Recent Aleppo Updates

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

True, Dua is the super power we need. To rely on Allah, NO one else, to pray, and trust Allah, to be aware of Allah. To have Imaan, is a super power in and of itself. a Muslim has a super power, to ask Allah for help, to communicate with Allah.

We should all make dua to Allah, alone. Cause only Allah can answer our duas. Secondly, I think being an idealist + a realist, a combination of the two.

To only say the good, and cover the bad news, is a sign of injustice and oppression, right?

Correct me if I am wrong, but, there is no ideal world in this Dunyah. There are bad people, good people, etc. To think of all people as good, and to stretch out one's hand towards the oppressor, while they cut your artery, is kind of dumb, right?

What I am saying is, be merciful, however, if being merciful means shading and ignoring the suffering of the oppressed and smilling and being good to the oppressors, then that is just being ignorant. And in fact, one is not merciful....

I.e. if being "merciful" conflicts with Justice, is that really Mercy then?

I am all for thinking good of people, however, is it really mercy to stretch out your hands to the oppressors, while they burn your house. It is like trying to be kind to a murderer in your house.

So could it be that, in certain situations, being kind to oppressors, is in fact, a form of oppression in and of itself?

I think like this - to be merciful to the oppressors that kill your people - is dumb and pathetic. To do so, is a kind of oppression towards the oppressed themselves. Right?

In short, being kind to oppressors, is Injustice and oppression towards the oppressed. Justice would be to end their oppression by killing them, if they do not stop. which in Assad's cause, I don't see happening.

Showing the good and never the bad, is oppression, too.

Allahu alam.

Absolutely true.

 

[OmAbdullah]

it is very naive to expect anyone to change circumstances beyond their control
to challenge someone to do that is even worse,no one has anything to prove to you or i

as muslims we are taught the first goal is self reformation
then dawah to muslims and non muslims..yes i will use the term non muslim as our ulema in the u.k also do.

positive changes are done by positive communication and positive actions locally
not one of us has the power to change world events.
why do young angry muslims constantly fail to appreciate this simple fact.

You want that facts and truth should not be declared. But truth is truth no matter how much it is bitter.


Pesonal reformation and da'wa????????


There are very big da'wa groups in the present world. They have been working for ages but their da'wa doesn't cross personal reforms like some say that you should eat with three fingers and others say that you should eat with all of the five fingers. If we go and say something important they will stop us like you.


I remind: The Prophet Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam was an example for us. Did he teach us only adaab of eating and entering and exiting bathroom, (enter bathroom with left foot and exit with the right foot)? Is that all Islam? No! No! Not at all!


The Prophet Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam, in only 23 years, changed the whole Arabia from idolatry to the worship and obedience of Allah Azza wa Jall. He acted according to the circumstances. So He did what was needed. He trusted Allah and acted bravely. He didn't teach us cowardice. In short period of 23 years, He gave the message of Islam in Makkah then migrated to Madinah as it was essential. Then He made a small Islamic State and started implementing the Laws and Commands of Allah as they were sent down. If some idolaters /kaafirs tried to attack them, He and His followers responded bravely and taught them a good lesson. If an expedition was needed He went on the expedition like that of Tabok. He didn't let an innocent Muslim be killed. In Makkah (before hijrah) he had to be patient. But in Madinah He was allowed to fight and respond, so He did. At the occasion of Hudebiah, they were going for umrah and thus they had the animals of sacrifice but no weapons because they were not going for fighting. The idolaters stopped them at Hudebiah. Then discussion started between them that they should be allowed to go in peace and make umrah. Uthmaan RAa was sent to Makkah for this purpose. A false news came that the idolaters killed Uthmaan rAa. At that news all of the companions stood up and did bait with the Prophet Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam for going to fight to take the revenge of Uthmaan rAa. Although they were empty handed but they trusted Allah. Later the news proved to be false and Uthmaan rAa returned safely so no fighting was done BUT Allah liked their standing with Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam to fight for Uthmaan rAa and sent down the verse 10 of surah Al-Fat'h. The English translation is:

10. Verily, those who give Bai'a (pledge) to you (O Muhammad SAW) they are giving Bai'a (pledge) to Allah. The Hand of Allah is over their hands. Then whosoever breaks his pledge, breaks only to his own harm, and whosoever fulfills what he has covenanted with Allah, He will bestow on him a great reward.

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So now compare the present chiefs and da'ees (those who preach only to reform our selves) with the way
of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam!!!!!



I will call those people "non-Muslims" who are just and behave innocently to the Muslims. The example is the numerous non-Muslims in the Non-Muslim countries who are protesting against the killers and want the innocent Muslims be saved. Allah also ordered us in the Holy Quraan not to fight against them. Rather we are ordered to be just and fair to them. But those who know Islam very well and not only they rejected the Faith of Islam but also they proved to be the deadly enemies of Islam and Muslims and are fighting hard to wipe out the Noor (Light) of Islam. They are surely kaafir killers!!!


