Random q!

[Soulja Girl]

What's more respectful? "Tum" or "Aap" and wah d difference?? :? [If there iz a difference :X]

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[IbnAbdulHakim]

theres certain people (veeery elderly/scholarly people) who i address with nothing but Aap.

Then theres people who sometimes i say aap and sometimes tum (elders/relatives/in laws etc)

and i NEVER EVER use TU

 

[Insaanah]

Aap is very respectful. Used for eleders/equals, but good to use it for everyone.

Tum - can be used if talking to those younger than you i.e. kids, but if you want to teach them good manners it might be better to say aap, so that they'll use that word too.

Tu - equivalent of tum in Punjabi. Used for a kid like tum, but tu is singular.

 

[Soulja Girl]

Okay, jazakumullah khair for clearin that! =] Aap it is then!

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[Snowflake]

Aap is respectful but also formal. It is reserved for elders and strangers.

Tum is not disrespecful unless used to elders and strangers. It is merely informal and many people who know each other well, prefer to be addressed with 'tum' as it suggests friendliness/informality. Some husbands ask their wives to say tum not app.

 

[Snowflake]

'Aap' shows respect 'Tum' doesn't show much. And 'TU' shows none

Tu is not disrespectful. It depends who you are addressing. Tu is punjabi equivalent of tum (urdu). Friends always say 'tu' in punjabi.

 

[Raaina]

*Goes to find her urdu phase book*

 

[Allaah Knows]

Also, "tu" can be used to indicate closeness and Allaah [ta`aalaa] Knows best.

 

[Soulja Girl]

^That's anova fing I dun get, why "tu" iz used for Allah SWT? It sounds very disrespectful & he be the Lord of the Worlds. :><:

Tum is not disrespecful unless used to elders and strangers. It is merely informal and many people who know each other well, prefer to be addressed with 'tum' as it suggests friendliness/informality. Some husbands ask their wives to say tum not app.

^Oh. :><:

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[Allaah Knows]

wa `alaykum salaam wrwb

I had this dilemma once as i would make du'aa in urdu and when i was younger I would use "aap" when referring to Allaah subhanahu wa ta`aalaa and then i switched to "tu" after hearing elders say Allaah [ta`aalaa] is One and it isnt befitting to say Aap. From what I understand, "tu" is ok as it is used to indicate closeness with your Rabb and aap is ok as Allaah subhanahu wa ta`aalaa refers to Himself many times in al Quraan as "us". wAllaahu a'lam, just my understanding

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

^That's anova fing I dun get, why "tu" iz used for Allah SWT? It sounds very disrespectful & he be the Lord of the Worlds. :><:




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YES EXACTLY

someone PLEASE ADRESS THIS !


i mean asked this question to a whole gathering of elders wen i was about 7

but they all just laughed and said "aww how cute"

I WAS SERIOUS


i still dont get it


weneva i hear it i boil up inside coz it sounds so disrespectful....

 

[Insaanah]

I use tu when talking to Allah. Aap and tum can be used for more than one person. Tu is used for only one, and thus:

a) denotes His oneness
b) you talk to Him like that as He is close to you. Denotes closeness.

Many Urdu poets refer to Allah, when addressing Him as tu, eg tu hee ne ham ko banaayaa (it was You that created us).

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

I use tu when talking to Allah. Aap and tum can be used for more than one person. Tu is used for only one, and thus:

a) denotes His oneness
b) you talk to Him like that as He is close to you. Denotes closeness.

Many Urdu poets refer to Allah, when addressing Him as tu, eg tu hee ne ham ko banaayaa (it was You that created us).

i understand now


may ALlah reward you abundantly sister


Assalamu Alaikum

 

[Güven]

Aap means "monkey" in dutch. So if you ever come to the Netherlands don't ever use "Aap". :exhausted

 

[Snowflake]

To punjabi speakers when 'Tu' is used for Allah it not disrespectful and signifies the Oneness of Allah.

It is like recognising that when 'We' is used in the Quran it's not to be taken as a plural. Hmm.. it's hard to explain nless you're familiar with the native tongue.


I think it's also allowed and not considered disrespectful due to the fact that there is only one word for 'you' in arabic and so the translation can be tu/aap.

I feel better using tussi (punj.) which is the equivalent of the urdu 'aap'.

 

[Snowflake]

JazakiAllah sis Insaan

 

[Soulja Girl]

I had this dilemma once as i would make du'aa in urdu and when i was younger I would use "aap" when referring to Allaah subhanahu wa ta`aalaa and then i switched to "tu" after hearing elders say Allaah [ta`aalaa] is One and it isnt befitting to say Aap. From what I understand, "tu" is ok as it is used to indicate closeness with your Rabb and aap is ok as Allaah subhanahu wa ta`aalaa refers to Himself many times in al Quraan as "us". wAllaahu a'lam, just my understanding

^Ya, I fink we should use the royal we for Allah in Urdu too! Much more respectful..I guess wah sis Insane Insaan said does make more sense though. Wallahu A'lam

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[AlHoda]

Aap means "monkey" in dutch. So if you ever come to the Netherlands don't ever use "Aap". :exhausted

Yes, you might get in trouble. ;D
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[CosmicPathos]

I use "Tu" with very close friends.

For Allah (swt), I use "Tu" as well. Tu is not a disrespectful word. It, actually, denotes closeness, informality, and love. So by using "Tu" for Allah, a "Punjabi" tries to establish a closer link with Allah.

Clarification: Urdu speakers also use "Tu" for Allah (swt). Its not just them Punjabis. For example, a Urdu speaker will say when entering a mosque, "Ya Allah, mein teray darbaar mein daakhil ho raha hon." Tera is very informal of your. It could be replaced by "aap" but I have not seen any Urdu speaker do that. Exception might exist for Muslims from Luckhnow and Delhi who speak very formal Urdu.

 

[CosmicPathos]

To punjabi speakers when 'Tu' is used for Allah it not disrespectful and signifies the Oneness of Allah.

It is like recognising that when 'We' is used in the Quran it's not to be taken as a plural. Hmm.. it's hard to explain nless you're familiar with the native tongue.


I think it's also allowed and not considered disrespectful due to the fact that there is only one word for 'you' in arabic and so the translation can be tu/aap.

I feel better using tussi (punj.) which is the equivalent of the urdu 'aap'.

Urdu speakers also use "Tu." I am more of a Urdu speaker, even though I am Punjabi, but I still use "Tu" for Allah (swt). "Aap" shows far distance from Allah (swt), at least to my mind.