Questionnaire for the Christians

[mansio]

The "irrefutable proofs" of Jesus and the prophets have probably existed only as words in books and not as facts in reality.

That explains why people did not believe in them.

 

[azim]

Muhammad

I was not talking about the people that believed in Jesus or the prophets, but why other people did not believe in them.

You state in the same sentence that you believe in Jesus' miracles but that you do not believe in Jesus as Christians understand it. That does not give you a position to give lessons on believing.

As Muslims we believe in the miracles of Jesus because we believe in the miracle of the Quran (I have seen the points you've made on another thread about the Quran and insha'Allah, we will discuss the Quran there). Since the Quran can be prooved (again, will prove on the other thread) we believe in the miracles of Jesus.

However, can I ask what your beliefs are? Since you can make such judgemental comments about other peoples beliefs without the spirit of dicussion or understanding in mind, I think it is fair to know what you believe.

 

[sumay28]

Question

If God so loved us to give us his only begotten son... why did he do it against his will? It didn't seem like Jesus had "get cruxified..." in his agenda book...

 

[Eric H]

Re: Question

Greetings and peace sumay;

God so loved us to give us his only begotten son... why did he do it against his will?

This might not sound logical to you but I sense you are thinking more in human terms than the divine will of God.

Would God have a plan for the creation of the universe before creation began?

If God had a plan which involved the life and death of his son as a human, would he ask Jesus if he was willing to go through with it before creation began?

If Jesus accepted the will of his Father before creation began, then it would be the choice of Jesus to go ahead with creation according to his Fathers plan.

This makes more sense than for God to create the universe, see the mess that mankind are making of it; and then say to his son this is what you will have to do to put things right.

In the spirit of seeking interfaith relations.

Eric

 

[afriend]

go to this link and all will be answered
http://www.ahya.org/amm/modules.php...download2&cid=2&min=25&orderby=titleA&show=25

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace mansio,

When you do not believe in the resurrection of Jesus, which is supposed to be one of those, if not the main, "irrefutable proofs of Jesus and the prophets", you are just an unbeliever as any other unbeliever

I honestly do not know how faith works, but I look at my own faith as a gift from God; and when I talk to people of other faiths I also sense that their faith is a gift from the same God.

I cannot understand why God should choose to give us faith in so many apparently conflicting ways.

Maybe there is some greater divine purpose of God that goes beyond trying to convert everyone to the same faith.

In the spirit of seeking greater interfaith relations

Eric

 

[afriend]

May Allah bless you, You have said something which should be heard by everyone on this forum..........May Allah give you a good Reward, Hudaa, guidance...........

Ameen

 

[mansio]

Eric

Faith is sometimes something very difficult to understand for unbelievers and believers.
But we have some clues as to how it can work. For example faith, in most cases, does not depend on the believer but on his parents and the place where he was born.
When you say that you do not understand why God should choose to give us faith in so many apparently conflicting ways, you omit an other possibility, that God gives faith to some and Satan leads the others astray.

 

[bluff master]

Did coca-cola created father chistmas?

 

[sumay28]

Re: Question

Greetings and peace sumay;


This might not sound logical to you but I sense you are thinking more in human terms than the divine will of God.

Would God have a plan for the creation of the universe before creation began?

If God had a plan which involved the life and death of his son as a human, would he ask Jesus if he was willing to go through with it before creation began?

If Jesus accepted the will of his Father before creation began, then it would be the choice of Jesus to go ahead with creation according to his Fathers plan.

This makes more sense than for God to create the universe, see the mess that mankind are making of it; and then say to his son this is what you will have to do to put things right.

In the spirit of seeking interfaith relations.

Eric

Thank you for your answer to my question, but still I find that rather confusing. Why is Jesus worshiped? I mean, how did he end up becoming God?