Paris Attacks

[syed_z]

That said, I am pleased to see so many Muslims here speaking against this kind of terrorism, and not trying to shift the focus to other tragedy. Yes, there are atrocities and suffering done against group A. That doesn't make atrocity and suffering of Group B any less important or terrible. We are all human. Try to see that, instead of dividing us and demonizing the other "side".

Our Beloved Messenger of Allah (saw) said " Help your brother if he is oppressed or oppressor." The Companions asked "O Messenger of Allah (Saw) we understand helping the oppressed but how can we help the oppressor?" To which He (saw) replied "by stopping him!"

InshA'Allah for the sake of Allah (swt) and all His creation we are never going to side with the Muslims who oppress regardless of how great they might claim to be or how pious they might look.

There are Muslim brothers and sisters here and out there who condemn this act because Allah (swt), Al Mighty God Himself defined the righteous ones in the Quran .."They Enjoin What is Good and Forbid What is Wrong and Believe in Allah.."

It is our sacred duty to do so. I hope and I pray that may Allah (swt) unite our hearts as one!

 

[Mr.President]

Summery - who ever lives under a government muslim or non muslim ISIS will terror attack you and call it retaliation libaration

They do not care that u r innocent its simply cuz u do not agree with them

 

[Physicist]

Summery - who ever lives under a government muslim or non muslim ISIS will terror attack you and call it retaliation libaration

They do not care that u r innocent its simply cuz u do not agree with them

Not sure even if they care if you are agree or disagree with what they are saying, because liers don't really care about their lies.
Well, blindfolded ordinary warriors may care, not those who command them.

 

[strivingobserver98]

Hmm... how come the media never reported this guy? "Muslim hero saves the Stade de France"

 

[strivingobserver98]

An insight from Hollywood writer Kamran Pasha! Indestructible passports :O. Why would the killers even take their passport with them?

In Hollywood, we sit around a writers rooms coming up with stories together. Inevitably we come across a logical stumbling block, such as: "OK, so the bad guy blows himself up, but we need the good guy to then track down his evil organization so that he can fight them in the climactic finale. How do we solve this problem?" Someone will pipe up: "He had his passport on him so we can then ID the bad guys!" Everyone says: "Yes! That's it!" And then there is always the one voice in the room (usually me) that will say: "Um, but wouldn't the passport be blown up in the explosion?" Silence for a few moments. And then the boss will say: "That is what we call an "asshole question." 99% of people won't think out the logic that far, and only an asshole would bring it up to ruin the story. Let's do it, and move on to the next episode."

 

[Ridwaan Ravat]

Please circulate

Wise advice from Br. Ismail Patel (FoA)

Some thoughts on Paris attacks

1. Attacking innocent civilians whether in Paris, London, Gaza or Syria etc is completely unjustified and unislamic.

2. As of yet we don't know who did the attacks and for what reason. Remember Anders Breivik, a Christian Norwegian rightwing nationalist, bombed and killed over 70 people mostly children. But sadly we can see many people including the media quickly jumping to conclusions as to who did it and why. We will see analysts and "experts" discuss the issue without any knowledge who will implicitly pin the blame on Islam and Muslims.

3. IF blamed on individual Muslims then such attacks will be used by western govts to deflect blame from their foreign and domestic policy towards the problem being inherent within Islam and the Muslim community. Hence they'll claim that Islam needs to change and Muslims must do more because they are "collectively culpable" in these attacks even though Muslims are unaware of who perpetrated and do not in anyway condone and support these attacks.

4. This will radicalise the wider non Muslim community who will then increase their attacks against Islam and Muslims particularly the most vulnerable members like lone travelling Muslim sisters or elderly Muslims.

5. This will also be used to further justify an aggressive foreign policy which will only exacerbate the anger and hate that creates the problem in the first place. This is due to the fact that further bombings and killings of civilian populations in Muslim lands will forment further anger.

6. Further laws will be implemented to monitor mosques, Madrassas and the wider Muslim community. This completely misses the problem which isn't born out of the mosques or the Muslim community. Just like Anders breivik wasn't born out of problems stemming from Sunday schools and singing hymns at church.

7. Muslims will be told to apologise and condemn as though they are guilty and culpable unless they've made it clear they don't support such criminal unislamic actions. Muslims will be told they "need to do more" to stop these attacks. No we didn't do this nor should we be blamed for the criminal actions of others. Nor should we be asked to apologise or questioned whether we agree or not with it. Such questions are offensive as they imply we somehow quietly acquiesce to such heinous crimes.

8. At difficult times like these holding onto Islam can become difficult. But we need to maintain our confidence on the deen and express that confidence to others. Remember we don't have anything to apologise for and our deen cannot be accused of any such crimes.

9. In fact western liberalism with its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan which has killed hundreds of thousands, and the wests unfailing support for some of the worst kind of dictators like sisi, should stand accused of establishing a system not fit to protect the innocent.

