Paris Attacks

[sfontel]

Tours is a hundred years after the death of the Prophet, it's hardly the beginning of Islam.

Hey Futuwwa....how are you?

Well I agree that is a 100 years after the death of the Prophet....and a lot of things happened as Abz point out....

As I was reading about Caliphates and its rullers...." from Islamic web sites" I learn a quite bit of things...

My comparison is simple and easy..and I did to my self....real Christianity did not comited violence until was taken by the Roman Empire represented by the "prostitute" from the book of Revelations....quote by Abz in a diferent post.... It is historicly proven! Was peacefull and matches exactly with Jesus teachings from the Gospels!

The secular history, proves that Christianity is true to 100% of the Gospel.....It reveals that God and following God is not about violence....not about territory expansion.....not about an eartly kingdown!

Its about expading into humans hearts that God is love and He care for us.....

And from the get go Islam was about estabishing an eartly Caliphate...and history proves this too! And remain with this Ideology even 100 years after Prophet Mohamed death!

Two complete diferent revelations proven by acts of History!

Thats why I said was clear for me...the diferences....

Do you see bias in my conclusion?

Now, 2000 years have past....What is the Ideology of Islam today? I believe its a very very minority that suports IS today.....

And I am not concern with IS brutal samples of Faith.....

I am concern if the Ideology of a Caliphate even if is trough acts of peace(possible?) still exist in the majorit of Muslams minds!!!!



God bless!

 

[Abz2000]

There have always been different methods in the service of God, and it was ok as long as it was in submission and obedience to God, do not forget some of the blood-curling and hair raising events of the OT, the violent table turning against the usurers, and the command to the disciples to sell their cloaks and buy swords in the gospels, the fact that simon peter was a faithful jihadi, and that judas iscariot appears to have been a provocateur extremist sicarii.
The kingdom of God requires faith with action.

Your Lord knows that you stand forth (to prayer) near two-thirds of the night, or half the night, or a third of the night, and so does a party of those with you.
But Allah appoints night and day in due measure He knows that you are unable to keep count thereof. So He has turned to you (in mercy): read, therefore, of the Qur'an as much as may be easy for you.
He knows that there may be (some) among you in ill-health;
others travelling through the land, seeking of Allah's bounty;
yet others fighting in Allah's Cause,
read, therefore, as much of the Qur'an as may be easy (for you);
and establish regular Prayer
and give regular Charity;
and loan to Allah a Beautiful Loan.
And whatever good ye send forth for your souls ye shall find it in Allah's Presence,- better and greater in Reward
and seek the Grace of Allah. for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Al Muzzammil, Quran chapter 73: verse 20


Smile, it's sunnah
https://www.dropbox.com/s/16tsos5kk...illion Piece Of Empty Rhetoric_59_59.mp4?dl=0


P.S i'm going to sleep now, it's 8:59am

 

[sfontel]

There have always been different methods in the service of God, and it was ok as long as it was in submission and obedience to God, do not forget some of the blood-curling and hair raising events of the OT, the violent table turning against the usurers, and the command to the disciples to sell their cloaks and buy swords in the gospels, the fact that simon peter was a faithful jihadi, and that judas iscariot appears to have been a provocateur extremist sicarii.
The kingdom of God requires faith with action.

Your Lord knows that you stand forth (to prayer) near two-thirds of the night, or half the night, or a third of the night, and so does a party of those with you.
But Allah appoints night and day in due measure He knows that you are unable to keep count thereof. So He has turned to you (in mercy): read, therefore, of the Qur'an as much as may be easy for you.
He knows that there may be (some) among you in ill-health;
others travelling through the land, seeking of Allah's bounty;
yet others fighting in Allah's Cause,
read, therefore, as much of the Qur'an as may be easy (for you);
and establish regular Prayer
and give regular Charity;
and loan to Allah a Beautiful Loan.
And whatever good ye send forth for your souls ye shall find it in Allah's Presence,- better and greater in Reward
and seek the Grace of Allah. for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Al Muzzammil, Quran chapter 73: verse 20


Smile, it's sunnah

P.S i'm going to sleep now, it's 8:59am

Some things you said I agree....in the OT there is a lot blood shed, Israel was order by God to kill the people of Canaa, something that Abraham was blocked of doing....

"But in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” Gn 15:16

For me this verse is a so deep in God revelation, the way He deals with us.....diferent subject....lol

But even in the OT God never authorized wide spread killing....was always very specific.....very objective as the verse above show us...

Nothing like...."kill them whatever you find them".....

I took the Koran verse out of context to show how easy is to say something or to demostrate an ideal that sometimes it has nothing to do with the real meaning....

