Problems with my mother

Salam sis,

I think Eric raised a very important point regarding PMT. And you seem to think that your mother might be suffering from PMT too. Is there any way you can bring this to your mother's attention? I know it'll be difficult to approach your mother directly. Maybe you can pick up a few leaflets from your surgery and leave them lying around where she is bound to see them?
I'm sure if she knew she'd want to do something about it inshaAllah. May I ask if it's only you who has to bear the brunt of your mothers anger? Or is it other family members too?


wa'alaikum aslam
 
I totally agree with sis ya_Giney-there is something much deeper affecting the way your mum treats you..
she might have been treated the same in her childhood by her mother or someone close and is unconsciously treating her own daughter the same way.
usually the person hates what happened to them but are unaware they are doing the same thing themsleves...
 
Sister... wallah, there are tears in my eyes. I'm saddened that anyone has to go through that. But sister, what north malaysian said is very true. You only have one mother, and that is the mother Allah has given you. I guarantee you will only truly appreciate your mother if you witness her death. And that's when all the guilt is going to flood into your heart. I advise that you have sabr, ask Allah for strength. Whatever your mother says to you, try your best to reply with loving words. Because trust me sister, you're going to regret it sooner or later if you don't. Take the example of Nabi Ibrahim (AS), who's father was so harsh, and Nabi Ibrahim (AS) was so merciful towards his father.

And Abraham prayed for his father's forgiveness only because of a promise he had made to him. But when it became clear to him that he was an enemy to Allah, he dissociated himself from him: for Abraham was most tender-hearted, forbearing. [009.114]

Please sister, just try and have patience. Your mother, no matter how she is, is till your mother. You completely have my sympathies, and I realise you are the victim here, but I pray that Allah may reward you for your sabr, ameen. Paradise is for the believers, and you will have to pass many tests in order to prove your belief.

:wasalamex
 
Thanks sisters. Muslimah sis, she knows that she suffers from hormonal probelms and she takes B vitamins for this. She also knows shes got PMT.

I think I figured it out though - she is quite touchy about the fact that she married someone she wasnt happy marrying and that all her life (she was the youngest of 7 kids) she has been 'left out' of everything and that no one bothered about her. She does not work outside the house which I think is an admirable thing in this day and age, but since ALL women she has encountered have some sort of degree, are working or have 'achieved something' for themselves, she is very aware of this. I think she feels as if she is no good at anything and may have low self esteem herself.

Lately (since the last 5 years), she has become obsessed with cleaning. She's always cleaning. And i know most mums do, but this i sbeyond the joke. Everyone always comments on her cleaning. She makes us clean along with her and is constantly (i mean 24/7) going on and on and on and on and on about this or that crumb left on the floor, how someone forgot to wipe the smugde on the window, why the microwave has only been cleaned once today, whether we cleaned behind the dustbin, every nitty gritty gritty gritty gritty thing you can think of. And she always puts me down in front of others for not doing 'enough' - the truth is, I do stuff for her all day long, but she says I dont do anything. God be with the person who actually doesnt clean to her standard!

I just wonder whether she will realise what she is doing is madness. She ackowlegdes it is madness sometimes, but shes quite adamant in doing it.

My father is not talking to me either. She has a habit of exaggerting things - and I have a feeling she has said something really bad about me to him. He wont talk to me.
 
I told her I'm sorry again today but she told me to go away and that 'your sister never gives me trouble like this, only you do'.
I even offered to make her some tea, but she roughly replied with eyes glaring 'NO!'
I thought a mothers heart is very soft and melts at the sight of her children. I guess I was wrong.
 
Sis, I will pray for you inshallah, may Allah reward you for your patience!
Peace
 
I told her I'm sorry again today but she told me to go away and that 'your sister never gives me trouble like this, only you do'.
I even offered to make her some tea, but she roughly replied with eyes glaring 'NO!'
I thought a mothers heart is very soft and melts at the sight of her children. I guess I was wrong.

Oh sis *hugzzzz*

:sl:

You've been so brave so far sis and I know you can continue doing so. Allah is The All-Seeing and All-Hearing. Your patience and efforts will not be in vain inshaAllah.

