You have performed a neat sleight of hand. You have moved from "terror states" (by which you, I am appalled to notice, mean states which are victims of terrorist attacks) to "terrorists". Colombia has its own problems with Marxist guerillas (and the distinction is important because of the nature of the way they fight) and does India. But India also has a problem with Islamist terrorists. By your logic the Mumbai bombings would prove that Indians are terrorists because the attacks took place in India and killed Indians. Yet the question is who carried them out, not where they did it. Greece? Germany? You think that any Greek or German terrorists of non-Muslim origin have killed many people recently?
PROOF: 90% of "Terrorists" are NOT Muslim!
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You have performed a neat sleight of hand. You have moved from "terror states" (by which you, I am appalled to notice, mean states which are victims of terrorist attacks) to "terrorists". Colombia has its own problems with Marxist guerillas (and the distinction is important because of the nature of the way they fight) and does India. But India also has a problem with Islamist terrorists. By your logic the Mumbai bombings would prove that Indians are terrorists because the attacks took place in India and killed Indians. Yet the question is who carried them out, not where they did it. Greece? Germany? You think that any Greek or German terrorists of non-Muslim origin have killed many people recently?
There is also a problem with definitions - you are comparing *pipeline* bombings with the Mumbai train bombings or the London 7-7 attacks? 51 percent of Colombian "terrorist" attacks consisted of pipeline bombings? How many people do you think died in those attacks? Zero? Two?
No one is blaming Muslims for terrorist attacks - although it is clear that the attacks in Europe recently - the Madrid and London bombs - were carried out by people who came from a Muslim background.
ETA and the IRA has both surrendered.
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...Especially when they Produce VIDEO's in which they send a message to the world... :rollseyes :rollseyes :?
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Quite true. Yet, this is something that sets them apart from all other terrorists. They openly admit they have a goal to accomplish and are not ashamed or afraid to let everyone know what the goal is. Although I disagree 100% with their methods, I feel some of their goals are legitimate. The problem isn't what they want, the problem is how they are trying to accomplish it.
With that said, it does make them a highly visible target and open to condemnation by much of the world. It also dipicts them as being a very viable threat and something the public fears. All the publicity over shadows any other terroristic activities in the world, even if
Islamic Terrorists are the minority.
Its all got to do with Media and the message they put accross to the Public. I mean even I as a Muslim do think that Oh No Muslims are behind these attackes even before the culprit is revealed but the fear that the media has created has made me think this way..
Before here in the Uk everytime there was a attack on the public everyone would point the finger at the IRA times have changed since then!
Before here in the Uk everytime there was a attack on the public everyone would point the finger at the IRA times have changed since then!
Ha! Many people don't know this, but the first finger pointed after 9/11 was at the Colombian Cartel (mafia), then it was Yasser Arafat, and after about a week, Al Qaeda was handed the responsibility, and Islamophobia became a household word!
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Close.. the Omagh bombing occurred on August 15 1998! Nobody 'covers' the IRA any more as, as has already been said, they have disarmed and renounced violence. Omagh was not carried out by the Provisional IRA, anyway, but by another Republican group... and no significant attacks by Irish Republicans have occured since.
I don't see any relevance to 1999 figures at all, they can only "prove" what was happening then. A great deal has happened in the meantime, not least 9/11.
Oh, really, Reality says differently
The IRA, lets just say, haven't completely "disarmed" since Omagh.