"Be angry, and do not sin. Meditate within your heart on your bed, and be still. Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, And put your trust in the Lord ." Sl 4:4-5

We believe this is what Jesus did..He got angry....and as you said..He did actions of righteousness.....but no bloodshed killing which would be sin!

Intresting but I think this has to do a lot with freedom of expression....

Regarding the sword passage...it is a strech to belive that He said literly

The next sequence of verses "His betrayal and imprisioment" I think it shows a complete oposit ideia from that one you are trying to say with the pessage...

"When those around Him saw what was going to happen, they said to Him, “Lord, shall we strike with the sword?” And one of them struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his right ear. But Jesus answered and said, “Permit even this.” And He touched his ear and healed him. Luke 22:49-51

Why heal the one you trying to kill?

and if indeed if these swords were literly.....I beleive would had been a tool used a lot by His diciples after His death and even more after His ressurection.....but as you probaly know by the knowledge you show it until now.......history shows that none of the diciples used any type of weapons other than the sword of the Spirit...the word of God....

If they understood the real message,everything they carried with them was only the Word whaever they went...

And they all died...with out figthing back their opositors....

I agree the Peter was a jihadits at the begining...I guess we all are at some degree until God finds us....it took some time for him to understand what Jesus meant by His teachings....and we see that on the last chapter of the gospel of John....

Peter end up dead crucified up side down in Rome.....if he did any jihad...surely was only for preching the word of God that he finaly understood....

As for Judas is just pointless to speak about him....he did not want to have nothing of God....as you said he was a man with wrong intentions and actions...John says he was thief...only intrested in money and probaly social and political position....

But Jesus kingdom was not from earth....he go disapointed and betrayed Jesus...

Sorry I took to long!....lol

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. Jo 1:14 NIV....

By the way....I know His glory too!


God Bless! Big Hug!

 

[sfontel]

Also, I forgot, the gospel of Matthew 26:51-53 have more details regarding the sword....take a look...Hug!

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you all,

If Britain had a prime minister like Nelson Mandela, I wonder what our answer to terrorism would be? I could not see Nelson Mandela going along with David Cameron's solution, we should bomb Syria with or without the backing of the United Nations.

It seems David Cameron wants our response to mirror the mindless terrorism of drunk, drug taking petty criminals. This cannot end well, more innocent people will die and more people will become angry, creating more terrorists.

In the spirit of praying for justice for all people

Eric

 

[Search]

Hi, bro Eric H! I'm not surprised (sighs).

Actually, I do want ISIS to be eliminated; but I don't want innocent people to die. I don't know what the right answer is.

For example, I read in the news recently that ISIS, expecting retaliatory attacks for Paris attack, have taken to hiding now in between civilian populations that of course comprises of a lot of women, children, and the elderly; apparently, ISIS is forcing these civilian populations to stay put as ISIS wants to have a better chance of survival.

So, of course, if ISIS is then bombed, they are going to take a lot of the civilian population with them. Of course, since ISIS represents to me a cancer in society, I don't want ISIS to survive. However, I'm forced to ask myself at what cost. You're right; maybe the innocent children who survive this type of horror, seeing the brutal attacks in which their parents, uncles, aunts, and other near and loved ones die as "collateral damage," stand next in line to become the next generation of terrorists. And the cycle continues.

What's the solution? does anyone know.

I don't know. It feels like an old saying, "****ed if you do and ****ed if you don't."

Greetings and peace be with you all,

If Britain had a prime minister like Nelson Mandela, I wonder what our answer to terrorism would be? I could not see Nelson Mandela going along with David Cameron's solution, we should bomb Syria with or without the backing of the United Nations.

It seems David Cameron wants our response to mirror the mindless terrorism of drunk, drug taking petty criminals. This cannot end well, more innocent people will die and more people will become angry, creating more terrorists.

In the spirit of praying for justice for all people

Eric

 

[Search]

Why are the words "d*a*m*n*e*d" blocked with ******? Is it a curse word? That's what I'd written above in case anyone wanted to know.

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you Search;

I don't know. It feels like an old saying, "****ed if you do and ****ed if you don't."

Whichever path you go down, more people are going to die, too much injustice has already happened.

What's the solution?

Instead of spending billions on bombs and war, use that money to rebuild Syria. Kindness will eventually kill of the need for more terrorism, families in Syria will want their country rebuilt.

In the spirit of praying to the same God that hears all our prayers.

Eric

 

[Search]

Hi, bro Eric! That sounds like a great idea to me! You're right. Kindness will probably kill terrorists faster than anything we've come up with so far. Now, if only we could vote you into political power instead of the people we see in political office today!

Greetings and peace be with you Search;


Whichever path you go down, more people are going to die, too much injustice has already happened.



