the invasion by the Philistines occurred in the second millenium BC

First it seems very odd to argue this, because so many lands different nations have conquered that if you really want to get into this game of returning what belongs to who you will never suceed. Muslims to have conquered kingdoms.

Anyway: Canaan itself was a "Bronze Age culture and country in what is now Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, Jordan, and the southern portions of Syria and Lebanon; first occupied about 3300 BC, evidence shows occupation of the vicinity up to 550 BC, including a 300 year period of Egyptian rule." 3

Canaanites, in the Old Testament, original inhabitants of the land of Canaan. According to the Book of Judges, the Israelites, during the 2nd millennium BC or earlier, gradually subjugated the Canaanite cities. By the end of the reign of Solomon, king of Israel, the Canaanites had virtually been assimilated into the Hebrew people, among whom they appear to have exerted a reactionary religious influence.5

References
1. MSN encarta encyclopedia - http://encarta.msn.com/
2. http://www.encyclopedia.com
3. http://www.encyclopedia.com
4.http://www.encarta.msn.com
5. about.com - http://archaeology.about.com/science/archaeology/library/glossary/bldef_canaan.htm
6.MSN encarta encyclopedia - http://encarta.msn.com/

 

[AHMED_GUREY]

First it seems very odd to argue this, because so many lands different nations have conquered that if you really want to get into this game of returning what belongs to who you will never suceed. Muslims to have conquered kingdoms.

If you had read my replies to King Solomon you would have processed my two cents and that was ''Israel should return to it's pre-war borders, evacuate the groups that are trying to illigally settle there and the International community should recognise Palistine as a sovereign state''