Police

[anonymous]

I'm a muslim, living in England. I was wondering what the Islamic stance is on a muslim joining the police? Considering my job would be to restore law and order to the streets?

 

[Ghazi]

Go for it, we need muslims in positions of power.

 

[seeker_of_ilm]

I agree with the above poster. A muslim in a position of authority, in the police would be great. Also, if non-muslims saw muslims also giving a service to the country, regardless of the persons religion, race, then I think it can quash some misconceptions and also the tensions perhaps.

 

[786rani]

go for it show them what us muslims can do even though most ppl think we hate our western countries.
rani

 

[chacha_jalebi]

i tink its heavy, i wantd 2 b a police officer but u hav 2 b lik 40 b4 u can join d undacova cops so i didnt wana do it den

der aint nower in islam, wer it says dnt do justice, we r told 2 do justice ebery wer!!
but go 4 it man, we need muslims in d police force, its not lik ur killin ne1, jus doin justice, n sum1 mite say bla bla u cnt work 4 d british govt, well if ne1 says dat, tell em 2 move countries cos we pay tax n bare ova tins 2 d govt, so bro my personal opinion go 4 it!!! neway we sud hav copper contacts if ya get moi

 

[seeker_of_ilm]

i tink its heavy, i wantd 2 b a police officer but u hav 2 b lik 40 b4 u can join d undacova cops so i didnt wana do it den

der aint nower in islam, wer it says dnt do justice, we r told 2 do justice ebery wer!!
but go 4 it man, we need muslims in d police force, its not lik ur killin ne1, jus doin justice, n sum1 mite say bla bla u cnt work 4 d british govt, well if ne1 says dat, tell em 2 move countries cos we pay tax n bare ova tins 2 d govt, so bro my personal opinion go 4 it!!! neway we sud hav copper contacts if ya get moi

Yeah people like them get on my nerves. "This countries this....this countries that...you can't work for this country...." Well these are the same people that are

A) Either paying taxes to this country or
B) Claiming benefit from this country


I don't like the governments foreign policy, but as citizens of this country, we should offer something to the PEOPLE of this country. Muslims need to get out there, work in all sectors, we need to see more muslim police men, firefighters.....

 

[Ghazi]

Yeah people like them get on my nerves. "This countries this....this countries that...you can't work for this country...." Well these are the same people that are

A) Either paying taxes to this country or
B) Claiming benefit from this country


I don't like the governments foreign policy, but as citizens of this country, we should offer something to the PEOPLE of this country. Muslims need to get out there, work in all sectors, we need to see more muslim police men, firefighters.....

Salaam

I agree only thing I think a muslim shouldn't participate in is the Army.

 

[Umar001]

Chacha jalebi, are u islamgyal with a different ID? and what does PIND mean? Im from london never heard of it.

And Bro I would be careful, cos I have seen some 'fatwas' on muslims in the Us army and so on, so just consult someone with regards to this, to be on the safe side.

And please people dont jump all over me teling me its different i know it is but im just thinking about being on the safe side

 

[seeker_of_ilm]

Heres a fatwaa on policing in the US

In principle, to assist the oppressed is permissible and an act of virtue.
To be party to oppression is Haraam (strictly prohibited).

The above criterior should be used to determine your decision as a police
officer. If your position as an officer will be only to combat crime, and
assist the troubled, etc. then there is no prohibition in becoming an
officer. Surely, as an officer, you will be required to follow rules and
principles. You should measure those rules and principles through the
abovementioned criteria and decide on that.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

 

[glo]

I'm a muslim, living in England. I was wondering what the Islamic stance is on a muslim joining the police? Considering my job would be to restore law and order to the streets?

I don't know the Islamic stance on this ... but other people have answered that already.
I think it is always a good idea when people from other faiths and/or ethnic backgrounds enter public services! In fact, many public sectors actively encourage applications from such 'minority' groups.

Peace.

 

[chacha_jalebi]

Chacha jalebi, are u islamgyal with a different ID? and what does PIND mean? Im from london never heard of it.

And Bro I would be careful, cos I have seen some 'fatwas' on muslims in the Us army and so on, so just consult someone with regards to this, to be on the safe side.

And please people dont jump all over me teling me its different i know it is but im just thinking about being on the safe side

who islamgyal? n y wud i wana make a fake id, i aint sad cum on man, u say im islam gal den u call me bro?:?