Instead of spending billions on bombs and war, use that money to rebuild Syria. Kindness will eventually kill of the need for more terrorism, families in Syria will want their country rebuilt.

In the spirit of praying to the same God that hears all our prayers.

Eric

 

[Abz2000]

Hi, bro Eric H! I'm not surprised (sighs).

Actually, I do want ISIS to be eliminated; but I don't want innocent people to die. I don't know what the right answer is.

For example, I read in the news recently that ISIS, expecting retaliatory attacks for Paris attack, have taken to hiding now in between civilian populations that of course comprises of a lot of women, children, and the elderly; apparently, ISIS is forcing these civilian populations to stay put as ISIS wants to have a better chance of survival.

So, of course, if ISIS is then bombed, they are going to take a lot of the civilian population with them. Of course, since ISIS represents to me a cancer in society, I don't want ISIS to survive. However, I'm forced to ask myself at what cost. You're right; maybe the innocent children who survive this type of horror, seeing the brutal attacks in which their parents, uncles, aunts, and other near and loved ones die as "collateral damage," stand next in line to become the next generation of terrorists. And the cycle continues.

What's the solution? does anyone know.

I don't know. It feels like an old saying, "****ed if you do and ****ed if you don't."

You speak like a true violent extremist liberal munafiq.
The facts of the matter are that people have every right to create an Islamic State so that Muslims can live under the laws of God and nobody, i repeat nobody has the right to go and harm them and unjustly murder Muslims who are sick and tired of being told regardless of their ancestral indigenousness or citizenship to "go back to their own country or syria" if they don't like ridiculous and baseless hotchpotch laws of every type of criminal,violent, evil and corporate puppet democratic dictator, while the ability of the people to establish Islamic law is criminally and hypocritically repressed and hinderedby the same western kafir despots and the borders are closed to those who choose to move to the Islamic State after the persecutions they suffer in the so called "free" countries where the only freedom appears to be the freedom to fall victim to vice.
I believe your group of violent extremist munafiqs who call for unjust bombing of Muslim lands ought to be proscribed and that the media should be used to vilify you when you speak evil against decent God fearing Muslims who hold mujahideen to be heroes who retaliated lawfully to the constant murders of evil kafir despots, and that people should make public prayers for all the martyred Muslims murdered by your evil terrorist kafir leaders - under your authority.
I also believe there should be a public janazah for the heros of Islam at wootton basset and that any violent extremist kafir group should be threatened with arrest and vilified in the media as the evil extremists they are if they plan any protests against such a respectful gathering.

I also believe that the British, French and U.S governments should be eliminated and that it is criminal for them to hold innocent civilians as human shields when faced with lawful retaliation and that obama hollande and cameron should take the full blame for the dead civillians when lawful retribution according to the Quran is practised in order to check the criminality of those natiins and prevent the further killings of innocent Muslims.
Of course the zionists represent to me a cancer in society and i don't want them or their zionist puppet cameron or their allies to survive because they are guilty of more unlawfulkillings and oppression than ISIS, al qaeda, saddam and assad combined.
May Allah exalt His true servants and may He humiliate the faces of the false, hateful, criminal, and evil munafiqs and kuffar enemies of Allah who live like animals or worse and accuse the righteous of being aggressors.

 

[Abz2000]

I ask him if, as someone who mentions the word "justice" a lot, he really believes that stoning a woman to death is the appropriate punishment for adultery."For people who have had adultery committed against them, people who have had their wives taken, a lot will say 'I think stoning to death is appropriate'.

I was like you, I was completely oblivious to Islam and the Islamic civilisation because I was educated in this system.
"But when you look at the rationale and benefits of it, you realise that it is, in fact, superior."
As a young adult, Choudary was far from an observant Muslim. At Southampton University, where he studied law, he was known as "Andy" and by all accounts was something of a party animal.
"I used to get stoned with Andy," recalls one old friend from those days. "He was a really lovely bloke, funny and warm."

The ex-friend says that Choudary showed no interest in religion, but did take exception to the publication of The Satanic Verses. Although that was an event that radicalised a generation of Muslim activists, the former friend suggests it might have been Choudary's failure to land a job with a big legal firm upon graduating that set him off on his path to Salafi righteousness. Choudary is even less keen to speak about his student years than he to discuss his government benefits. But it is known that meeting Bakri Mohammed, then the leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir, was instrumental in his journey towards what he maintains is the true understanding of Islam.
"I admit that I wasn't always practising," he allows. "But it's not from the tradition of the prophet to expose your sins from the past. I committed many mistakes in my life. You are judged on your latest deed, meaning if you made mistakes and corrected them, people should give credit for that. I thank Allah that he guided me. At the hands of Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, I started to learn more about Islam."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/07/anjem-choudary-islamic-state-isis

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315d, 5h388
Drunk Choudary's just a silly dude, holy Choudary has one of the smuggest, most punchable faces I've ever seen.

ridersderohan315d, 2h191
What's crazy is that Drunk Choudary actually seems like a pretty cool guy that I'd hang out with at a party. He seems like the kind of guy who brings a tonne of beer to a party and refuses to let you pay him back or lets you crash on his couch when you're too tired/sick to call a cab.I just genuinely want to understand how you go from that to being what he is now.