Your mother is suffering from very low self-esteem due to her own childhood experiences. How awful it must have been for to have to marry someone she didn't want. Then to bear children from him, couldn't have brought her as much joy as she would've felt if she'd married from her own will. Yet she stayed and tried her best to keep this family together. She tried to make the best of a situation that was forced upon her. It makes her present behaviour understandable. God knows how much pain and unhappiness she is harbouring deep within her soul. There could also be an element of jealousy/resentment in that there are reminders of how different her childhood was to her own childrens.

Mothers aren't saintly holy creatures. They are normal humanbeings with their own strengths and weaknesses and responsibilities to shoulder. It is not your fault what is happening. But whatever went wrong in your mother's life haunts her and for some reason she takes it out on you. She doesn't feel that she has an identity of her own. In her eyes she is just someone's wife, mother, daughter.. but not an individual in her own right. That can be very disabling to our own self-worth.

There may be another factor present which contributes to the way she treats you differently to your siblings. She may have had you when she was at a very low point in her life. She may have been suffered from post-natal depression, which went unrecognised. Not many mothers can admit to not bonding with their child. She is a victim too. A victim of her lack of self-esteem and a victim of a culture which against Islamic teachings forced her into a marriage she did not want.

My sweetest sis, you can help in healing her. It's so sweet how you made tea for her. yes, she rejected it. But although heart acknowledged your action, pride and anger got in the way of showing appreciation. Continue in your efforts, don't let one rejection put you off. Her barriers are too strong to come down with one strike. let her know that although she's never had a job, or achieved higher education, she has done a good job of raising a family. Try to give back some of the self-esteem she is lost.

Things will get better inshaAllah sis. But along with your efforts you must make duaa. While it is hard for us to change a situation, for Allah nothing is beyond His control. He can change even the hardest of hearts. He can cure even the deadliest diseases. Pray to Allah to cure your mother, mentally, emotionally and physically. Pray salah-ul-hajat and make duaa sincerely and constantly. Reach out to Allah in your sorrow and He will take care of you.

Recite Ya Raheemu 101x after fajr. Blow on hands and wipe over face. InshaAllah everyone will treat you with love, fairness and respect.

For reconciliation - read Ya hakeemu 101x. Blow on water and give it to your mom and dad to drink. If that is not possible, read same and blow on their pillows. If that too isn't possible then imagine them in your mind and blow on them. Remember nothing is beyond the power of Allah. SubhanAllah.

May Allah accept your prayers and bring happiness and tranquility in your household. Ameen.

:w:
 
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Sis, please try to be patient. Some people who are reverts are cast out by their families, and after years and years of patience and by the grace of Allah, they manage to convert their parents. I know that if you have patience you will see the reward for that in this life and the next inshaAllah.

Stay strong, sis!:wub:

:wasalamex
 
Sis, please try to be patient. Some people who are reverts are cast out by their families, and after years and years of patience and by the grace of Allah, they manage to convert their parents. I know that if you have patience you will see the reward for that in this life and the next inshaAllah.

Stay strong, sis!:wub:

:wasalamex
I don't think anonymous is a revert.
If you read her posts again, you will find that she makes references to her father going to mosque and her mother talking about Allah.
I think anonymous lives in a Muslim household.
 
Greetings and peace be with you Anonymous Gender;

In many ways your mum sounds so similar to my wife, and she has known about her PMT for years, she knows that she explodes at times, she has tried all kinds of cures, and nothing seems to have any lasting effect. Today we got into another argument, and she threw some water at me, this is an improvement; years ago she would have thrown the glass as well. We are getting near to the point when we can kind of joke about it at times whilst it is happening.

I have kind of accepted that she has huge anger problems and in a way her anger has to come to some kind of peak before she can calm down. It is no good trying to reason with her while her anger inside seems to be escalating. Some how I try and act like a sponge trying to absorb her anger even though I feel on edge through out the whole experience. We have tried counselling individually and together, but in the end we have to sort out our own problems; no one else can do it for us.

