I find this incredibly intriguing, you say that we started it, we fix, when actually we didnt start it. We provided a means of peace and democracy for these people, we did not force the suicide bombing or any of the other violence over there. That is the work of Muslims not the "west" or anyone else, just muslims. I am not saying all Muslims are involved I am saying there is no other group of people involved, we accomplished our main objectives and if these people wanted peace with each other our troops could have been gone a very long time ago and therefore have no real reason to be there except to provide security for Iraqis, however as said over and over on this board many dont even want us there, and as far as I am concerned it is their country and if they dont want our help then let them sort it out themselves. (Maybe Iraq should take a vote on who wants us there and who doesnt)
I also find the fact that you said "As for injustices anywhere around the world on such a large scale, then it is everyone's responsibility to help if they are able to. " very interesting. This is exactly what the US's problem is, we try to help other nations in trouble, and when we do, particularly in Muslim countries, we run into things like OBL and all of these other groups that have spawned since. It seems that Muslims dont want our help, so why should we help the Chechens or the Iraqis for that matter? In this respect Muslims are isolating themselves from the rest of the world and making themselves more vulnerable to attacks and political wars, it isnt the world isolating Islam, it is in fact the opposite. Imagine if the US went into Chechnya as a peace keeping force, I guarantee you it wouldnt be one day before a message was out for the evil Kuffar to leave the country or be attacked. Of course this would be taken as "Oh it is an extremist group" and we will stay and try to help the Chechens live in peace and the next thing you know we would have another Iraq on our hands, one side wanting us to provide security and the other hating us for messing up their political agenda, and so here we go again.
After we get out of Iraq, I personally hope we never hope a third world or Muslim country ever again. Our country has flourished and made its way to the top faster than any nation in history, we have no need for anything in the middle east, you say oil I say Venezuela, Canada and Mexico, you say conquest I say for what? If we put all of the money we put in our foreign affairs back into our own economy, the US would be back to what it was at the beginning of this century and then some. The people seem beyond ingrateful for what we try to do and seem only to want violence. More Muslims are killed by Muslims each day than any other people on earth, do you not see the problem with this? It isnt the west exterminating Islam, it is Muslims exterminating Islam.
