I am already on that path, thank you
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This fella is a typical uninterested bloke who just wants to play cat n mouse.
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ive read parts of the old testement and i'm not sure if you pretty much treat prophets as being playboys as something particularly respectful.... and really the contradictions present in the bible just make the mind boggle as 2 how it could be anywhere near a divine book (in its current shape)...
The Bible tells the truth about the human condition, sinfulness. It does not attempt to hide the flaws of its characters, but makes them public as an example of the cost of sin on the individual and on society. It does not glamorize sin in any way.
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and anyway.. the bible is just a collection of chaptes written by humans, there's chapter paul, mark, luke... but where's Allah's chapter
Since Muhammed was supposidly unlettered, the Quran was written by someone other than the person claiming to have received the revelation.
Let's be honest here, Would you trust your kids to live with such prophets if they where as the bible describes??
The fact is, those accounts are not true and fabricated, and anyway, how could christians be fooled into believing what the enemies of hteir own prophet have to say about other messengers and prophets, the Jews label jesus as a b*astard and his mother a wh*re and yet they're duped into listening to what htey have to say about the messengers? That's what the old testement pretty much is.
If the prophts where as you described, then they aren't righteous people at all, and what makes them so special, to commit things like incest and adultery and many other gruesome crimes!
The quran presents the truth about the prophets (how is it the truth? based on statistical evidence and deduction), and NO other religion has respect for the prophets as much as we do, including Jesus PBUH and his blessed mother, read his story in chapter of Mary for example.
our God doesn't write books...
Sometimes it seems this forum should be renamed from"comparative religion" into "lets prove that christianity is wrong". What's the aim of searching web for article that "prove" how silly christianity is, and copy-pasting them here? Do you understand us better, know more about different faith?
We do the pasting, and then we both do the debating
To be quite frank, it's simple, the fact that your bible was writtenby humans, the fact that the bible is more about what paul thinks than it is about what was revealed to jesus, is the very reasonw hy Michael heart for example ranked paul higher than jesus in his "100 men" book.
Or maybe it helps you to understand why there are people who stick to christianity and don't convert to islam? For you answer is simple, isn't it? We are bunch of idiots who don't know history, don't read bible and can't count to 3.
There's alot of people who do revert to Islam, others don't, but it's for a whole host of reasons, parents, laziness, not sincere in seraching for the truth
point is, there seems to be something fundamentally different, you seem to think that the messengers come with a message they don't follow themselves, and, god can contradict himself.
we're a bit more logical than that, the messengers are the best of creation because of the very fact they adhered to their message even though very few people followed them, and, by definition, "god" is not god if he's nto perfect. How could the god who created this complicated and advanced universe be a true god if he's comitting mistakes and contradictions in his revelations to mankind.
To compare you have to understand (or at least try to..). To understand others you have to try to see world through their lances.
you mean 'lenses'? (sorry srsly not trying 2b pedantic)..
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and anyway.. the bible is just a collection of chaptes written by humans, there's chapter paul, mark, luke... but where's Allah's chapter
Since Muhammed was supposidly unlettered, the Quran was written by someone other than the person claiming to have received the revelation.
The quran was revealed to Muhammad directly through gabriel who who memorised it, and his scribe (Ali, Zayd ibn thabit and a few others), would write it down after the revelation session was completed.
The question is, if you really believe that, prove it. And that's what it is, a miracle. Every prophet came with a miracle, the prophets biggest miracle was the quran.
This verse would be a pretty untrustworthy test of the Quran's divine origin for several reasons. There is no criteria provided by which the produced work can be evaluated, nor is there any qualifications given to the witnesses. I have read the entire Bible and much of the Quran. I find the Bible to be a superior piece of work, and I have many witnesses who agree. Therefore I would have to say the Bible has met the challenge of this verse and has won the challenge.
What you're reading is a translation of the quran, not the quran itself. And very few people will try to hide teh fact that the translation is AWFUL. Hence why we're commanded to learn quran in the arabic form.
The challenge is to bring about a single chapter like it in terms of linguistic style, and with some sort of beneficial meaning.
The people of quraysh who where the best in arabic pretty much in history, where dumbfounded because this style of arabic was completely knew to them, it was neither poetry nor prose, something unique which they where unable to match.
The challenge is open till the day of judgement.
finally, no1's replied to what i said in that post, it's teh crux of the matter, because baed on these miracles, we can mathematically prove that what's narrated about the propehts is the truth in the quran. Ofcourse you can't prove it historically becasue history was barely written, but its only when prophecies and things that are beyond human capabilties are done, only then we knwo that it could not have been Muhammad PBUh who wrote up the quran, and it must have been from Allah.
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