Racist spits at Muslim on train

Multiculturalism doesn't work. Islam and Christianity doesn't mix. Christians are tolerant of other religions, too tolerant at times. There will be a few that will actually lose it and this is an example of that.


Multiculturalism works fine so long as the cultures being mixed are non-aggressive towards one another. The die hards of monotheistic religions, that claim their way to be the only way, tend to fail in this regard. The rest of us get along with each other fine.
 
Multiculturalism works fine so long as the cultures being mixed are non-aggressive towards one another. The die hards of monotheistic religions, that claim their way to be the only way, tend to fail in this regard. The rest of us get along with each other fine.

Change Die Hards to misusers and I will agree with you. I consider myself to be very much a "Die Hard" monotheistic Muslim. But, I would never do anything to deliberatly deny another person the right to believe or disbelieve as they choose. I am also anti-aggression except in the case of protection of Islam, Family, Innocent People, Country, Friends, and Self, in those orders of priority.
 
Set this particular case aside for the moment, as I think we all agree that what occurred with this poor woman was wrong.

The subject of multiculturalism was brought up , and I think that is obviously a very important part of this. I think there is a perception, both real and otherwise, that Muslims do not want to integrate into Western society. This creates a "them and us" mindset. This situation isn't special in relation to Muslims, as history has shown us this problem over and over again. There has to be a way to introduce Europeans and Americans to the reality of the "normal" Muslim, the Muslims who are just as religious as the "extremist", but also true followers of Islam. Neighbors like any other, that will call the cops when robbers break into your house when you're gone. Okay, that was random, but hopefully you know what I'm trying to say. There is a perception out there that Muslims do not want to be British, American, French, etc, as in they will live, work, and accept the benefits of Western society, but will also pray for its downfall. Some of this is caused by media sensationalism and some of it by statements made by radicals. Either way, the perception is real. Somebody, hopefully our government leaders, needs to make a big effort to introduce the reality of our Muslim neighbors and not the Muslims we see on TV blowing up people and themselves. Anyway, just my long-winded two cents.
 
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Islam and Christianity doesn't mix.


Well of course two religions won't mix but the people that follow these religions can surely get along. Allah orders us to be tolerant of other people even though we may not agree with all of their views. There will always be that small population of people in every group that will mess it up for everyone else.


Honestly, I don't think that the punishment was enough for what happened. Filing a huge lawsuit for being degraded and publicly humiliated and verbally abused is more along the lines of what the punishment should have been. But I guess that didn't happen. I just hope that these men learn how to respect others, whether they like them or not, regardless of religion and clothing.
 
What a horrendous incident! Given the state of the British legal system, i wouldn't be surprised if the racist is out in a couple of months.
 
What a horrendous incident! Given the state of the British legal system, i wouldn't be surprised if the racist is out in a couple of months.

To be honest, I'm actually surprised they will see any prison time at all. These sorts of incidents happen all the time, without the element of racism or religious intolerance. I would say that the severity of their punishment is due to the fact that it was against a Muslim woman. If a drunken man verbally assaults a white Christian woman he would most likely not get much punishment at all, as long as the attack was verbal and not physical.
 
To be honest, I'm actually surprised they will see any prison time at all. These sorts of incidents happen all the time, without the element of racism or religious intolerance. I would say that the severity of their punishment is due to the fact that it was against a Muslim woman. If a drunken man verbally assaults a white Christian woman he would most likely not get much punishment at all, as long as the attack was verbal and not physical.

I suspect that's true, also.
 
Well, under British law, a clever lawyer could argue that spitting is battery. In any case, it's arguable on the facts given that this was at least an assault under British law - that is, it caused the victim to fear the use of violence.

It's done and dusted now anyway.
 
I'm getting some Error Message so I can't read thru the whole thread :(

But it's terrible!! Just goes to show how liquor really brings out the worst in people. They were drunk weren't they?

I went to the bank two days ago with my mom and my dad. My dad wears the Thoub and Kufi and Me and my Mom wear Hijaab and Niqaab. Well anyway the security guard let my dad thru but when I and my mom tried to walk in he barred the door and pulled in closed in our face! When my dad turned around and saw what happened he came back and pushed the door open for us again, at which the security guard turned on him and was like " Whats the matter big boy? Tryna disrespect me? Whats your problem huh? You think I'm gonna let these people in? How I dont know if they're gonna blow up the place!?"
It was sooooo embarrassing :offended: and this Guy kept up this big fuss and everyone in the bank was turning around and watching us whilst he kept going on about how "These are the kind of people who you want to watch out for" and " Think they own the whole place " and other random stupid remarks.

*sigh*....
 
ur dad should of knocked the s*** out that security guard.. 3 against 1 big fat security guard....

Did you complain to the bank manager?
 
ur dad should of knocked the s*** out that security guard.. 3 against 1 big fat security guard....
And that well thought-out plan wouldn't possibly reinforce negative stereotypes about 'violent Muslims', would it?

Did you complain to the bank manager?
Now you're speaking my language.
 
Assalamo Aleikom,

It happend many times to me. But i have Sabr. The man lives in my neighbourhood. He never managed to spit actually on me, he spits next to me.

But i have Sabr. The reason is becauze of my gimaar!

But Alhamdolilah, if you see what people did to our Prophet (Peace and Blessings upon him) than you will get MAD!

Wassalam
 
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^Subhanallah so true!! No one is throwing camel guts on us, what are we complaining about?!
 
^Of course we should always defend ourselves and show no tolerance to this kind of idiotic behaviour, but at the same time we should realise that most of the trouble we get is so small compared to what the prophet went through, and that he was patient and so we should be too, inshaallah.
 

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