Palestinians win implicit UN recognition

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Inquilaab said:
Why are you being so pedantic? Within England lies the central government for the UK, so it's understood that England means the UK, especially in international discussions such as this; as much as 'Washington' is used to mean the US in official news reports.
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It is a matter of disliking content and the person who brought it to the discussion. What is the best way to deflect save to point out that my shoes don't match my shirt? In other words a personal issue for him no more no less..
Jazaka Allah khyran though!

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Inquilaab said:
Why are you being so pedantic? Within England lies the central government for the UK, so it's understood that England means the UK, especially in international discussions such as this; as much as 'Washington' is used to mean the US in official news reports.
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The fact that 'England' is misused as a term for the UK annoys many, many people. England itself has no foreign relations and no diplomats.

The UK equivalent term to 'Washington' would be 'Westminster', as you presumably know.
 
Inquilaab said:
Oh does it now? I've personally never lost any sleep over it. But maybe you have!
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You live in England and you don't know this? Astonishing.

In fact, there are several million people in Scotland who feel strongly enough about not being called England that they will soon be voting on independence for Scotland.

So yes, I'd say it was a big issue.
 
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Independent said:
You live in England and you don't know this? Astonishing.
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Quick alert the Guardian for this egregious misnomer:

[h=1]Britain ready to back Palestinian statehood at UN[/h]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/27/uk-ready-to-back-palestine-statehood

I hope at some stage you realize what it means to be in a losing battle and go out with some grace rather than persist in folly!

best,
 
شَادِنُ;1555091 said:
Quick alert the Guardian for this egregious misnomer:

Britain ready to back Palestinian statehood at UN
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What are you talking about? It's not a misnomer. 'Britain' is another acceptable term for the UK. It also refers to the combined 4 territories. Please, just look it up and sort it out for yourself.
 
Independent said:
What are you talking about? It's not a misnomer. 'Britain' is another acceptable term for the UK. It also refers to the combined 4 territories. Please, just look it up and sort it out for yourself.
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Oh you mean in this case there shouldn't be an accompaniment of 'Great' nor 'United' just we're all on the same page and having that deeper understanding of how far and wide this empire reaches- this one is a given? bwahahaha ;D
 
شَادِنُ;1555095 said:
Oh you mean in this case there shouldn't be an accompaniment of 'Great'
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No, because Great Britain is a geographical term referring to the land mass which includes England, Wales and Scotland but not the separate island of Ireland. Britain is a political term which refers to the combined territories of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland but not the Republic of Ireland.

OK, I have to go and watch some paint dry now
 
Ukhti, the Brits are masters in pedantry, especially when it comes to British terms etc! lol I'm sure you know this by now. I'm guilty of participating in it myself, but I'm working on it :P

Also, if anyone asks "Great Britain" refers to the geographical area of England, Wales & Scotland and is the largest of the British isles! Keep this information safe. You may need it one day :p
 
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Inquilaab said:
Ukhti, the Brits are masters in pedantry, especially when it comes to British terms etc! lol I'm sure you know this by now. I'm guilty of participating in it myself, but I'm working on it :P
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I am familiar with this particular fellow' sophistry especially with the threads dealing with freedom of speech and press- It is all very amusing at the end of the day..

Jazaka Allah khyran though - very few people put the time in what should indeed be ignored otherwise..

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Inquilaab said:
Why are you being so pedantic? Within England lies the central government for the UK, so it's understood that England means the UK, especially in international discussions such as this; as much as 'Washington' is used to mean the US in official news reports.
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I thought he was being ironic. We are talking about Palestine being recognized as a state or not. Then we mistook England for the UK, which goes to the non-England members of the UK's status as independent states, etc. I was surprised we didn't start launching into point by point comparisons between Hamas and the IRA. But then, as too often happens here, it became about the egos of the posters.
 
Inquilaab said:
Oh, and as regards to Canada opposing, here's the story: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/11/30/poli-canada-baird-palestine-united-nations.html
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Amongst other things that have got to be bugging the crap out of them is, Hamas can no longer be called a 'terrorist organization' Any sovereign nation has the right to defend itself and respond to attacks. It will no longer be the four of five bullies always siding with the biggest bully who by the way received a huge beating by a tiny strip that's cut off from the world. So imagine when they're tooting their horn threatening a war with Iran, threatening here and threatening there when they couldn't even manage a tiny strip of occupied space. Many blows for Israel and its poodles and in shaa Allah many more to come.. They can manage this kind of oppression for so long with everyone holding their hands or looking the other way. The only outlet left is media and emotional bullying. But everyone has a camera now and corporate media isn't where the world gets their news. Also where were they when Arafat made almost an 80% concessions and they still didn't like it. They only initiated the talks in 1994 and after they knew there would be no turning point to what they'd stolen!
The politics is changing rapidly in the ME. I know they're trying to contain it. Today's U.N assembly asking for U.N forces in Syria is to do just that. They didn't care that 30,000 syrians died to date, they loved that, they can condemn from afar. But now those rebels gaining momentum fast closing down most of their airfields and with huge success and not a care in the world as to who dies at this stage is the most threatening thing ever.
They have two options obviously, but one that involves troops coming in through Jordan which is already on fire can only spell disasters for American troops and will also involve a can of worms from which there's no recovery.. their only plan is to send U.N troops to keep the peace and ensure a similar regime to Asad's - we just have to watch and see as they scheme .. the people on the ground aren't the sort of army they want to gauge in a battle with, they don't respond to a sovereign (other than God that is) and have been roughing it for two years...
So yeah.. it has been a really long time but it is time for that hibernating lion to roar!
 
I wasn't the one to instigate it, but I agree... Mods: delete all irrelevant posts please!
 
Canada, US, Israel and a few other countries think they know better than 138 other countries what and what doesn't impede peace in the middle east!!
 

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