Stillwatch315d, 1h102
I couldn't have said it better. Reminds me of one of the 9/11 hijackers. He lived as the Tennant of some old lady somewhere in Europe. He hung out with her and took her to run errands and was this super nice funny guy that everyone loved. Then he fell in to strict Islam and cut her out of his life and.... well you know the rest. I think it was on a W5 documentary on the CBC where they interviewed her. You could see the sadness in her eyes when she spoke about him. She was still mourning the person she knew.... so sad.

......Around this time, he started going to the local mosque. That's where, he said, he felt 'comfortable' and 'at home'.
This dude had never been to a mosque his whole life, suddenly starts going there every day.Long story short, he's now a hard line Islamist.
We had a falling out and I haven't spoken to him in 2 years.I loved this guy. He's still the only friend I would be willing to die for. And I lost him.
I blame myself for that to some extent......f**k man. Now I miss him. His birthday is coming up on the 14th....I think I'll give him a call.F****g hell Reddit...I'm f**g crying now because I'm just thinking that I had been a bad friend and I should've been there for him when no one else was.

https://m.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2rqzmk/anjem_choudary_wants_these_pictures_deleted_off/

35.*Give full measure when ye measure, and weigh with a balance that is straight: that is the most fitting and the most advantageous in the final determination.
36.*And pursue not that of which thou hast no knowledge; for every act of hearing, or of seeing or of (feeling in) the heart will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning).
37.*Nor walk on the earth with insolence: for thou canst not rend the earth asunder, nor reach the mountains in height.
38.*Of all such things the evil is hateful in the sight of thy Lord.
39.*These are among the (precepts of) wisdom, which thy Lord has revealed to thee. Take not, with Allah, another object of worship, lest thou shouldst be thrown into Hell, blameworthy and rejected.
40.*Has then your Lord (O Pagans!) preferred for you sons, and taken for Himself daughters among the angels? Truly ye utter a most dreadful saying!
41.*We have explained (things) in various (ways) in this Qur'an, in order that they may receive admonition, but it only increases their flight (from the Truth)!
42.*Say: If there had been (other) gods with Him, as they say,- behold, they would certainly have sought out a way to the Lord of the Throne!
43.*Glory to Him! He is high above all that they say!- Exalted and Great (beyond measure)!
44.*The seven heavens and the earth, and all beings therein, declare His glory: there is not a thing but celebrates His praise; And yet ye understand not how they declare His glory! Verily He is Oft-Forbear, Most Forgiving!
45.*When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:
46.*And We put coverings over their hearts (and minds) lest they should understand the Qur'an, and deafness into their ears: when thou dost commemorate thy Lord and Him alone in the Qur'an, they turn on their backs, fleeing (from the Truth).
47.*We know best why it is they listen, when they listen to thee; and when they meet in private conference, behold, the wicked say, "Ye follow none other than a man bewitched!"
48.*See what similes they strike for thee: but they have gone astray, and never can they find a way.

What's the solution? does anyone know.

I don't know. It feels like an old saying, "****ed if you do and ****ed if you don't."

The best solution is that we all repent of our past crimes and submit to God, testify that there is no God but Almighty God and that Muhammad pbuh is His Messenger, establish regular prayer, give regular zakah, and receive glad tidings of a goodly life in this world and in eternity.
If anyone is too foolish or arrogant to accept the truth, then we separate and allow all Muslims to migrate peacefully and rule by the law of Allah, without any kafir harming a Muslim and without any Muslim harming a kafir, and if any wish to later be ruled by the law of Allah they be allowed to migrate to the lands of Islam, and if any from amongst the Muslims decides they want to go to the rule of kufr (God knows what that would be) then they be allowed to migrate to the kuffar.
Please don't keep pretending to hold peace talks while bleeding us dry, the solution is peaceful and easy.
Does anyone have any valid suggestions otherwise?
Anyone ever heard of hadrian's wall?

 

[Search]

:bism:

Okay, Abz, I know you put in a lot of effort and thought and organization and so on and so forth in your post and therefore I think the least I can do is acknowledge that. So, please know post acknowledged! And I have only a one-word response:

Peace!