Your duty is to stop the kaafirs from giving "terrorist" name to Islam and Muslims if u have any love for Islam and Muslims.

 

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

`Allaamah Abu'l Faraj ibn al-Jawzi رحمة الله عليه writes in his "Manaaqib al-Imaam Ahmad", narrating an event that took place during the time of the Abbasid Dynasty, when the rulers were enforcing the belief that the Qur'aan is created and Imaam Ahmad ibn Hanbal رحمة الله عليه spoke out against them, and so he was put in jail:

قال أبو بكر المروذى: لما سجن أحمد بن حنبل, جاء السجان, فقال له: يا أبا عبد الله, الحديث الذى روى فى الظلمة وأعوانهم صحيح؟ قال: نعم, قال السجان: فأنا من أعوان الظلمة؟ قال أحمد: فأعوان الظلمة من يأخذ شعرك, ويغسل ثوبك, ويصلح طعامك, ويبيع ويشترى منك, فأما أنت فمن أنفسهم
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"Abu Bakr al-Marwadhi reports: When Ahmad ibn Hanbal was imprisoned, one of the prison guards came to him and asked, "O Abaa `Abdillaah! The Hadeeth regarding those who aid the oppressors; is it Saheeh (authentic)?" He said: "Yes." The prison guard asked: "So I am one of those who aid the oppressors?" He said: "The ones who aid the oppressors are those who comb your hair, wash your clothes, prepare your food, and buy and sell from you. As for you, you are one of the oppressors themselves." [Manaaqib al-Imaam Ahmad, v.1, p.431]

 

[Serinity]

Afaik, there has never been someone who has changed society for better, without opposition. I am not saying to cause chaos, nope. Rather, to do what one can.

The Prophet :saw: faced opposition, expulsion from Mecca, for spreading the Truth. What does that teach us? To never fear the people, but fear Allah, and do what one must.

We should help the Syrians as much as we can, however we can. Financially, dua, etc.

Allahu alam.

 

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

There was an objection earlier that I'm always writing negative things, about people, etc. so I would just like to respond to that quickly, In Shaa Allaah:

Shaykh-ul-Islaam ibn Taymiyyah رحمة الله عليه said:

“It was said to Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbal, a man fasts, performs Salaah and stays in I`tikaaf at the Masjid; is that more beloved to you or if he speaks against the people of Bid`ah (innovation)?”

He said: if he fasts, performs Salaah and stays in I`tikaaf he benefits only himself, but if he speaks against the people of Bid`ah, that benefits all the Muslims, so that is better.” [Majmoo` al-Fataawaa]

 

[Serinity]

There was an objection earlier that I'm always writing negative things, about people, etc. so I would just like to respond to that quickly, In Shaa Allaah:

Shaykh-ul-Islaam ibn Taymiyyah رحمة الله عليه said:

“It was said to Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbal, a man fasts, performs Salaah and stays in I`tikaaf at the Masjid; is that more beloved to you or if he speaks against the people of Bid`ah (innovation)?”

He said: if he fasts, performs Salaah and stays in I`tikaaf he benefits only himself, but if he speaks against the people of Bid`ah, that benefits all the Muslims, so that is better.” [Majmoo` al-Fataawaa]

This reminds me. It is better for a Muslim to go out and speak the Truth and speak against the people of Bid'aah, kufr, etc. Than to isolate onself in constant worship of Allah SWT, alone.

The Prophet :saws: didn't just pray and fast, etc. But changed society through actions. So:

Praying, and spreading Islam > Praying all day, only caring about oneself.

There is more blessing in being active in the community while also praying rather than just praying and doing nothing. Reminds me of a narration (from a relative) where Allah commanded the destruction of a village/nation.

The Angels AS went to the nation to destroy it, but saw a pious man worshipping Allah, always, all day. None else. Yet when the Angels AS came and said to Allah, that there is someone praying, Allah commanded to start the destruction with that man.

I.e. in short, Allah commanded the destruction of nation, and to start with the pious man, because he never talked to the people or invited them to truth, or tried to save them.

Allahu alam.

 

[hisnameiszzz]

The fizz in my community seems to have gone now. Folk were a bit worked up when it got really bad last week but it's business as normal now. Personally, I think it's shameful. I can't go and look into their houses and minds, for all I know, they may be praying loads and stuff.

Last time there was the onslaught in Gaza, people went into overdrive, there were posters/t-shirts/car stickers/rallies/meetings/long duas after prayers etc condemning what was happening but for the poor folk of Alleppo, it's almost like no one seems to care!