10. Finally we pray to Allah swt that he makes it easy for all of us and keep us protected from all evil, and may Allah protect our ulama, our masajid, madaaris our youth. Ameen

Ps as advise to myself and others be sensible in your response on social media and sensitive to the current reality and not allow certain ppl to twist your words.

 

[DanEdge]

Thanks to all of you who responded with passion, sympathy, and love of life.

Some were concerned about how this conversation would look to non-Muslims. For myself, I was impressed - both by the outpouring of humanitarian emotion and the intelligent minds engaged in the exchange of ideas.

I am American. You are NOT my enemy. But we have a common enemy: those who would kill innocents in your name. I have no tolerance for them, nor for others who would count you among them.

Where do we go from here?

--Dan Edge

 

[DanEdge]

want to share thiseace:

This post in particular was very inspiring. Muslims around the world condemn these kinds of attacks. Likewise, Westerners should acknowledge that racism and violence against Muslims is unacceptable. Possibly, we could all share the Earth in Peace?

--Dan Edge

 

[Leoprecordia]

As brother Farhan brought up, I'd like to discuss those passports. Why is it that terrorists always have the best passports? I mean, hell, they had passports stay intact even when the WTC collapsed on top of them. Now they're immune to direct bomb explosions too. I'd sure like to know what they use to make their passports out of.

 

[Physicist]

I see nothing conspirous about passports.
They are used to carry the passports with them, as any other foreign-looking persons, to have less problems if get stopped by the police.
The passport, i suppose can survive blast if will be on the other side of the body, the shock wave passing through the flesh will be mostly reflected from the surface (sorry for such details).
Passports should be damaged of course but can be readable i think.
Anyway the passport doesn't prove the identity as it was reported in media before that syrian passports were sold out in big numbers.

 

[sister herb]

As brother Farhan brought up, I'd like to discuss those passports. Why is it that terrorists always have the best passports? I mean, hell, they had passports stay intact even when the WTC collapsed on top of them. Now they're immune to direct bomb explosions too. I'd sure like to know what they use to make their passports out of.

I think they keep passports with them on purpose. They may even protect them well so they don´t destroy in explosion. That´s because they want to tell you who they are, so that they and their group will have the "honor" about the attack. It´s like further evidence, when some group have announced the responsibility.

Or to the conspiracy therories: secret agents have large variety of fake passports, which they leave beside of the body of attacker. Now they left Syrian passport (person had traveled via Greece): it gives one more excuse to bomb Syria and end refugee transportation via Greece to Europe.

But I don´t really believe to those conspiracy theories - they will born after every attack and only limit for them is our own imagination, without any evidencies.

 

[strivingobserver98]

As brother Farhan brought up, I'd like to discuss those passports. Why is it that terrorists always have the best passports? I mean, hell, they had passports stay intact even when the WTC collapsed on top of them. Now they're immune to direct bomb explosions too. I'd sure like to know what they use to make their passports out of.

Well.. this is a surprise

Paris attacks: Passport found near assailant 'may be fake'A Syrian passport found near one of the Paris attackers may be fake, according to a US intelligence official.

According to CBS News, a US intelligence official said the travel document did not contain the proper numbers for a Syrian passport and the name didn't match the photograph.

The name and photograph in the passport weren't known to intelligence officials, the source also said.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-11-15/paris-attacks-passport-found-near-assailant-may-be-fake/

 

[Abz2000]

Our Beloved Messenger of Allah (saw) said " Help your brother if he is oppressed or oppressor." The Companions asked "O Messenger of Allah (Saw) we understand helping the oppressed but how can we help the oppressor?" To which He (saw) replied "by stopping him!"

Did you stop the french government from its thousands of atrocities in the past few months?
The overt bombing campaign began in september.

InshA'Allah for the sake of Allah (swt) and all His creation we are never going to side with the Muslims who oppress regardless of how great they might claim to be or how pious they might look.

It is becoming evident that you prefer to side with the kuffar who oppress regardless if how evil and irrational they are.

There are Muslim brothers and sisters here and out there who condemn this act because Allah (swt), Al Mighty God Himself defined the righteous ones in the Quran .."They Enjoin What is Good and Forbid What is Wrong and Believe in Allah.."

Qul qitaalun feehi kabeerun - WA suaddun 'an sabeel Allah, wa kufrun bihi, wa al masjid al haraam, ikhraaju ahlihi etc etc etc.


It is our sacred duty to do so. I hope and I pray that may Allah (swt) unite our hearts as one![/QUOTE]

It is indeed our sacred duty to ondemn oppression, and the kuffar of France became an embodiment of that oppression.
Their account is not yet even, they can save themselves by sincerely repenting to Allah, for the right of the Syrians to make nafs for nafs Qisas for all thise killed in French massacres and airstrikes has not been excercised.
Repent, or may Allah make qisas on behalf of the oppressed.