:wa:

 

[sfontel]

35.*Give full measure when ye measure, and weigh with a balance that is straight: that is the most fitting and the most advantageous in the final determination.
36.*And pursue not that of which thou hast no knowledge; for every act of hearing, or of seeing or of (feeling in) the heart will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning).
37.*Nor walk on the earth with insolence: for thou canst not rend the earth asunder, nor reach the mountains in height.
38.*Of all such things the evil is hateful in the sight of thy Lord.
39.*These are among the (precepts of) wisdom, which thy Lord has revealed to thee. Take not, with Allah, another object of worship, lest thou shouldst be thrown into Hell, blameworthy and rejected.
40.*Has then your Lord (O Pagans!) preferred for you sons, and taken for Himself daughters among the angels? Truly ye utter a most dreadful saying!
41.*We have explained (things) in various (ways) in this Qur'an, in order that they may receive admonition, but it only increases their flight (from the Truth)!
42.*Say: If there had been (other) gods with Him, as they say,- behold, they would certainly have sought out a way to the Lord of the Throne!
43.*Glory to Him! He is high above all that they say!- Exalted and Great (beyond measure)!
44.*The seven heavens and the earth, and all beings therein, declare His glory: there is not a thing but celebrates His praise; And yet ye understand not how they declare His glory! Verily He is Oft-Forbear, Most Forgiving!
45.*When thou dost recite the Qur'an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:
46.*And We put coverings over their hearts (and minds) lest they should understand the Qur'an, and deafness into their ears: when thou dost commemorate thy Lord and Him alone in the Qur'an, they turn on their backs, fleeing (from the Truth).
47.*We know best why it is they listen, when they listen to thee; and when they meet in private conference, behold, the wicked say, "Ye follow none other than a man bewitched!"
48.*See what similes they strike for thee: but they have gone astray, and never can they find a way.



The best solution is that we all repent of our past crimes and submit to God, testify that there is no God but Almighty God and that Muhammad pbuh is His Messenger, establish regular prayer, give regular zakah, and receive glad tidings of a goodly life in this world and in eternity.
If anyone is too foolish or arrogant to accept the truth, then we separate and allow all Muslims to migrate peacefully and rule by the law of Allah, without any kafir harming a Muslim and without any Muslim harming a kafir, and if any wish to later be ruled by the law of Allah they be allowed to migrate to the lands of Islam, and if any from amongst the Muslims decides they want to go to the rule of kufr (God knows what that would be) then they be allowed to migrate to the kuffar.
Please don't keep pretending to hold peace talks while bleeding us dry, the solution is peaceful and easy.
Does anyone have any valid suggestions otherwise?
Anyone ever heard of hadrian's wall?

Hey Abz...,

I like you.....you dont answer my questions..but its ok...

Anyway....Hadrian wall...Yes!....

Imperialist Rome was crushed by the north tribes of England on its Campain to expend their Caliphate!

A whole Legion died at one atempt.

The Emperor order to built the wall..

But, I was surprise that you finaly said what you really believe.....


The bible says that one man is going to apper in the world scenario and he is ganna be able to fix all....when? I dont know....what I know is that I dont want to be here...lol


God Bless!

 

[Khalid Saifullah]

14 African Countries Forced by France to Pay Colonial Tax For the Benefits of Slavery and Colonization - - http://www.siliconafrica.com/france-colonial-tax

 

[Abz2000]

:bism:

Wassalamu'alal mu-mineena wal muslimeena billah, wa manittaba'al hidaayal haqq.

Okay, Abz, I know you put in a lot of effort and thought and organization and so on and so forth in your post

and therefore I think the least I can do is acknowledge that.

That?

So, please know post acknowledged!

And I have only a one-word response:

Peace!

:wa:

They swear by Allah to you (Muslims) in order to please you,
but it is more fitting that they should please Allah and His Messenger, if they are believers.
Quran 9:63

On War & Peace:*2001:
"I'm going to be judicious as to how I use the military. It needs to be in our vital interest; the mission needs to be clear; and the exit strategy obvious. I think one way for us to end up being viewed as the ugly America is for us to go around the world saying, 'We do it this way. So should you.' "--George W. Bush, Oct. 11, 2000

"If we're an arrogant nation, they'll resent us. If we're a humble nation but strong, they'll welcome us."--George W. Bush, Oct. 12, 2000

Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."--George W. Bush, Sept. 20, 2001

"We're under attack because we love freedom, is why we're under attack. And our enemy hates freedom. They hate and we love.
We differ from our enemy because we love.
We not only love our freedoms and love our values, we love life itself. Our enemy hates innocent life."
--George W. Bush, addressing schoolchildren, September 23, 2002



"This is a man who cannot stand what we stand for. He hates the fact, like al-Qaeda does, that we love freedom. See, they can't stand that."
--George W. Bush, on Saddam, October 31, 2002

"They hate things; we love things. They act out of hatred; we don't seek revenge, we seek justice out of love."
--George W. Bush, August 29, 2002

Would've probably got more points for incessantly repeating "post office" like the onion pundits coz repeating 9/11 came back to haunt the evil colonialist invaders after the facts became clear.


