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AsalamuALyakum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Wamaghfiratuh ALLLLLL :D

Basically yeah...,

Does anyone know who Abu Jahm is?

Answer if possible :)

Oki tc :-[
 
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Wa'alaikum Salaam waRahmatullaahi waBarakaatuh

Well...did you Google the name? I ain't gonna copy + paste any random thing off Google...but after I typed that name up...all that came up was stuff like "he was a wife beater" or something.

BUT...ALLAAHU A'LAM
 
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jzcasejz said:
Wa'alaikum Salaam waRahmatullaahi waBarakaatuh

Well...did you Google the name? I ain't gonna copy + paste any random thing off Google...but after I typed that name up...all that came up was stuff like "he was a wife beater" or something.

BUT...ALLAAHU A'LAM
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The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to Faatimah bint Qays, when she consulted him about whether she should marry Mu’aawiyah or Abu’l-Jahm: “As for Mu’aawiyah, he is a poor man who has no money, and as for Abu’l-Jahm his stick is always over his shoulder [this may mean either that he travels a lot, or that he habitually beats his wives].”

From Zaad al-Ma’aad, 5/168


http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=43496&ln=eng&txt=jahm



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In another hadith:

Al-Bukhaari (373) and Muslim (556) narrated from ‘Aa’ishah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) prayed in a black cloak that had markings, and he looked at its markings. When he finished praying, he said: “Take this cloak to Abu Jahm ibn Hudhayfah, and bring me his plain garment, for they distracted me just now when I was praying.”. Hishaam ibn ‘Urwah narrated from his father, from ‘Aa’ishah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I was looking at its markings whilst I was praying and I was afraid that they would distract me.”

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=90097&ln=eng&txt=jahm[/SIZE]
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Fi_Sabilillah said:



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The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to Faatimah bint Qays, when she consulted him about whether she should marry Mu’aawiyah or Abu’l-Jahm: “As for Mu’aawiyah, he is a poor man who has no money, and as for Abu’l-Jahm his stick is always over his shoulder [this may mean either that he travels a lot, or that he habitually beats his wives].” From Zaad al-Ma’aad, 5/168

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=43496&ln=eng&txt=jahm

In another hadith:

Al-Bukhaari (373) and Muslim (556) narrated from ‘Aa’ishah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) prayed in a black cloak that had markings, and he looked at its markings. When he finished praying, he said: “Take this cloak to Abu Jahm ibn Hudhayfah, and bring me his plain garment, for they distracted me just now when I was praying.”. Hishaam ibn ‘Urwah narrated from his father, from ‘Aa’ishah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I was looking at its markings whilst I was praying and I was afraid that they would distract me.”

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=90097&ln=eng&txt=jahm
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AsaalmuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Wa Maghfiratuh,

both hadiths look neutral, was he a bad man? or nah?

JazakumAllah khair @ Akhi 1, ukhti and akhi 2 :D
 
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:wasalamex


That's all i could find, when bro jzcasejz heard that he was a 'wife-beater' - then i think that it's not related to that at all, the hadith of him carrying a stick can simply be interpreted as 1) being a traveller alot of the time or 2) that he uses that stick to beat people alot.

Other than that, i'm not really sure. Unless you mean the Jahmiyya sect? Since they have a similar name.. kinda? Allaah knows best.



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Fi_Sabilillah said:
:wasalamex


That's all i could find, when bro jzcasejz heard that he was a 'wife-beater' - then i think that it's not related to that at all, the hadith of him carrying a stick can simply be interpreted as 1) being a traveller alot of the time or 2) that he uses that stick to beat people alot.

Other than that, i'm not really sure. Unless you mean the Jahmiyya sect? Since they have a similar name.. kinda? Allaah knows best.

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WalaykumSalaam Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Wa Maghfiratuh,

okay then,

i never actually heard of a Jahmiyya Sect no offence..

AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Wa Maghfiratuh
 
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jahmiyyah sect?

is this referring to the followers of imam ash'ari and maturidi?

plz correct me if im wrong? :?
 
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Sorry, i don't know about this guy.

I know about Abu Jahl though.
 
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moabubaker said:
Sorry, i don't know about this guy.

I know about Abu Jahl though.
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That's cool :D,

just ..this name kept propping up in hadiths that i recently read.

AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullai Wabarakatuh Wa Maghfiratuh.
 
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IbnAbdulHakim said:
jahmiyyah sect?

is this referring to the followers of imam ash'ari and maturidi?

plz correct me if im wrong? :?
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The Jahmiyyah sect spread from a man called [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jahm ibn Safwan. In regard to Qadr [destiny] - they say that we're under compulsion, and that we don't do anything except that we are forced to do it since it is our destiny.

Whereas the Ahlus Sunnah know that we also have a freedom of choice in our actions.

The Jahmiyyah also reject Allaah's Attributes, and they have other faults in their beliefs too that hellfire isn't forever etc. And Allaah knows best.


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Is hellfire forever for everyone den? :o|
 
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Fi_Sabilillah said:
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The Jahmiyyah sect spread from a man called [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jahm ibn Safwan. In regard to Qadr [destiny] - they say that we're under compulsion, and that we don't do anything except that we are forced to do it since it is our destiny.

Whereas the Ahlus Sunnah know that we also have a freedom of choice in our actions.

The Jahmiyyah also reject Allaah's Attributes, and they have other faults in their beliefs too that hellfire isn't forever etc. And Allaah knows best.


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huh, :-[

sorry! I'm now extremely confused, bhai i dun wan be part of Jahmiyyah...

:D AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Wa Maghfiratuh - morning 'jus woke up' :statisfie
 
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Umma Wasat said:
huh, :-[

sorry! I'm now extremely confused, bhai i dun wan be part of Jahmiyyah...

:D AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Wa Maghfiratuh - morning 'jus woke up' :statisfie
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lol the jahmiyyah believe hellfire will end at some point but Allahs said that its for eternity for the disbelievers.

hellfire wont end in the same way heaven wont end.

does it make sense now boyn? :)
 
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IbnAbdulHakim said:
lol the jahmiyyah believe hellfire will end at some point but Allahs said that its for eternity for the disbelievers.

hellfire wont end in the same way heaven wont end.

does it make sense now boyn? :)
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definately not,

so hell isn't eternity heaven is eternity cept for disbelievers that are in hell will go to hell for life?

Man that sucks :rollseyes
 
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Umma Wasat said:
oh soz i think i dint understand did u mean nothing is for eternity? as in heaven and hell will soon die out?
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no lol

i meant that hell is for eternity and so is heaven but just for different people.



{end of confusion}
 

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