I normally go to Maghrib prayer early to sit and pray some tasbeehs and listen to the old people's chat. They were saying "oh well, $hit happens" to what was going on in Alleppo. I mean, hello!

I wish there was more I could do myself other than praying and donating money and writing emails and letters to the local MP!

Please keep praying.

 

[OmAbdullah]

True, Dua is the super power we need. To rely on Allah, NO one else, to pray, and trust Allah, to be aware of Allah. To have Imaan, is a super power in and of itself. a Muslim has a super power, to ask Allah for help, to communicate with Allah.

We should all make dua to Allah, alone. Cause only Allah can answer our duas. Secondly, I think being an idealist + a realist, a combination of the two.

To only say the good, and cover the bad news, is a sign of injustice and oppression, right?

Correct me if I am wrong, but, there is no ideal world in this Dunyah. There are bad people, good people, etc. To think of all people as good, and to stretch out one's hand towards the oppressor, while they cut your artery, is kind of dumb, right?

What I am saying is, be merciful, however, if being merciful means shading and ignoring the suffering of the oppressed and smilling and being good to the oppressors, then that is just being ignorant. And in fact, one is not merciful....

I.e. if being "merciful" conflicts with Justice, is that really Mercy then?

I am all for thinking good of people, however, is it really mercy to stretch out your hands to the oppressors, while they burn your house. It is like trying to be kind to a murderer in your house.

So could it be that, in certain situations, being kind to oppressors, is in fact, a form of oppression in and of itself?

I think like this - to be merciful to the oppressors that kill your people - is dumb and pathetic. To do so, is a kind of oppression towards the oppressed themselves. Right?

In short, being kind to oppressors, is Injustice and oppression towards the oppressed. Justice would be to end their oppression by killing them, if they do not stop. which in Assad's cause, I don't see happening.

Showing the good and never the bad, is oppression, too.

Allahu alam.

You are right, jazaak-Allaho khera.

 

[Born_Believer]

How has this gone from being a discussion on Aleppo to becoming a dissing match between posters?

 

[ruglifeTX]

I understand where you're coming from, and your point of view, and why you say that. You say that the government itself is the true enemy and there are people who can see that and are against it, and that's a fact. But, the thing is, none of that will stop what's happening from happening. There is an intense amount of hatred from people all around the world towards America, Israel, Russia. Things aren't going to get better. They're only going to get worse. The more America refuses to pull back its soldiers and cease its bombing of other countries, the more "lone wolf" attacks will start to increase in America, and many people will die. And why is that? Because in the minds of the people, millions of innocent Muslim children, women, men, have suffered and been killed. How much curses they must've made against America and its allies. Now, there are those people who want revenge for that. Who want America to taste the very same thing which it's been doing to other places. There are people who want America to suffer, to have their men be killed, like how the men of the Muslims get killed, to have their wives become widows, like how the wives of the Muslims become widows, to have their children become orphans, like how the children of the Muslims become orphans. America has brought this upon itself. It will suffer the consequences. Now, they have this clown, Trump, as the new president. His words and his actions are going to make things a million times worse for America. The more he attacks Islaam and clamps down on Muslims, the more bombs will go off, the more attacks will be carried out, the more Americans will die. That is the reality. You are correct: "Complaining on the internet" is not going to change that. Positive thinking won't, either. Positive thinking won't stop the American government, or Israel, or Russia, or Iran, from what they're doing.

This post of mine is just to state the facts. Nothing else. People mustn't be surprised or shocked when things start becoming worse. There's going to be a lot more "candlelight vigils" and "standing in unison with families and loved ones of the deceased", though that's not going to change anything.

Allaah Ta`aalaa says in the Qur'aan:

ظَهَرَ الْفَسَادُ فِي الْبَرِّ وَالْبَحْرِ بِمَا كَسَبَتْ أَيْدِي النَّاسِ

"Fasaad (corruption; evil) has appeared on land and on sea because of what the hands of men have earned..." [Soorah ar-Room, 30:41]​

I completely understand where you are coming from and like I respect your point of view even if I feel differently.

 

[Futuwwa]

The reality is that there is a war on Islaam. There is no war on Christianity, or Judaism, or Hinduism, or Buddhism, or atheism, or any other religion. The war is against Islaam. Every country is trying their hardest to eradicate Islaam, and they're starting off by eradicating the signs of Islaam, such as the Hijaab, the veil, the beard, etc.

The "War on Terror" is a blatant lie. They want to wipe out Islaam but they don't want people to think badly of them, so they instead lie and say they're trying to wipe out "terrorism". The terrorism they're referring to is Islaam, nothing else. Yet, people are fooled by their trash talk.

