Preserving British Identity: The British National Party’s Immigration Policy

[جوري]

Well, why was it ok for Arabs to conquer Palestine, but completely unacceptable for Israel?

Arabs didn't conquer Palestine, you should have someone teach you some history.. The people of Palestine are the canaanites and have long had a history way before the first Jewish tribes emigrated there, (in the bible Abraham) purchases a land from these people to bury his wife, denoting something rather obvious, canaanites like the Phoenicians ARE Semites, Jews conveniently leave that fact out while making semites out of Elamite and Ludim. The folks of the region embraced christianity, then Islam, are the people who have always been and not some European Jews and descendants of the Khazar. Further the Muslims ruled the land for 1500 yrs, whereas the jews ruled it for 411. So No one really gives a D*** what 'Israel' thinks and apparently teaches. I hope for your sake you peddle this info with like folks because you're opinion would be seriously annihilated if you were in the presence of some real scholars

It is so funny how the average westerner is so under-educated, but I can't blame them, I have come across a neighbor's daughter's 12th grade history book and it is filled with this kind of ****, it is no wonder the average westerner is so under-educated and filled with hatred!

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Arabs didn't conquer Palestine, you should have someone teach you some history.. The people of Palestine are the canaanites and have long had a history way before the first Jewish tribes emigrated there, (in the bible Abraham) purchases a land from these people to bury his wife, denoting something rather obvious, canaanites like the Phoenicians ARE Semites, Jews conveniently leave that fact out while making semites out of Elamite and Ludim. The folks of the region embraced christianity, then Islam, are the people who have always been and not some European Jews and descendants of the Khazar. Further the Muslims ruled the land for 1500 yrs, whereas the jews ruled it for 411. So No one really gives a D*** what 'Israel' thinks and apparently teaches. I hope for your sake you peddle this info with like folks because you're opinion would be seriously annihilated if you were in the presence of some real scholars

It is so funny how the average westerner is so under-educated, but I can't blame them, I have come across a neighbor's daughter's 12th grade history book and it is filled with this kind of ****, it is no wonder the average westerner is so under-educated and filled with hatred!

From what I know Muslims did conquer Palestine and only after that did the people accept Islam.

 

[جوري]

From what I know Muslims did conquer Palestine and only after that did the people accept Islam.

Muslims giving da3wa to folks who accepted it and parting with scholars, hardly translates to a mass genocide of the region and a replacement of the indigenous population by the conquering folks.. are for real?

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Muslims giving da3wa to folks who accepted it and parting with scholars, hardly translates to a mass genocide of the region and a replacement of the indigenous population by Arab folks.. are for real?

All I said is that Arabs came, fought the Estern Romans, and then created their own rule, which is essentially what Israel did in 1948.
The analogy was only meant to ilustrate the difference between imigration today and centuries ago.

 

[جوري]

All I said is that Arabs came, fought the Estern Romans, and then created their own rule, which is essentially what Israel did in 1948.
The analogy was only meant to ilustrate the difference between imigration today and centuries ago.

'Eastern Romans' Didn't own philistine to have handed it over.
As for immigration today and centuries ago.. what can I say, England especially has alot of due debts to most countries in the world
Hong Kong, India, China, Africa, the middle east.. frankly, they should be so grateful they remain a sovereign state instead of quarry to the empires they've left in ruins.. But they are cowards, as they have always been and going back to their roots of pillage divide and conquer is imprinted in their genes.. for folks composed of entirely recessive traits, I have often wondered where this 'superiority' came from.. even the man they worship came out of the middle east!

all the best

 

[Whatsthepoint]

'Eastern Romans' Didn't own philistine to have handed it over.

Well did Palestinians own it in 1948?

 

[جوري]

Well did Palestinians own it in 1948?

own what? The Muslim region should belong to a Muslim empire which dissolved with the last of the ottomans.. no thanks to England..

Every state has its sovereign and all the Muslim states are under one Ummah and Israel doesn't figure into the equation unless they desire existence under Islamic rule!

 

[Whatsthepoint]

own what? The Muslim region should belong to a Muslim empire which dissolved with the last of the ottomans.. no thanks to England..

Every state has its sovereign and all the Muslim states are under one Ummah and Israel doesn't figure into the equation unless they desire existence under Islamic rule!

Im asking why was it ok for Arabs to conquer Palestine from Eastern Roman Empire and wrong for Jews to conquer it from Arabs?

 

[جوري]

Im asking why was it ok for Arabs to conquer Palestine from Eastern Roman Empire and wrong for Jews to conquer it from Arabs?

Jerusalem was conquered about 638 by the Caliph Umar (Omar) who gave his protection to its inhabitants. Muslim powers controlled the region until the early 1900's. The rulers allowed Christians and Jews to keep their religions. However, most of the local population gradually accepted Islam and the Arab-Islamic culture of their rulers. Jerusalem (Al-Quds) became holy to Muslims as the site where,

written by a Jew
Ami Isseroff
(Updated July 3, 2008)



http://www.mideastweb.org/briefhistory.htm


in Brief Muslims, didn't build an apartheid wall, displace folks from their home to build their settlements and open fire randomly for some ethnic cleansing every so often while alleging the other side are terrorists..
and actually as per thread title and your views here, you feel it ok to preserve British identity, but don't feel it is ok to preserve Muslim identity. Which would qualify your opinion under blatant hypocrisy





all the best

 

[Whatsthepoint]

They conquered it and that's all I claimed.
Israel was an analogy, it was ok to conquer states in the past, whereas nowadays it isn't and most people find the creation of Israel morally wrong and so do I. Now, after all the wars Arabs waged against Israel and lost, I support its existence, however alongside an idependent Palestinian state.
Israel was a reply to this psot

Do they not remember that their own ancestors were 'immigrants' too.
They just happened to be white.

Back then there was no concept of nation etc, whereas it is today and the fact that white british ancestors were essentially immigrants doesn't morally prevent their offspirng from defending their nation today.

 

[جوري]

They conquered it and that's all I claimed.
Israel was an analogy, it was ok to conquer states in the past, whereas nowadays it isn't and most people find the creation of Israel morally wrong and so do I. Now, after all the wars Arabs waged against Israel and lost, I support its existence, however alongside an idependent Palestinian state.
Israel was a reply to this psot

Back then there was no concept of nation etc, whereas it is today and the fact that white british ancestors were essentially immigrants doesn't morally prevent their offspirng from defending their nation today.

The above post which I have purposely quoted from a Non-Muslim should provoke a second look at the difference between Islamic rule and western rule for starters. Further you don't know how well received and treated the Jews in countries like Egypt or Palestine, before their descent into foraying which is apparent from ancient times when they made out with Egypt's gold-- though they often have a habit of biting the hand that feeds them.

Their mere expansion already tells me how much they want to co-exist.. and white brits are allowed to defend their lands all they want, they will be however met with very strong opposition from without and within and they'd better be ready for it.. if they talk the talk!

 

[GreyKode]

whereas nowadays it isn't and most people find the creation of Israel morally wrong and so do I. Now, after all the wars Arabs waged against Israel and lost, I support its existence, however alongside an idependent Palestinian state.
Israel was a reply to this psot

heh..hypocrite.
Israel stole lands from other arab countries, and Egypt was one of them who fought back to get its land.
What happened when Iraq wanted to invade kuwait, the u.s. came along to drive them away, why is it that when the arabs come to aid palestine againts the oppressor the world calls foul.