Abz2000
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I noticed the cryptos have left you to respond - makes sense since they lose all credibility in all future posts if they disagree with Islam after playing the indignant Muslim....
....The Prophet pbuh - where he could- was usually lenient towards those who worked towards peace and did them good turns, even freeing them without ransom and giving them a few gifts on occaision.
Please don't try and conjure a false image of what matters to me and what doesn't when my posts are more than just blunt, it's not like i'm the type of person who goes head over heels to hide his obvious feelings when i feel passionately regarding a subject, there's no need to discredit yourself by adding false images that don't fit.
If you work hate injustice and actively work towards rather than against justice, personally i'd prefer to give you the benefit of the doubt, unless i was required to prevent the injustice of the canadian government by having to repay via equal retaliation and i was unable to discriminate.
I don't see how advocating the brotherhood according to way of life can be equated with tribalism instead of nationalism / racism which fit the bill.
I would've thought that implying that i worship something akin to a flying spagetti monster was a little more than scornful, but hey, we all grow up and i hope you'll repent and live with justice before the wrath comes, then you'll meet your creator as a successful individual who made it in the nick of time.
I support God and anyone who submits to and supports Him, i use His plumbline to check and not the many of the lamestream media which keep blowing in the wind, so i'm unaffected when they falsely accuse people who support God with every manufactured stereotype and slander, i wonder what God says and what He thinks of me so i don't fall prey to the "oh i don't want to be associated with those daily reviled fake baddies so please like me" complex.
ISIS didn't exist when we first conversed pygo yet your governments have been committing crimes against us for decades, so please stop using new strawmen and boogeymen as a justification for crimes.
As i said, i'd be lenient where i could, but when equal retaliation is required to check injustice against millions of genuine Muslims, the stuart littles in France have less priority, most people in the west have the resources to migrate so there's less excuse for them than those who suffer humiliation and war in the poorer countries and are forced to live as majorities under western kafir installed puppet despots, anyway, the responsibility of a Muslim leader extends towards Muslims of the Islamic State primarily.
For more information read up on how the Prophet pbuh responded when he was informed that a few Muslims living in the kafir land had been accidentally killed during a battle
I prefer that everyone on the planet repents and we all live happily ever after and then we all go to paradise with smiles,
However if that's not possible, my above post has more details.
If after that migration and separation has been peacefully achieved, those who prefer to live amongst kuffar as abused and reviled people like the man of Surah al A'raaf, that is their choice - my responsibility is to those who prefer to live under the rule of Allah despite hardships.
He was a respected Muslim brother of mine, and he worked continually to elevate the situation of the oppressed, you maybe forget that i was born and brought up in the U.K and was abused and harassed even when advocating for peace and protesting against bush and blair's unlawful murderous wars (fundamentalist was the word if i recall correctly when i was handing out "investigate 9/11" leaflets despite my calling for total non-violence and even condemning the 7/7 bombers - until enough research was made and that too was proven to be an undeniable false flag).
Thing is, those who have tried hard and yet been on the receiving end of colonialist kafir terror and have been framed, experienced blatant kangaroo trials, abusive police and have beem imprisoned a few times see a totally different world than that which those who focus on daily bread and cars and only experience the smiling policemen and co-workers see.
He was in America because his forefathers had been taken as slaves there, he had every reason to fight there.
My father moved to the uk from bangladesh and worked as a factory labourer at lucas, he experienced his share of racism since our house was near the football field, do some reaearch and you'll see that bengal was one of the richest places on the planet until the east india conpany moved in, since then we've never seen a break in corruption and external meddling until it was reduced to a poverty stricken discarded plaything of the british empire. I wasn't the type to rejoice in claiming benefits either despite social workers coming and telling me that my children had a right, rather i had every right to rob them blind at gunpoint like the east india had robbed my ancestors blind until they were amongst those considered lucky enough to go and work as labourers in britain.
I had the decency to move out, yet the british government didn't have the decency to stop harrassing me even after i went and demanded such at the local british embassy and it hasn't appeared to have broken it's alliance with the U.S despite the crimes the u.s government has commited against Muslims.
Allah is the best of judges, you have only yourselves to blame.
I hope you can understand how my thinking has matured over the years.
I am not French. I have no control over what France does. I can tell you that I voted in the recent Canadian election that ousted Stephen Harper, who was a hawk and who pushed for Canadian troops in Syria. The new Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau had vowed to remove and keep Canada out of these international conflicts. I am proud to have helped him into power. That said, I do not know what he will do now that the Paris attack happened. He may now see the need to get involved. I also took part in the protests against Bush's wars, and helped push Canada of that conflict , though Canada was engaged in Kandahar.
....The Prophet pbuh - where he could- was usually lenient towards those who worked towards peace and did them good turns, even freeing them without ransom and giving them a few gifts on occaision.
Of course none of that matters to you does it? Because I am Canadian you hold me responsible for everything the Canadian government has ever done and will ever do, just as responsible as those making the decisions or voting in the hawks. You work on a group tribal level, yes? If I were French and did everything I could to stop French involvement in Syria, you'd cheer for my death... simply because I was French, yes? That is as irrational as it is barbaric.