 

[Muhammad Waqqas]

The Job needs to be a Halaal one. Check out the duties that you'll have to do if you're in the Police and see if they contradict Sahria'h. If they do, abstrain from it. If they don't, well no problem then of course. And yes! We need muslmis in power!

 

[Re.TiReD]

i wanted to be a coppa!! i could just imagine the headlines 'Hijaabi sista coppa' lol they even came to skool (back wen i was still at skool) lol and she saw that i was really interested and she took ma details. apparantly you can start straight afta college...you dont even have to go col in the first place but you have to be 18...altho i guess that would be pretty low tech stuff you'd be going into...promotions and the like probably 10 years later!! lol :giggling: but yeah...GO FOR IT!! das wot i'd say.

but one more thing...do you see any justice in the coppas nowadays?? if your profession is gonna be beating up muslim youth and the like at peacefull demonstrations is it really the job for you?? (i'm referring to the programme on the bradford riots that came on several weeks ago) would you really wanna be part of that? :? i dunno...but the decision lies with the individual...good luck with whatever you do tho!! :sister:

 

[Ghazi]

who islamgyal? n y wud i wana make a fake id, i aint sad cum on man, u say im islam gal den u call me bro?:?

:giggling: :giggling:

 

[Rabi'ya]

brother/sister

In principle, i agree with Muslims joining the police, however, i have issues with certain situations that u may find yourself in. For example, you may be on patrol with one female and one male officer - this could lead to fitnah. Also, how do u feel about dealing with places like night clubs/pubs etc.

Simple things ilke this would stop me from joining the police - even tho i had considered it in the past.

As I said, u need to look at the pros and cons and make a decision for yourself.

I do know a brother who is a police man and he says he finds things difficult sometimes, but on the whole he enjoys the job. It can certainly bea rewarding one.



Rabi'ya:rose:

 

[anonymous]

Any more on the islamic opinion regarding policing? Also peoples personal opinions of problems I might face as a muslim police officer.

Be honest, I need to know before I decide Insha'allah

 

[glo]

From this and other threads I gather than there are sometimes concerns about Muslim people entering public services jobs (we had another discussion on becoming a nurse in the health service).
Although I can understand that, if some aspects of the job are haram, it may be better to avoid the job; I can't help but feel that it is all the harder for the Muslim community if their minority group is under represented in the public services.
It would be such a good way to make the main population understand your faith better, and perhaps to even influence policy making, if more Muslims were in the public services!

Just my penny's worth!

Peace.

 

[SirZubair]

My uncle joined the London Police force in 2003,allhumdulilah,he is still alive..

 

[Muezzin]

I'm a muslim, living in England. I was wondering what the Islamic stance is on a muslim joining the police? Considering my job would be to restore law and order to the streets?

Just don't get shot or stabbed.

:beard:

 

[dishdash]

This is one of the most positive threads I have seen on this forum and one of the first I have seen that doesn't call for the destruction of Israel... <sigh> Alhamdulilah.

Seriously though, the reason why the Sahaba who settled in Abyssynia were so successful (and indeed in helping shape the destiny of Islam) was the integration into Abyssinian society (at all levels including the army) as opposed to assimilation.

Joining the police and representing the Moslem community isn't just about showing that we care about ourselves either. It shows non-Moslems that we are standing up and being counted - that we are are capable of caring about non-Moslems and non-Moslem society too. That we are true stakeholders.

Many non-Moslems have little or no contact with our brothers and sisters beyond what they see on the news, and of course, that is rarely reflecting the Islam we know as the norm. That is why we need as much representation in all fields of society as we can possibly get. We need to show that we are no shadowy fringe group as some non-Moslems would like to make out and some Moslems are happy to let eventuate.

Here in Australia we have the same issues the Moslems in GB have. We are only now starting to realise that participation can often be it's own reward. Brothers and sisters joining charity events, joining bush fire patrols, joining surf life savers, etc etc.

We still have very few police but alhamdulilah that is changing too. My wife's cousin has been a policeman here for a few years now, and my wife herself was accepted to the academy, only to end up finding out she was pregnant the week before she was to leave... oops! She was told she would have been the first hijaabi in NSW!

I would encourage all brothers and sisters to get into the force and represent. Positive community role models, certainly here in Oz, are thin on the ground. Insh'Allah the rewards of daw'ah and otherwise will abound for those who take such a step.

ANd remember, by representing, we become our own media - the most powerful of all. We are each our own BBC, ITV, Channel 4 (though maybe not a Channel 5 though!) rolled into one.