And of mankind there is he whose speech may dazzle you, in this worldly life,
and he calls Allah to witness as to that which is in his heart, yet he is the most quarrelsome of the opponents.

:And when he turns away (from you "O Muhammad SAW "), his effort in the land is to make mischief therein and to destroy the crops and the cattle, and Allah likes not mischief.

And when it is said to him, "Fear Allah", he is led by arrogance to (more) crime.
So enough for him is Hell, and worst indeed is that place to rest!

And of mankind is he who would sell himself, seeking the Pleasure of Allah. And Allah is full of Kindness to (His) slaves.

O you who believe! Enter perfectly in Islam (by obeying all the rules and regulations of the Islamic religion) and follow not the footsteps of Shaitan (Satan). Verily! He is to you a plain enemy.

Then if you slide back after the clear signs (Prophet Muhammad SAW and this Qur'an, and Islam) have come to you, then know that Allah is All- Mighty, All-Wise.

From Quran Ch2 Al Baqarah

Hey Abz...,


The Emperor order to built the wall..

But, I was surprise that you finaly said what you really believe.....


The bible says that one man is going to apper in the world scenario and he is ganna be able to fix all....when? I dont know....what :embarrassI know is that I dont want to be here...lol


God Bless!

Did you ever read the story of the man with the balance and the edicts?

5When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!”
I looked, and there before me was a black horse!
Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.*
6Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying,
“Two pounds *of wheat for a day’s wages,*and six pounds of barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!”
Rev 6:5-6



7.*And the Firmament has He raised high, and He has set up the Balance (of Justice),
8.*In order that ye may not transgress (due) balance.
9.*So establish weight with justice and fall not short in the balance.
10.*It is He Who has spread out the earth for (His) creatures:
11.*Therein is fruit and date-palms, producing spathes (enclosing dates);
12.*Also corn, with (its) leaves and stalk for fodder, and sweet-smelling plants.
13.*Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?

From Quran ch 55, The Beneficent

 

[sfontel]

[/QUOTE]


Did you ever read the story of the man with the balance and the edicts?

5When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!”
I looked, and there before me was a black horse!
Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.*
6Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying,
“Two pounds *of wheat for a day’s wages,*and six pounds of barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!”
Rev 6:5-6



7.*And the Firmament has He raised high, and He has set up the Balance (of Justice),
8.*In order that ye may not transgress (due) balance.
9.*So establish weight with justice and fall not short in the balance.
10.*It is He Who has spread out the earth for (His) creatures:
11.*Therein is fruit and date-palms, producing spathes (enclosing dates);
12.*Also corn, with (its) leaves and stalk for fodder, and sweet-smelling plants.
13.*Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?

From Quran ch 55, The Beneficent[/QUOTE]

Lol....

Intresting picture you put up...

at least you keeped the "lamb" that was slain to take away ours sins...is He who brings judgement!...

You got it say.....Chap 5 is awsome! C'mom....confess....lol....there is nothing else like this!

Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals.

And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?”

But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it. I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside.

Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”

None but Jesus! Uhullllllllll

Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders.

The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne. And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb.

Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of God’s people. And they sang a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.

You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.” Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand.

They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. In a loud voice they were saying: “Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!” Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying:

“To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!” The four living creatures said, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
Rev 5:1-14! NVI

Here it is! The guy that many are waiting! The fake fixer.....

I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!”

I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
Rev 6:1-2

Have you ever heard of the "Day Of the Siege"....I guess Bin knew...

Lol...


God Bless!

 

[Abz2000]

Did you ever read the story of the man with the balance and the edicts?

5When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!”
I looked, and there before me was a black horse!
Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.*
6Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying,
“Two pounds *of wheat for a day’s wages,*and six pounds of barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!”
Rev 6:5-6



7.*And the Firmament has He raised high, and He has set up the Balance (of Justice),
8.*In order that ye may not transgress (due) balance.
9.*So establish weight with justice and fall not short in the balance.
10.*It is He Who has spread out the earth for (His) creatures:
11.*Therein is fruit and date-palms, producing spathes (enclosing dates);
12.*Also corn, with (its) leaves and stalk for fodder, and sweet-smelling plants.
13.*Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?

From Quran ch 55, The Beneficent

Lol....

Intresting picture you put up...

at least you keeped the "lamb" that was slain to take away ours sins...is He who brings judgement!...

