People who believe in innovations....?

'Abdullah said:
The Hadith I mentioned is in Sahih Bukhari and I don’t question its authenticity. So if a Hadith is authentic, I follow whatever it says. Now if you say one can pray missed prayers of a diseased person then one need to provide an evidence from Quran and Sunnah to make such a claim. Where is the evidence?
Anyways I am not here to debate, you can follow whatever seems right to you.
Ma’aSalaam
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I am sorry...I am not trying to argue with you...but I think I have not found the right answer yet.
the difference between the missed prayers and reading quraan is that missed prayers are fard to everyone...you cannot offer missed prayers for a living person either...but you can recite Quraan for a living person...so that example does not apply in this situation.
 
Ümit said:
so the first definition does not apply in this situation.

the second definition...I am not sure...we have only weak hadeeths...one saheeh hadeeth is the one you provided about charity...so the question is whether reading Quraan can be seen as a form of charity...
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That’s not the right question. Right question is did prophet (peace be upon him) and his companions did such a thing. If they did not then the confusion should be over.

Also if you go back to the Hadith I previously quoted, you will see that companions understood charity in this regard as spending money to benefit the people/ community and hoping the reward of that goes to the deceased person. And that’s also the understanding of all Muslim scholars.

Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The mother of Sa`d bin 'Ubada died in his absence. He said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! My mother died in my absence; will it be of any benefit for her if I give Sadaqa on her behalf?" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Yes," Sa`d said, "I make you a witness that I gave my garden called Al Makhraf in charity on her behalf."
 
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'Abdullah said:
That’s not the right question. Right question is did prophet (peace be upon him) and his companions did such a thing. If they did not then the confusion should be over.
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it seems that there are only weak hadeeths about that...so is the confusion over?
can that be a reason enough to call it bidaah?

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there is a saheeh hadeeth that says that the act of claiming things are haraam which are not is haraam.
so I would be careful to call this bidaah.
 
I am sorry...I am not arguing for the sake of arguing...
please do not be agitated. I just try to understand.

but am I saying something stupid? If I am then please correct me.
 
Ümit said:
it seems that there are only weak hadeeths about that...so is the confusion over?
can that be a reason enough to call it bidaah?

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there is a saheeh hadeeth that says that the act of claiming things are haraam which are not is haraam.
so I would be careful to call this bidaah.
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Which weak Hadith you are talking about?
And I am calling it biddah because it was not done by prophet ( peace be upon him) or his companions. If we start doing things with no foundation is our authentic sources then we will be no different from Jews and Christians.
 
There's an example given by sheikh assim al hakeem. If we decide that we would pray the nafil salah all together. There's nothing wrong in it, in fact it's a good form of worship but what contradicts it is the fact that it was not a practice of prophet or any sahabah. Hence, it's bidah. If we ourselves introduce new forms of worship , that means prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) didn't convey the whole message hence we are having need to inroduce new things to make the full religion. (Naudhubillah). Whereas prophet(pbuh) taught us the whole religion. That's why nobody can introduce any kind of practise which isn't in hadith and quran.... That hadith"Read quran over your dead" isn't sahih and it's narrators aren't known, that's why we can't follow it.
 
Now they are forcing my mother to read one or two juz. I have no idea what to do now? Should she read then? They are stubborn,they won't understand. Moreover they can start the argument is she doesn't read? :facepalm:
 
medico said:
Now they are forcing my mother to read one or two juz. I have no idea what to do now? Should she read then? They are stubborn,they won't understand. Moreover they can start the argument is she doesn't read? :facepalm:
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If you believe this to be biddah then stand firm and say “NO.” They will be upset but would not bother you again In Sha’a Allah.
 
Have you ever heard the likes of Ayesha Siddque and the rest of the sahabah recite Quran for the dead or do rosary beads for zikr?.....
I think this is common in bidah in every muslim home in Pakistan...
 

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