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I have an odd feeling that we may not have yet seen either the democrat or republican nominee enter the race yet. I'm thinking somebody like Gore may throw his hat into the ring at the last moment nad snap up the presidency. If not him, somebody else.
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Hi Chiteng:
Where did this come from and what is it in response to?
Regards,
Grenville
Where did this come from and what is it in response to?
Regards,
Grenville
You know, I agree. I had the very same nagging feeling about Giuliani for a while now. Of course, it's hard to say, but every time I hear him on the whole war thingy I have this feeling he doesn't really get it.
It is a responce to all the speculation I see in this thread.
What is ignored is that she has roughly 60% of the female vote.
That is an enormous edge. Guliani will never overcome it.
Which may actually be good, since he is very dangerous.
hilary will not be the next president
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I'm a little skeptical of the 60% of the female vote statistic too, do you have a source for that particular number?
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bwuahahahahahah!!
I hope Ron Paul or Romney becomes the Republican candidate. Anyone else will be slaughtered as they get closer to 2008. I hope Ron Paul wins, Obama would be my second choice.
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Paul seems to be the best candidate so far, although i'm concerned that he wants to take citizenship away from anyone born in the US whose parents are illegal.
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I do find it odd that in 2004 the Dems put up Kerry because he shot a Vietcong teenager in Vietnam and Hillary Clinton was said to be "unelectable".
Now she is the poll leader. :?
Any Republican is going to have a hard time in 2008 because Americans want the War in Iraq to go away, even if they don't have a clear indication yet from Hillary exactly what she would do instead.
Even if she is elected, it will only be a four year ordeal because Americans will grow tired of her annoying voice. I'm not talking about her statements, which, on occaission, when she is triangulating, can in some odd fashion begin to make sense. I am talking about her voice quality itself, which is incredibly grating. I don't really blame Bill for spending 300+ days a year apart from her.
Now she is the poll leader. :?
Any Republican is going to have a hard time in 2008 because Americans want the War in Iraq to go away, even if they don't have a clear indication yet from Hillary exactly what she would do instead.
Even if she is elected, it will only be a four year ordeal because Americans will grow tired of her annoying voice. I'm not talking about her statements, which, on occaission, when she is triangulating, can in some odd fashion begin to make sense. I am talking about her voice quality itself, which is incredibly grating. I don't really blame Bill for spending 300+ days a year apart from her.
I am honestly not to worried about Hilary. Bill Richardson and Joe Biden both have beating out Hilary by vast margins in straw polls, but then again, the polls that are taken right now are just a joke, Hilary is good for getting people to watch the competition for the democratic representative but actually going to the voting booth and checking her off is another thing. Like you said her voice is worse than nails on a chalk board, and in my opinion, she is really just plain unlikable, she is ugly and manish, her voice is terrible and her husband didnt inhale :coolious:
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lets get this straight.I don't hate the country,nor the freedom the citizens of United States.But I have lots of problems with its foreign policy.Me being a Bangladeshi ,actually have a got a reason to have anti-American sentiments(it obviously had its own interests) but I don't,unless you count those which rose inside mainly due to its policy in the MidEast.
Besides the US is a country which donates funds through missionaries(which I hate ,really hate) and sometimes does a lot of bullying.
Besides the US is a country which donates funds through missionaries(which I hate ,really hate) and sometimes does a lot of bullying.
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Wow. No doubt about that. The donation of funds to serve poor people. Gosh, that is really despicable.
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The missionaries are really barbaric animals. They don't care about hte suffering of the people, all they are concerned about is the number of converts they can get as if trying to beat each other's quota. They often give you food in exchange for your conversion and if you refuse then no food for you or no bicycle or something that you need. When the Tsunami hit, the missionaries went to india to do the same crap they do in africa. They came with trucks of food, blankets and stuff to give but they were also giving bibles and demanding the people convert first. The indian locals refused and the trucks turned around and left without giving any aide. This enraged the Tsunami struck victims and made headlines in the local news papers.
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I hope I will excused if I say that sounds like unadulterated bovine excrement.
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The growing movement to hunt souls in Muslim lands-by missionaries who often pass as aid workers, teachers, or business owners-has raised hackles outside the evangelical world. Missionaries themselves acknowledge that their work endangers the lives of converts, and critics charge that it disrupts the delivery of humanitarian aid and fuels resentment of Westerners during one of the most dangerous moments in recent history. But to those at the heart of the movement, including Rick Love's students, any damage done by their work is outweighed by the importance of their mission: to wipe out Islam. "I believe it's a false religion, and I'd like to see it be gone," says Kim McHugh, a 36-year-old CIU student who is training to convert Iranian refugees in Turkey. Her husband Brent agrees. "If they don't have a chance to experience Jesus," he says, "they're going to hell."
Hooper remembers reviewing a proposal by a Christian agency to send veterinarians to help impoverished Fulani cattle herders in West Africa. But the plan had a caveat: "You don't get the veterinarian unless you take the missionary," he says. "When people are in desperate circumstances, they'll do things they otherwise wouldn't do."
Robert Macpherson, security director for the aid group care, remembers serving as a U.S. Marine in Somalia during the early 1990s, when some 200 organizations were working to stave off famine in the war-ravaged country. "It was dangerous, dangerous, dangerous," he recalls. Evangelicals only made matters worse, he says, by showing up at food-distribution sites and handing out Christian literature, giving the impression that food aid was contingent on conversion to Christianity. "The next thing we know, they got themselves in the middle of a riot," Macpherson recalls. Angered by the missionaries, Somalis climbed over one another to steal food and set trucks on fire. "They were desperate," he says. "They were dying. This was an emergency."
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want to eat that "unadulterated bovine excrement" of yours now?
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dude I live in one country where these missionaries are a lot active.they usually blackmail but yes there are good people too in the aid work.I don't know if there are Islamic agencies doing such missionary work.some agencies might spread what you call the "wahabbi ideology" nothing more.who knows though.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/050116/139/2j1rp.html
don't want to sound anti-Christian(it really hurts me) but stuff like these happened.maybe these were isolated incidents.But there was a massive influx of missionaries in Indonesia after the tsunami.
okay fine lets end it here.I apologize for going off-topic.
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