Poll About "ban On Face Veil", please vote No

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PurestAmbrosia said:
(So) is an incomplete sentence-- I am not sure what you are driving at? I think said statements are pretty clear and need no further elaboration ...

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It means I don't give a rats arse what "my forefathers" sinned. As I said I don't believe in inhereditary guilt :)

Peace!

You'll have to move back on topic now otherwise this will close...
 
England said:
It means I don't give a rats arse what "my forefathers" sinned. As I said I don't believe in inhereditary guilt :)
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Naturally--

England said:
You'll have to move back on topic now otherwise this will close...
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this is the very crux of this topic --if it should close otherwise -- then so be it-- I've said my peace ...
 
Strictly speaking, this topic is about the poll in the first post rather than the history of the British Empire. But I just moderate this place, what would I know? :p
 
Khadijah79 said:
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I wear a burka and I'm very sure that people can tell if your a woman wearing one... by your voice. and the way a woman holds her body......

And if for security reason's a female member of staff will take you into a private room, so the woman can show her face....

And I have never seen a male wearing a burka as it is not meant for them :rollseyes

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So you didnt hear of that man who wore one and got out of the country then!
 
AvarAllahNoor said:

So you didnt hear of that man who wore one and got out of the country then!
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Yes I did.... there security can't be that great then......

That would not happen over here in the UK

And that man did some very bad things...

And on judgement day Allah :arabic2:

Will make judgement on him and he'll make judgement on all of us.....

And he dressed like a woman :hmm: is that haram it's self I believe so
 
Khadijah79 said:
Yes I did.... there security can't be that great then......

That would not happen over here in the UK

And that man did some very bad things...

And on judgement day Allah :arabic2:

Will make judgement on him and he'll make judgement on all of us.....

And he dressed like a woman :hmm: is that haram it's self I believe so
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:sl: Khadijah Sister of Islam

Part of the fitrah (natural inclinations of mankind) is that men should preserve the masculinity which Allaah has created in them, and women should preserve the femininity which Allaah has created in them. Without this, decent human life becomes impossible. Men resembling women and vice versa is something which goes against man's innate nature (fitrah) and opens the door to corruption and widespread promiscuity. The ruling in sharee'ah is that when it is stated that the person who does a thing is cursed, that thing is haraam. Ibn 'Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him and his father) reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Allaah has cursed the men who make themselves look like women and the women who make themselves look like men." (Reported by al-Bukhaari; see al-Fath, 10/332). Ibn 'Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him and his father) also reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Allaah has cursed effeminate men and masculine women." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, see al-Fath, 3\10/333).The resemblance may be in the way they move, walk and speak.

Similarly, the two sexes are not permitted to resemble one another in dress or by wearing anything that is specifically for the other sex. So a man is not permitted to wear necklaces, bracelets, anklets or earrings, etc., as is widespread among hippies and the like. Women are not permitted to wear things that are specifically for men, like the thawb (long garment worn by men in Arab countries), shirts, etc.; whatever she wears should be different in style, details and colour. The evidence that the two sexes should not resemble one another in dress is found in the hadeeth narrated by Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him): "Allaah has cursed the man who wears women's clothes and the woman who wear men's clothes." (Reported by Abu Dawud, 4/355; see also Saheeh al-Jaami', 5071).

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Sister of Islam
 
England said:
I just don't like it. It's a backwards thing. I don't like people wearing their hoodies up either. They cause too many problems. If someone started speaking to me with their face covered I'd burst out laughing, no offence.
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None taken, but surely (religion aside) an individual is entitled to wear what he/she wants without worrying what other people might say. No one is asking YOU to wear it.
 
Philosopher said:
It's laughable how the greatest colonial power in the world (once) is now vulnerable to a piece of cloth.

Also, bikinis are a threat to Christian morality.
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We're not vulnerable we just don't like seeing people wearing it, having to communicate with a cloth. It's just not British. This is Britain, NOT the middle east. I'm not bothered about Christianity. It's not my religion. Most people in this country are secularists...
 
We're not vulnerable we just don't like seeing people wearing it, having to communicate with a cloth. It's just not British. This is Britain, NOT the middle east. I'm not bothered about Christianity. It's not my religion. Most people in this country are secularists...
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And I hate having to make Eye contact with people, so might as well pluck their eyes out innit?
 
England said:
We're not vulnerable we just don't like seeing people wearing it, having to communicate with a cloth. It's just not British. This is Britain, NOT the middle east. I'm not bothered about Christianity. It's not my religion. Most people in this country are secularists...
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You are contradicting yourself. In your previous post you claimed that the veil is a "threat."

This is indeed Britain, and laws go by the will of British citizens, Muslim or not. Apparently the Brits have better things to worry about than other people clothings.

Also, it doesn't matter if "most" people in Britain are secularists. There is no separation between state and church in England. You should also verify your assertions. According to the latest (2007) Tearfund survey, 53% of Brits are Christians.
 
Philosopher said:
You are contradicting yourself. In your previous post you claimed that the veil is a "threat."

This is indeed Britain, and laws go by the will of British citizens, Muslim or not. Apparently the Brits have better things to worry about than other people clothings.

Also, it doesn't matter if "most" people in Britain are secularists. There is no separation between state and church in England. You should also verify your assertions. According to the latest (2007) Tearfund survey, 53% of Brits are Christians.
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My real reason is I just don't like it. It's backwards, it's not British. This is Britain, not the middle east. I don't want to see people behind cloths. I like to identify people. I like identify those who steal my pen, my wallet, my mobile phone, stick 2 fingers up at me. I like to identify those who rant their hatred, murder suspects, paedophiliacs etc, etc.

And if you don't like the way we dress then the middle eastern nations will accommodate you.
 
^^ Yeah, after they ban the veil, they'll want Sikhs to take off their turbans (for the sake of communication). lol
 

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