Please don't try and conjure a false image of what matters to me and what doesn't when my posts are more than just blunt, it's not like i'm the type of person who goes head over heels to hide his obvious feelings when i feel passionately regarding a subject, there's no need to discredit yourself by adding false images that don't fit.
If you work hate injustice and actively work towards rather than against justice, personally i'd prefer to give you the benefit of the doubt, unless i was required to prevent the injustice of the canadian government by having to repay via equal retaliation and i was unable to discriminate.
I don't see how advocating the brotherhood according to way of life can be equated with tribalism instead of nationalism / racism which fit the bill.
I do not scorn you because you are Muslim. I do not judge you based on that and that alone. If you are supporting Isis and wish to harm me however, then for that reason and that alone I would fight you. Other Muslims in this thread I would side with against you, and against any of my fellow Canadians who would think along the same lines as you and seek to harm them. That is what rational people with a sense of empathy and morality do.
I would've thought that implying that i worship something akin to a flying spagetti monster was a little more than scornful, but hey, we all grow up and i hope you'll repent and live with justice before the wrath comes, then you'll meet your creator as a successful individual who made it in the nick of time.
I support God and anyone who submits to and supports Him, i use His plumbline to check and not the many of the lamestream media which keep blowing in the wind, so i'm unaffected when they falsely accuse people who support God with every manufactured stereotype and slander, i wonder what God says and what He thinks of me so i don't fall prey to the "oh i don't want to be associated with those daily reviled fake baddies so please like me" complex.
ISIS didn't exist when we first conversed pygo yet your governments have been committing crimes against us for decades, so please stop using new strawmen and boogeymen as a justification for crimes.
This is doubly irrational. Do you realize that not only are not all French people supportive of the actions of the French government that you scorn, but many French people ARE Muslim, do regular prayer, etc? Do they also deserve to be killed because of where they live? In your warped number system, where you demand equal numbers to die on both "sides"... how do you count these French Muslims? Do you count them in the "us" column or the "them" column?
As i said, i'd be lenient where i could, but when equal retaliation is required to check injustice against millions of genuine Muslims, the stuart littles in France have less priority, most people in the west have the resources to migrate so there's less excuse for them than those who suffer humiliation and war in the poorer countries and are forced to live as majorities under western kafir installed puppet despots, anyway, the responsibility of a Muslim leader extends towards Muslims of the Islamic State primarily.
For more information read up on how the Prophet pbuh responded when he was informed that a few Muslims living in the kafir land had been accidentally killed during a battle
The last I checked, non-muslims were not moving in droves to muslim majority lands. From what I have seen it tends to be the other way around. Are you proposing to stop such Muslims, such as the Syrian refugees, from leaving Muslim lands? Do you propose to build a giant wall to keep them in? I think you could get a lot of western people to support you in your mission to keep Muslims out of the west, especially after attacks like the one in Paris. Do you see the western islamophobes as natural allies?
I prefer that everyone on the planet repents and we all live happily ever after and then we all go to paradise with smiles,
However if that's not possible, my above post has more details.
If after that migration and separation has been peacefully achieved, those who prefer to live amongst kuffar as abused and reviled people like the man of Surah al A'raaf, that is their choice - my responsibility is to those who prefer to live under the rule of Allah despite hardships.
[/quote]Finally, why do you post a video of Malcolm X? Wasn't he American? Doesn't that mean you would like to see him dead? Your position seems to contradict itself in many ways.
He was a respected Muslim brother of mine, and he worked continually to elevate the situation of the oppressed, you maybe forget that i was born and brought up in the U.K and was abused and harassed even when advocating for peace and protesting against bush and blair's unlawful murderous wars (fundamentalist was the word if i recall correctly when i was handing out "investigate 9/11" leaflets despite my calling for total non-violence and even condemning the 7/7 bombers - until enough research was made and that too was proven to be an undeniable false flag).
Thing is, those who have tried hard and yet been on the receiving end of colonialist kafir terror and have been framed, experienced blatant kangaroo trials, abusive police and have beem imprisoned a few times see a totally different world than that which those who focus on daily bread and cars and only experience the smiling policemen and co-workers see.
He was in America because his forefathers had been taken as slaves there, he had every reason to fight there.
My father moved to the uk from bangladesh and worked as a factory labourer at lucas, he experienced his share of racism since our house was near the football field, do some reaearch and you'll see that bengal was one of the richest places on the planet until the east india conpany moved in, since then we've never seen a break in corruption and external meddling until it was reduced to a poverty stricken discarded plaything of the british empire. I wasn't the type to rejoice in claiming benefits either despite social workers coming and telling me that my children had a right, rather i had every right to rob them blind at gunpoint like the east india had robbed my ancestors blind until they were amongst those considered lucky enough to go and work as labourers in britain.
I had the decency to move out, yet the british government didn't have the decency to stop harrassing me even after i went and demanded such at the local british embassy and it hasn't appeared to have broken it's alliance with the U.S despite the crimes the u.s government has commited against Muslims.
Allah is the best of judges, you have only yourselves to blame.
I hope you can understand how my thinking has matured over the years.
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