Jesus was a teacher, and he did not want his people to imitate him?
Interesting conclusion you have. Did you get this from the passages of the bible where Jesus clearly, UNAMBGIOUSLY say "You need not do what I do, You need not act how I act, you need not believe what I believe"?
More deviation from jesus real teachings? you betcha!
Yes, that is exactly where I found my conclusion. You can read it too; you'll find that quote on the page opposite where Jesus said, "All you who are followers of mine, imitate everything I do exactly!"
I agree, You are right that Jesus is sent for the lost sheep of israel, and not for the mankind.
You are not agreeing to something I said. And you are mis-representing Jesus as well. Jesus does NOT say that he was sent FOR the lost sheep of Israel, but TO them. Prepositions are important here. As far as whom he came for:
For the Son of man came to save that which was lost. (Matthew 18:11)
There appears no limitation on this to just the lost of Israel.
Jesus parables of the lost sheep, lost coin, and lost son recorded in Luke 15 again are universal in their application. God is actively seeking those who are lost, even sometimes to the exclusion of watching over those who are already in the fold (i.e. perhaps a reference to the nation of Israel). Jesus' own response to the passage you reference "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel." (Matthew 15:24) was to recognize the woman's faith and grant her request, but notice she was NOT a member of the nation of Israel, but a Canaanite woman.
So, are we to do as Jesus did? If so, then that would tell me that we are to share his grace with more than just the nation of Israel. With whom then? A hint comes again from reading more scripture than just Matthew 15:24. We've examine Luke 19:10 in other threads, let's try John 3:17 in this one: "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him." Jesus came to the lost sheep of Israel, but in doing so he came to save the world, not just one small part of it. And so, he sends us who are his followers out to that same world: "But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth" (Acts 1:8). The Holy Spirit has come, and we who are filled with his power are now going where we have been sent, to the ends of the earth as witnesses for Jesus.
it is sunnah that we fasted on that day [Passover].
Interesting. I did not know that. I've had Muslims who lived in my house and they never practiced that. So, I learned something new today.
uh, jesus never drank wine.
Another difference between the Qur'an and the Bible then, for whatever the Muslim texts say in this regard the Bible clearly shows that Jesus did drink wine:
For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, 'He has a demon.' The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners." ' (Luke 7:33-34)
There is also a parallel passage in Matthew the promotes the same conclusion. And though Jesus not specifically mentioned as drinking wine, my conclusion is that he probably did and surely he must not have had anything against it based on his willingness to perform the miracle of turning water into wine (see John 2).
We are not prophets. All prophets did that anyway. not exclsuive to Jesus, because all prophets were sent to save their people, with the exception of the last prophet, Muhammad SAW who was sent as blessings for the mankind.
Are you drawing a distinction not only between who the earlier prophets were sent to vis-a-vis to whom Muhammad (pbuh) was sent, but also between what there missions were: "to save their people" vs. "as blessings for the mankind"? Or do you mean that their missions where the same (though their target audiences were different) and are just using different ways to express the same idea? I ask merely for edification.
As to that portion which you have excluded yourself from by saying, "we are not prophets", what you said in your previous post was:
Name me ONLY 1 Christian, ANYBODY knows, which does ALL those things that JESUS (as) used to do and PRESCRIBE on us to do as well... only ONE !!! I know I do them all, and all true Muslims do!
I then tested whether that was indeed a true statement. Do you know and do all "Jesus used to do and prescribed on us to do as well"? Saying "we are not prophets" does not excuse anyone from doing something that Jesus taught for all to do, and among those teachigns that I listed was to "turn the other cheek". That fact that we are not prophets is irrelevant to the measure of one's obedience.
I asked: "Really Muslims do ALL the things that Jesus used to do?" and you responded:
But in point of fact you did:
I know I do them all, and all true Muslims do!
in the very basic he was like a muslim:
belief in one Absolute Undivided God, the way he prayed and worshiped, the way he fasted and give alms.
Yes. With that I would agree. He was LIKE a Muslim. Jews are very much like Muslims. And Jesus was a Jew.
It is NOT muslims who followed Jesus, it IS CHRISTIANS, and yet NO CHRISTIANS are like him in the very basic.
The BIG THUNDERING FACT still:
NO christian today are believing and acting the same ways Jesus did.
This despite the ubiquitous ridiculous wristbands, bumper stickers, buckles etc that say: WWJD - What Would Jesus Do?
You are correct that NO Christian today acts the same way Jesus did. This despite the not so ridiculous WWJD slogans which abound. Why not? For multiple reasons. Some I've given above. Despite that you refuse to accept them, that doesn't lessen their validity. Another reason is that the slogan WWJD is not asking "What Was Jesus Did?", but "What Would Jesus Do?". if he were here in my shoes today. The answer to that question is not always going to be that Jesus would do the same thing today as what he did at some point in the past. And then others reasons for our not living up to the WWJD slogan speak of our imperfectness in doing what we know we should but don't do. Christians continue to be imperfect followers. Christian continue to still be in rebellion against God's will. This is not something we should condone. We still sin and that sin needs to be rooted out.
I doubt if you would even disagree with those last couple of statements. Where we disagree is in what practices of Jesus are expected of people today. The Muslim no longer drinks wine, though Jesus did. The (gentile) Christian may eat pork, though Jesus did not. We have both received revelation subsequent to the Torah which Jesus followed, and that subsequent revelation has changed the set of practices which we feel compelled to keep so that they are different from that which Jesus honored.