I have tried saying sorry so many times as a way of striving for some kind of peaceful resolution; but that gets thrown back at me and she says so you admit you are wrong if you are sorry. I don’t think I have ever won an argument with her, she always manages to have the last word. Sometimes I am bright enough to recognise a few remarks from her, when she is looking for a fight, but I have never really been able to avoid the following conflict; whatever response I give or even if I try walking away; I always seem to fuel aggravation.

In all the twenty one years we have been married it feels like she has only ever said sorry two or three times, and there were very real tears with this admission each time.

She has two daughters from a previous marriage and she could not stand her youngest daughter, and I found over the years that I could help the youngest daughter more than I could help my wife overcome these problems.

She always seemed much better with the eldest daughter and our son. Both daughters have grown up and left home and now my wife is able to get on much better with them both.

I have probably had so many opportunities to walk away from our marriage but something keeps us together, and despite all our problems I do feel much closer to my wife and have never felt the need to find another woman.

I believe in some cases it only needs one person with a determination to keep a relationship going. Life really is a journey we travel every day; we need to find a purpose to get up and face life day after day after day after day. No matter what animosity and problems face us. Perseverance in love is the key but it really can take years.

It is searching for a way to get out of bed and joyfully face the day without any fear or hate in our hearts. It really does come down to striving for peace in our own hearts despite all the conflict around us. This has been a very slow process for me to try and understand and I am only fifty seven and a half and still feel like a child on a journey.

We get lots of education in maths, science, and history but we get very little training in life about relationships. The only way we seem to learn about how our actions affecting other people is to live with them and experience the tensions of life. Some people do seem to get an easier journey, but I feel that the tougher journey makes you stronger if it is centred on love.

I feel the greater solution is striving to keep loving and praying for your mother despite all the problems. She is probably not able to change herself.

Living with conflict has given me a purpose of doing things for Christian Unity and speaking out for interfaith friendship.

I have gone on a bit so I will end now.

In the spirit of praying for peace

Eric
 
May I ask if it's only you who has to bear the brunt of your mothers anger? Or is it other family members too?
Other family members do too, but to a much much lesser degree. The one who is more bullied after me is probably my Dad. Eric, your story about your wife throwing cups really hit me hard because - my mum does the same thing. One day she threw some cups from the cupboard onto the floor because they were not put neatly enough. In her rage, she basically swept them out of the cupboard in one sweep of her arm, where they cluttered and clanked and rolled around on the floor. Thank goodness they were plastic.

Mothers aren't saintly holy creatures
I know sis. I have now realised that I should stop thinking of this 'perfect' person and stop trying to create a utopia. I think I was imagining a utopia of a realtionship with my mum.

I feel the greater solution is striving to keep loving and praying for your mother despite all the problems. She is probably not able to change herself.
I agree completely.

I tried being nice to her again today and she started being rough again. Oh well. She told me she will not drive me to places I need to go anymore. That's fine. I just have to learn to stop feeling sorry for myself. I just need to get a move on.

I want to thank you all again for your wonderful support. Your objectivity really helped me.
No doubt I will return to this thread when I need consolation or when things start getting tough.

Lots of love and peace to all. May Allah fulfil all your needs and wishes. Ameen.
 
May Allah fulfil all your needs and wishes too...ameen...
 
Other family members do too, but to a much much lesser degree. The one who is more bullied after me is probably my Dad. Eric, your story about your wife throwing cups really hit me hard because - my mum does the same thing. One day she threw some cups from the cupboard onto the floor because they were not put neatly enough. In her rage, she basically swept them out of the cupboard in one sweep of her arm, where they cluttered and clanked and rolled around on the floor. Thank goodness they were plastic.


I know sis. I have now realised that I should stop thinking of this 'perfect' person and stop trying to create a utopia. I think I was imagining a utopia of a realtionship with my mum.


I agree completely.

I tried being nice to her again today and she started being rough again. Oh well. She told me she will not drive me to places I need to go anymore. That's fine. I just have to learn to stop feeling sorry for myself. I just need to get a move on.

I want to thank you all again for your wonderful support. Your objectivity really helped me.
No doubt I will return to this thread when I need consolation or when things start getting tough.