4 September 1998 CIRA claim gun attack on RUC patrol in Armagh. RUC deny it took place.
23 September 1998 Weapons seized in Dublin.
14 January 1999 Gun attack on Woodbourne RUC Station in West Belfast. Four men later convicted.
4 February 1999 Channel 4 documentary shows CIRA propaganda video.
4 May 1999 Gun attack on Lisnaskea RUC Station in Co Fermanagh.
2 June 1999 Bomb hoax in Armagh City causes chaos.
4 November 1999 CIRA prisoner, Tommy Crossan, is attacked by a Loyalist prisoner in Maghaberry Prison.
27 December 1999 Bomb hoax forces the evacuation of Kempton Park racetrack in England.
23 January 2000 Limerick man arrested transporting a major explosives haul for the Continuity IRA. He was later jailed for eight years by the Special Criminal Court.[6]
6 February 2000 Bomb explosion at a hotel in Irvinestown; there were no injuries.
13 April 2000 Mortar attack on Roslea RUC Station in Co Fermanagh.
19 May 2000 Series of bomb alerts in Belfast City Centre. Nothing found.
1 November 2000 Booby-trap bomb in Castlewellan, County Down, in which an RUC officer lost a leg and two fingers. The CIRA later claimed responsibility.[7]
14 December 2000 One man and a 16 year old boy arrested after bomb found in car in Belfast City Centre.
31 May 2001 Dermot Gannon from Dublin becomes first person to be convicted of membership of the CIRA solely on the word of a Garda chief superintendent. He was jailed for four years.
22 June 2001 Thomas Ryan, 25, from Kilscanlan, Foulksmills, Co Wexford pleaded guilty to possession of 87 sticks of gelignite. He received an 8 year suspended sentence after co-operating with the police.
26 June 2001 Bomb making materials and 60lbs of homemade explosives found on the Monaghan border.
19 July 2001 Gun and grenade attack on Castlewellan RUC Station in Co Down.
17 October 2001 350lb bomb seized in Co Tyrone. Man later convicted.
30 October 2001 5kg bomb explodes on hijacked bus outside Woodbourne RUC Station.
19 December 2001 Bomb damages Custom office in Co Fermanagh.
24 March 2002 Gun attack on Beleek RUC Station in Co Fermanagh.
24 July 2002 Explosion on Fermanagh estate of Unionist peer Lord Brookeborough.
February 2003 Pipe Bomb attack on Woodbourne PSNI Station, Belfast.
18 February 2003 Nail Bomb attack on Antrim Road PSNI Station, Belfast.
5 July 2005 Hoax Bomb warning in Keady, Co Armagh.
9 July 2005 Pipe Bomb attack on Coalisland PSNI Station, Co Tyrone.
12 July 2005 Blast Bombs thrown at PSNI during riots in Ardoyne, Belfast.
13 July 2005 Improvised device discovered in Armagh after emailed bomb warning.
December 2005 A suspected Continuity IRA member was arrested while driving a bomb through Dublin. Gardaí believe the device was intended for use against drugs gangs in the city[8]
19 April 2006 250 lb bomb discovered in Lurgan, Co Armagh. Four men arrested.
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Hmmm....I wonder why within 24 hours they had pictures of the hijackers and Bin Laden on television? Maybe I was part of some mass pyschosis and missed the pictures of Arafat and the reports on the Columbian drug cartels....
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Yemen.........hey...you sure them people are so miskeen!!
Dunno what part them terrorits live in?
But nice post!!
Dunno what part them terrorits live in?
But nice post!!
Anyone who opposes American/Israeli/British interests is a terrorist.
The IRA, Hamas/Hezbollah, the CIA-created group called Al-Qaeda, the American-profit-fueled Colombian Cartel, etc.
In my books, "Terrorism" and "Excuse" are cousins, one supports the other.
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lol ahaa.......well if you put it that way....you're 100% right!
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Oh, please... I said significant incidents (in the context of a bombing on the scale of Omagh). Fatalities out of that lot? Nil.
It is wisest not to say much when the only knowledge you have is from a brief glance at Wiki. CIRA are/were not the same organisation as the Provisional IRA. They have now, to all intents and purposes, disappeared while the Provos after a long hiatus formally renounced violence and their weapons and explosives were verifyably destroyed in 2005.
Sorry, as far as the press coverage goes at least, I remember things much the same way as Keltoi. Bin Laden was the principal suspect from day one, and I recall old news footing of the USS Cole attack and such. There was certainly no delay of a week. But the, of course, the attack was not "staged" either... except by bin Laden. That's the trouble with conspiracy theories, the collect a whole bundle of other myths as they go along.
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As I remember it, on CNN, Wolf Blitzer said the Colombian cartel was the first list of men in suspect. Yasser Arafat was the first man I saw being interviewed about his part in the attacks.
That's what I saw, but then again, I was 11 years old, but then again, I TiVo'd that news alert