Planned to take out 7 countries!!

[Goku]

I'm not sure any of this relates to the topic....

Neither am I. :?

On topic, that is one of the reasons why the Democrats need to win the 2008 election. In the modern age, one country cannot force its views and values on another by violence and occupation.

 

[Philosopher]

It's useless responding to Ruggedtouch.

His posts are intellectually dishonest and all refutations of his posts will eventually be deleted by the moderators.

Let's stay on topic

 

[Goku]

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[Pygoscelis]

Why is America obsessed with spreading their ideology violently?? I though you were peace love people :?

What gave you that idea?

The USA has been in a constant state of armed conflict (interference in other countries, often very bloody) at least since the second world war. Don't buy into the US propaganda. They are not and have never been interested in peace.

 

[August]

No it didnt. The crusaders were sheer evil who massacred innocents and oppressed people under tyranny. The Muslims did the world a huge favour by defeating the crusaders.

The Crusades were 1000 years ago. give it a rest, all of you.

 

[Goku]

What gave you that idea?

The USA has been in a constant state of armed conflict (interference in other countries, often very bloody) at least since the second world war. Don't buy into the US propaganda. They are not and have never been interested in peace.

Thats why ts very dangerous to allow the US to get too far ahead of other countries. No offense to Americans who want peace, but if a lunatic gets into the white house, he can abuse the trust given to him such as Bush has done and use developments made by the former generations in US to threaten or violently occupy/wage wars on other countries.

As Abraham Lincoln said:

"Allow the president to invade a neighbouring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose—and you allow him to make war at pleasure."

Not only did this topic reveal the Bush "administration's" plan to wage wars against 7 countries in 5 years, the US also threatened to "bomb Pakistan back to the stoneage" unless Pakistan joins the US in the war against Afghanistan.

Outrageous, those nations have the right to exist and govern themselves, the US would never issue such threats or violence against Russia or China because they would probably defeat the US, is bullying weaker countries something the US prides itself on?

 

[guyabano]

Thats why ts very dangerous to allow the US to get too far ahead of other countries. No offense to Americans who want peace, but if a lunatic gets into the white house, he can abuse the trust given to him such as Bush has done and use developments made by the former generations in US to threaten or violently occupy/wage wars on other countries.

As Abraham Lincoln said:

"Allow the president to invade a neighbouring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose—and you allow him to make war at pleasure."

Not only did this topic reveal the Bush "administration's" plan to wage wars against 7 countries in 5 years, the US also threatened to "bomb Pakistan back to the stoneage" unless Pakistan joins the US in the war against Afghanistan.

Outrageous, those nations have the right to exist and govern themselves, the US would never issue such threats or violence against Russia or China because they would probably defeat the US, is bullying weaker countries something the US prides itself on?

Good Post ! Agree ! :thumbs_up

 

[guyabano]

LMAO! Do you think the Islamic empire fell because of the Crusades?? Wow, I sense strong stupidity here

Do you not know there was something called the "Ottoman Empire" a century after the Crusade that lasted 600-700 years??? There was also called the "Mughal Empire" and the "Safavid Empire??"

I urge you to leave this forum to avoid further humiliation. Your ignorance is glaring when it comes to history.

I also sense stupidy here !

The Ottoman Empire: Does it still exist today ? NO !
The Mughal Empire : Does it exist today ? NO !
The Safavid Empire: And this one? Exist? NO !

Conclusion: They all collapsed !

So what was so wrong on his words?

 

[HBot 5000]

In an interview with Amy Goodman on March 2, 2007, U.S. General Wesley Clark (Ret.), explains that the Bush Administration planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, Iran

http://statusquo.muslimways.com/2007/04/27/the-plan-according-to-us-general-wesley-clark-ret/

I think all those countries listed has been attacked or were seriously threatened by this administration.

Totally disgusting

 

[islamirama]

"We used to be allies with Osama Bin Laden & Saddam Hussain" - Republican Ron Paul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEJJ1GHteLM

 

[MTAFFI]

Outrageous, those nations have the right to exist and govern themselves, the US would never issue such threats or violence against Russia or China because they would probably defeat the US, is bullying weaker countries something the US prides itself on?

You really think so huh? The US has the most powerful military in the world today, there is not a country that can defeat it, Russia is just now getting back to its feet and China is only an emerging super power because of the US. What does that tell you?

 

[islamirama]

You really think so huh? The US has the most powerful military in the world today, there is not a country that can defeat it, Russia is just now getting back to its feet and China is only an emerging super power because of the US. What does that tell you?

US gives Israel billions in aid every year and yet can't take care of its own social security or other programs and citizens. It also gives most advance technology and weapons to the zionist terrorists. Israel's Air Force is best in the world, better than US, thanks to US.

China is the only country with most surplus (over 900 billion), all it has to do is pull only 5% of its investments out of US and US is a thirdworld country over night. China has great army and technology, they recently shot down US spy satellite with a laser. Unlike US china plays down what it has rather then boast about it. And US is a dieing empire, it's just kicking and throwing tantrims to prove its still high and mighty, trying to get a few good barks out but no one fears it anymore.

 

[MTAFFI]

US gives Israel billions in aid every year and yet can't take care of its own social security or other programs and citizens. It also gives most advance technology and weapons to the zionist terrorists. Israel's Air Force is best in the world, better than US, thanks to US.

China is the only country with most surplus (over 900 billion), all it has to do is pull only 5% of its investments out of US and US is a thirdworld country over night. China has great army and technology, they recently shot down US spy satellite with a laser. Unlike US china plays down what it has rather then boast about it. And US is a dieing empire, it's just kicking and throwing tantrims to prove its still high and mighty, trying to get a few good barks out but no one fears it anymore.

I am not sure you know much about world economics or military might... The US is certainly not a dying empire, the thought is laughable, the US is still in its infant stages as a country. Here is the thing, the US is not on the same continent as the Chinese or Russia, which is a huge tactical advantage, since China doesnt consume its entire continent. The US can set up base in Europe or wherever and attack from there, not only that but Chinas army is comprised of people, not technology people are vulnerable, technology is not. As far as the spy satelite, good for them they shot down a low flying satelite, do you not think the US could wipe out their satelites in an instant? If you dont you are mistaken. The Chinese wouldnt reach US soil, but theirs would be tarnished and broken by the end. About your little spill on the Chinese investments, tell me what investments do they have in the US? There is a trade surplus, which means they export to us, and the thing is we can make everything they make and it would benefit our economy, things would just be a bit more expensive. What would happen to Chinas economy is the country that imports almost half of their exports stopped? However this is all pointless to discuss, since China and the US are not going to war with each other anytime soon, since they too have a common interest with each other. Why arent they puppets of the US, they seem to go along with the flow too?

 

[Muezzin]

This thread started off interesting, but has become so spamalicious with off-topic posts that I just have to lock it, dahlings.

Thread closed.