Lots of love and peace to all. May Allah fulfil all your needs and wishes. Ameen.
Hi anonymous

What's puzzling me a little, is that your mum's emotional state seems almost permanent (correct me, if I am getting that wrong)

To my understanding PMT or any other hormonal imbalance is likely to be cyclical (depending on the menstrual cycle). So do your mother's symptoms ease off sometimes, and get worse other times? Can you see a cyclical pattern?
(I will try and find some time to read up on his)

Love,
 
Children come into this world with no choice of their own. Each is a gift and a blessing and joy. They are a warm light that can only give.

Anonymous Gender you are that warmth to your mother. You are there, no matter how hard she is trying to extinguish your light. Your task is to be that light and warmth no matter what you receive in exchange. Do not condemn your mother's behavior, look at it as an opportunity to give more warmth, do not blame yourself for what she does, you can not control another person. Try to fill your role as best as you can and keep in mind that even a smile from her will mean more then false hugs because you know that will be true.

Do not try to change your mother, only she can do that. Just do all you can to not let your love for her fade. She can not take that away from you unless you let her. Do not be false to yourself or her. You have real love for her that love and strength from Allah(swt) are very powerfull tools if you allow yourself to use them.

Do not be afraid to freely give your love to your mother, give it unconditionaly and do not expect anything in return, give it freely not from duty.

Now rest with the knowledge that you are doing all you can. Do not try to change your Mother let Allah(swt) do that. He knows how better than we do,
 

Hi anonymous

What's puzzling me a little, is that your mum's emotional state seems almost permanent (correct me, if I am getting that wrong)

To my understanding PMT or any other hormonal imbalance is likely to be cyclical (depending on the menstrual cycle). So do your mother's symptoms ease off sometimes, and get worse other times? Can you see a cyclical pattern?
(I will try and find some time to read up on his)

Love,
after reading
i have a same feelling. sorry if that hurt.
 
Children come into this world with no choice of their own. Each is a gift and a blessing and joy. They are a warm light that can only give.

Anonymous Gender you are that warmth to your mother. You are there, no matter how hard she is trying to extinguish your light. Your task is to be that light and warmth no matter what you receive in exchange. Do not condemn your mother's behavior, look at it as an opportunity to give more warmth, do not blame yourself for what she does, you can not control another person. Try to fill your role as best as you can and keep in mind that even a smile from her will mean more then false hugs because you know that will be true.

Do not try to change your mother, only she can do that. Just do all you can to not let your love for her fade. She can not take that away from you unless you let her. Do not be false to yourself or her. You have real love for her that love and strength from Allah(swt) are very powerfull tools if you allow yourself to use them.

Do not be afraid to freely give your love to your mother, give it unconditionaly and do not expect anything in return, give it freely not from duty.

Now rest with the knowledge that you are doing all you can. Do not try to change your Mother let Allah(swt) do that. He knows how better than we do,

may Allaah help him doing that
 
You know i can relate to that very , very much
I know this your thread and not mine so i might not get my story out
You know i am suffering excactly that
You know you'rev not alone
 
You are there, no matter how hard she is trying to extinguish your light. Your task is to be that light and warmth no matter what you receive in exchange.
Dearest Brother Woodrow,
Your words above have really made me think twice about the way I give love to my mother. Maybe I do expect a lot in return - too much in fact. I will definitely remember what you have said for a long, long, long time to come. (In fact, I will go and give her a warm hug and hold her hand lovingly right after I finish typing this! :) )

To my understanding PMT or any other hormonal imbalance is likely to be cyclical (depending on the menstrual cycle). So do your mother's symptoms ease off sometimes, and get worse other times? Can you see a cyclical pattern?
Dearest glo,
Yes, I do see a pattern. She is worse under stress (as is anyone) - these stressful times include: Morning (cleaning time!Whoopee!!), cooking, when she comes back from shopping (not when she is shopping mind you, she loves shopping!), and just before the Maghrib prayer (the 4th prayer in the day), and when someone is coming to visit.
I dont see a proper cycle - only at specific times.

You know i can relate to that very , very much
I know this your thread and not mine so i might not get my story out
You know i am suffering excactly that
You know you'rev not alone
Dearest samsam,
I hope the wonderful advice by the people in this thread will help you too! Inshallah.

I will really pray for all of you and may Allah bless you all for helping to return my sanity!!
 

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