Chapter Name:Al-Anfal Verse No:38

8قُل لِلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ إِن يَنتَهُواْ يُغَفَرْ لَهُم مَّا قَدْ سَلَفَ وَإِنْ يَعُودُواْ فَقَدْ مَضَتْ سُنَّةُ الأَوَّلِينِ

{38*008:038*Khan:
Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven. But if they return (thereto), then the examples of those (punished) before them have already preceded (as a warning).

008:038*Maulana:
Say to those who disbelieve, if they desist, that which is past will be forgiven them; and if they return, then the example of those of old has already gone.

008:038*Pickthal:
Tell those who disbelieve that if they cease (from persecution of believers) that which is past will be forgiven them; but if they return (thereto) then the example of the men of old hath already gone (before them, for a warning).

008:038*Rashad:
Tell those who disbelieved: if they stop, all their past will be forgiven. But if they return, they will incur the same fate as their previous counterparts.

008:038*Sarwar:
Muhammad, tell the unbelievers, if you give up your evil behavior, God will forgive whatever you have done in the past. But if you transgras again, your fate will be the same as that of those (unbelievers) who lived before you."

008:038*Shakir:
Say to those who disbelieve, if they desist, that which is past shall be forgiven to them; and if they return, then what happened to the ancients has already passed.

008:038*Sherali:
Say to those who disbelieve, if they desist, that which is past will be forgiven them; and if they return to their misdeeds, then verily the example of the former peoples has already gone before them.

008:038*Yusufali:
Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them).

 

[Physicist]

I'm pleasantly surprised by the reaction in social networks.
Instead of expected growing hatred against refugees and against all muslims, i see, that those who were posting #PrayForParis, starting to understand the suffering of the people of the world, understand that we all are living on the one planet, now they are posting #PrayForTheWorld, #PrayForTheLybia, #PrayForTheIraq, #PrayForTheSyria, etc...
The world's wisdom is growing up!
This is not what was expected by those, who were planning these attacks. They rather were expecting growing hatred and request for isolation and starting the new crusade against muslims, use it as a justification of the increasing oppression worldwide.
There should start G20 summit these days and terrorist attacks were probably planned to affect it. Will see.

 

[Pygoscelis]

It is becoming evident that you prefer to side with the kuffar who oppress regardless if how evil and irrational they are.

His being against so-called Muslims who murder innocent civilians and siding with the victims and those who wouldn't wish this on anybody, is siding with the evil kuffar who terrorize the world? Is this truly an us vs them thing for you? They say they are Muslim, so they can do no wrong, and the Kuffar can do no right? You'll always side with the Muslim, no matter what they do, because they are on your "team"? Is that it?

 

[sister herb]

I'm pleasantly surprised by the reaction in social networks.
Instead of expected growing hatred against refugees and against all muslims, i see, that those who were posting #PrayForParis, starting to understand the suffering of the people of the world, understand that we all are living on the one planet, now they are posting #PrayForTheWorld, #PrayForTheLybia, #PrayForTheIraq, #PrayForTheSyria, etc...
The world's wisdom is growing up!
This is not what was expected by those, who were planning these attacks. They rather were expecting growing hatred and request for isolation and starting the new crusade against muslims, use it as a justification of the increasing oppression worldwide.
There should start G20 summit these days and terrorist attacks were probably planned to affect it. Will see.

The flame of the hope and humanity is shining in the darkness.

In Finland yesterday people gathered to the streets and set light to the candles as the peace mark. Today here will be a march for peace, hope and humanity. Participants will be Christians, Jews and Muslims. There might be also some Atheists with them.

 

[Physicist]

... You'll always side with the Muslim, no matter what they do, because they are on your "team"? Is that it?

Just a little accent correction i'd like to add "with those who call themselves Muslim" instead of "Muslim".
Because "Muslim" is the absolute value, like if you would replace it with "those who are right".
This kind of little misinterpretations sometime lead to the great misunderstanding.

 

[Abz2000]

Sahih Muslim

by Imam Muslim, translation by Abdul Hamid Siddiqui ,
Volume: The Book Pertaining to the Merits of the Companions (Allah Be Pleased With Them) of the Holy Prophet (May Peace Be Upon Him)
(Kitab Al-Fada'il Al-Sahabah)
6097.

'A'idh b. Amr reported that Abu Sufyan came to Salman, Suhaib and Bilal in the presence of a group of persons. They said: By Allah, the sword of Allah did not reach the neck of the enemy of Allah as it was required to reach.
Thereupon Abu Bakr said: Do you say this to the elder of the Quraish and their chief?
Then he came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon'him) and informed him of this.
Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Abu Bakr, you have perhaps annoyed them and if you annoyed them you have in fact annoyed your Lord.
So Abu Bakr came to them and said: O my brothers, I have annoyed you.
They said: No, our brother, may Allah forgive you

 

[strivingobserver98]

I'm not trying to be some conspiracy theorist lol, but this is strange! Allah knows best if it's true.

The account was suspended afterwards.

 

[Muslim Woman]

I'm not trying to be some conspiracy theorist lol, but this is strange! Allah knows best if it's true.

The account was suspended afterwards.

pl. let us know if there is any follow up about this .