You got it say.....Chap 5 is awsome! C'mom....confess....lol....there is nothing else like this!

Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals.

And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?”

But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it. I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside.

Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”

None but Jesus! Uhullllllllll

Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders.

The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne. And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb.

Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of God’s people. And they sang a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.

You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.” Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand.

They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. In a loud voice they were saying: “Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!” Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying:

“To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!” The four living creatures said, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
Rev 5:1-14! NVI

Here it is! The guy that many are waiting! The fake fixer.....

I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!”

I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
Rev 6:1-2

Have you ever heard of the "Day Of the Siege"....I guess Bin knew...

Lol...


God Bless!

Al-Miqdad ibn Aswad said I heard*the Prophet**صلى الله عليه وسلم**say:
"Not a dwelling (house) whether of brick, or fur will remain on the surface of the Earth that Allah will not ensure that the word of Islam enters it, either honoring an honorable person or disgracing an abject person."*
(Imam Ahmad, At-Tabarani, Ibn Hibban, Al-Haakim, Al-Albany)

Sunan Abu Dawud,Book 35, Number 4234:*
Narrated Hudhayfah:
The tradition mentioned above (No. 4232) has also been transmitted through a different chain of narrators by Nasr ibn Asim al-Laythi who said:*We came to al-Yashkuri with a group of the people of Banu Layth.He asked: Who are these people?*We replied: Banu Layth. We have come to you to ask you about the tradition of Hudhayfah.*
He then mentioned the tradition and said:
*I asked: Apostle of Allah, will there be evil after this good?
He replied:
There will be trial (fitnah) and evil.
*I asked: Apostle of Allah, will there be good after this evil?*
He replied: Learn the Book of Allah, Hudhayfah, and adhere to its contents. He said it three times.
I asked: Apostle of Allah, will there be good after this evil?
*He replied: An illusory truce and a community with specks in its eye.*I asked: Messenger of Allah, what do you mean by an illusory community?*He replied: The hearts of the people will not return to their former condition. I asked: Messenger of Allah, will there be evil after this good?*
He replied: There will be wrong belief which will blind and deafen men to the truth in which there will be summoners at the gates of Hell. If you, Hudhayfah, die adhering to a stump, it will be better for you than following any of them.

*قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم لعوف بن مالك:أعدد ستاً بين يدي الساعة موتي ثم فتح بيت المقدس ثم موتان يأخذ فيكم كعقاص الغنم ،ثم استفاضة المال حتى يعطى الرجل مائة دينار فيظل ساخطاً ،ثم هدنة تكون بينكم وبين*بني الأصفر*فيغدرون فيأتونكم تحت ثمانين غاية {راية} تحت كل غاية اثنا عشر ألفاً)) رواه البخاري

Awf bin Malik Al-Ashja'ee said that the Messenger of Allah
*صلى الله عليه وسلمduring the Battle of Tabuk said to him:*"....

There will be Hudna (truce) between you and*Bani Al-Asfar*(refers to the Romans).*
Then,*they will deceive you (break the truce)*and will march against you under eighty banners*
and each banner will have ten thousand (soldiers)."
(Bukhari,* Ibn Majah)

Such a situation would have an approriate response from Allah A'azza wa 'Ajal.

Prophet Mohammad*صلى الله عليه وسلم*said:*"In the meantime, while the Dajjal will be busy doing this and this, Allah will send down*the Messiah son of Mary*(Jesus*عليه السلام). He (Jesus*عليه السلام*) will descend in the eastern part of Damascus, near the white minaret (tower),*dressed in the two yellow garments, with his hands resting on the arms of two angels. When he will bend down his head, water drops will appear trickling down, and when he will raise it, it will appear as though pearl--like drops are rolling down. Any disbeliever whom the air of his breath reaches, and it will reach up to the last limit of his sight, will fall dead. Then, the son of Mary will go in pursuit of the Dajjal, and will overtake him at the*gate of Lud*, and will kill him."*(Sahih Muslim, Abu Dawud, Tirmizi, Ibn Majah).

And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah. Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing.
Quran 8:61

1A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2The Spirit of the*Lord*will rest on him—the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,the Spirit of counsel and of might,the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of the*Lord—
3and he will delight in the fear of the*Lord.
He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes,or decide by what he hears with his ears;
4but with righteousness he will judge the needy,with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth.
He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth;
with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked.
5Righteousness will be his beltand faithfulness the sash around his waist.
6The wolf will live with the lamb,the leopard will lie down with the goat,the calf and the lion and the yearlinga*together;and a little child will lead them.7The cow will feed with the bear,their young will lie down together,and the lion will eat straw like the ox.8The infant will play near the cobra’s den,and the young child will put its hand into the viper’s nest.9They will neither harm nor destroyon all my holy mountain,for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the*Lordas the waters cover the sea.
10In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his resting place will be glorious.*
11In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the surviving remnant of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush,b*from Elam, from Babylonia,c*from Hamath and from the islands of the Mediterranean.12He will raise a banner for the nationsand gather the exiles of Israel;he will assemble the scattered people of Judahfrom the four quarters of the earth.

1Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the*Lord*been revealed?
2He grew up before him like a tender shoot,and like a root out of dry ground.He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3He was despised and rejected by mankind,a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.Like one from whom people hide their faceshe was despised, and we held him in low esteem.
4Surely he took up our painand bore our suffering,yet we considered him punished by God,stricken by him, and afflicted.
5But he was pierced for our transgressions,he was crushed for our iniquities;the punishment that brought us peace was on him,and by his wounds we are healed.
6We all, like sheep, have gone astray,each of us has turned to our own way;and the*Lord*has laid on himthe iniquity of us all.
7He was oppressed and afflicted,yet he did not open his mouth;he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,so he did not open his mouth.
8By oppressiona*and judgment he was taken away.Yet who of his generation protested?For he was cut off from the land of the living;for the transgression of my people he was punished.
9He was assigned a grave with the wicked,and with the rich in his death,though he had done no violence,nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10Yet it was the*Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,and though the*Lordmakesc*his life an offering for sin,he will see his offspring and prolong his days,and the will of the*Lordwill prosper in his hand.
11After he has suffered,he will see the light of lifed*and be satisfiede*;by his knowledgef*my righteous servant will justify many,and he will bear their iniquities.
12Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,gand he will divide the spoils with the strong,hbecause he poured out his life unto death,and was numbered with the transgressors.For he bore the sin of many,and made intercession for the transgressors.

7When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!”
8I looked, and there before me was a pale horse!
Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
9When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained.
10They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?”*
11Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters,e*were killed just as they had been.
12I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,13and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind.14The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.
15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains.*16They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us f*from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!*17For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can withstand it?”

1A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.*2She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.*
3Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads.*4Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born.*
5She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”
And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.*
6The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
(3 YEARS 6 MONTHS)

7Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.*8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven.*9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:“Now have come the salvation and the powerand the kingdom of our God,and the authority of his Messiah.For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,who accuses them before our God day and night,has been hurled down.

11They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony;
they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death.

12Therefore rejoice, you heavensand you who dwell in them!But woe to the earth and the sea,because the devil has gone down to you!He is filled with fury,because he knows that his time is short.”

He who "lol"s last, shall "lol" best.

 

[sfontel]

Lol....whats your take?....Any questions?

You had a dream last night?

God bless!.....The blood Lamb is everywhere!....

 

[Abz2000]

Lol....whats your take?....Any questions?

You had a dream last night?

God bless!.....The blood Lamb is everywhere!....

The blood of the lamb is being poured from the cup of of the adulterous vampirical wh0re, (read about the king's cup hidden in the bag if you like).
Want a drink? Ima tellin' ya it's potent stuff and stirs storms in the forehead, wanna receive the cup in ya right hand?
You'll have to drink of the fury of the wrath of God with it though. It's no holy grail.
Better you drink from the living and pure stream - i got both, the wh0res one comes easy and at reduced defered rate, brimstone later though. I got both on offer though - you choose.

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you all,

I admire the comments from Antoine Leiris, he was the husband of one of the victims.

On Friday night you stole the life of an exceptional being, the love of my life, the mother of my son, but you won't have my hatred.

I don't know who you are and I don't want to know - you are dead souls. If this God for which you kill indiscriminately made us in his own image, every bullet in the body of my wife will have been a wound in his heart.

So no, I don't give you the gift of hating you. You are asking for it but responding to hatred with anger would be giving in to the same ignorance that made you what you are.

You want me to be afraid, to view my fellow countrymen with mistrust, to sacrifice my freedom for security.You have lost.

I saw her this morning. Finally, after many nights and days of waiting. She was just as beautiful as when she left on Friday night, just as beautiful as when I fell hopelessly in love over 12 years ago.

Of course I'm devastated with grief, I admit this small victory, but it will be short-lived. I know she will accompany us every day and that we will find ourselves in this paradise of free souls to which you'll never have access.

We are two, my son and I, but we are stronger than all the armies of the world.

I don't have any more time to devote to you, I have to join Melvil who is waking up from his nap. He is barely 17-months-old. He will eat his meals as usual, and then we are going to play as usual, and for his whole life this little boy will threaten you by being happy and free. Because no, you will not have his hatred either.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3rw6Dgpw4

In the spirit of praying for justice for all people

Eric