Every country? Funny that. If the major Western powers had had their way, there would have been no massacre in Aleppo now. Those Western powers have worked to bring about the downfall of Assad for years now, and supported the Syrian opposition to that effect. No, there is no universal war on Islam, just a lot of different powers with different agendas that sometimes make them oppress Muslims and sometimes makes them stand with Muslims.

"The world hates us for who we are and is out to get us!" is not only an imbecilic understanding of the world, but also the first line in every rationale for committing atrocities.

 

[piXie]

Every country? Funny that. If the major Western powers had had their way, there would have been no massacre in Aleppo now. Those Western powers have worked to bring about the downfall of Assad for years now, and supported the Syrian opposition to that effect. No, there is no universal war on Islam, just a lot of different powers with different agendas that sometimes make them oppress Muslims and sometimes makes them stand with Muslims.

"The world hates us for who we are and is out to get us!" is not only an imbecilic understanding of the world, but also the first line in every rationale for committing atrocities.

This is a misunderstanding brother.

 

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Every country? Funny that. If the major Western powers had had their way, there would have been no massacre in Aleppo now. Those Western powers have worked to bring about the downfall of Assad for years now, and supported the Syrian opposition to that effect. No, there is no universal war on Islam, just a lot of different powers with different agendas that sometimes make them oppress Muslims and sometimes makes them stand with Muslims.

"The world hates us for who we are and is out to get us!" is not only an imbecilic understanding of the world, but also the first line in every rationale for committing atrocities.

I don't think you've been reading the news.

Is there any country where Muslims don't get attacked? Happens regularly in America, in the UK, in France, in Germany. It's even started to happen here in SA where it never used to happen in the past.

Either you haven't been reading the news, or you don't know what I mean when I say every country is trying to eradicate Islaam. If they even say, "Muslim women mustn't wear the veil," they are trying to eradicate Islaam. They are not stupid enough to try and eradicate the entire Deen all at once. They start off with one piece at a time. When they've started with that first piece, they've started the process of "eradicating Islaam".

 

[fromelsewhere]

My perspective is that most countries nowadays engage in "realpolitik", that is, they base their politics and diplomacy mainly on practical rather than moral or ideological considerations. This is usually not a bad idea because it is not always obvious to know who has the moral high grounds (if anyone) and who doesn't. Also, using a practical rather than an ideological approach to politics often means staying out of wars, realizing that even if a war sounds like it's justified, practically-speaking, it might come at great costs for the county and accomplish little in the end. But, of course, it all depends on the circumstances... there are some cases where not acting is not pardonable because the 'acts' can make a big difference for the better.

In the case of the conflict in Syria, I'm not sure that the Western powers should have or could have changed the outcome by much. They could have conducted more airstrikes, sent more equipment, but it may have just resulted in a greater loss of life and blood bath, and not much accomplishment in the end. I think we have already witnessed many clumsy and failed attempts by Western powers to try and get involved in Middle Eastern conflicts only to cause more harm and make the situation worse than it was (I don't need to give examples, do I?).

You need to understand that the Assad's regime and his allies had much to lose in this war, so they were fully invested in winning it. Losing Syria would have been an intolerable blow to Iran and its proxies, so they were extremely heavy-handed in this conflict. The ones who could have made a bigger difference (especially early on), in my opinion, are the neighbouring Arab countries. They understand the conflict much better and know which groups to support and which groups are going to cause mayhem and should not be encouraged or funded. They have a better idea of what's going on on the grounds (that is, they have more reliable contacts). If they would have supported the rebels more wisely and with actions rather than just words, the outcomes could have been different. But no, the neighbouring Arab countries had an attitude of crying out to the Western powers (as they often do), in the hopes that the Western powers would get involved and do some of the dirty work to put an end to the conflict. But the Western powers decided not to get involved too much.

There is a good saying that goes like this: "If you want something done right, do it yourself."

EDIT: Just to clarify my position in case it gets misinterpreted (after all, this is the internet): negotiating and trying to maintain the peace should always be priority #1 and is always the best action to take if it is at all possible. Many rebel groups did not even want to sit down and attempt to negotiate with Assad because they considered that anything short of Assad's regime falling was unacceptable to them. Perhaps Assad would have been less likely to hold on to power so strenuously if he knew that his fall would not lead to severe hardship for the Alawites and his other supporters. This is just speculation on my part. Who knows?

 

[Futuwwa]

I don't think you've been reading the news.

Is there any country where Muslims don't get attacked? Happens regularly in America, in the UK, in France, in Germany. It's even started to happen here in SA where it never used to happen in the past.

A bunch of attacks by random people isn't government policy, let alone a universal war on Islam by everyone else.

Either you haven't been reading the news, or you don't know what I mean when I say every country is trying to eradicate Islaam. If they even say, "Muslim women mustn't wear the veil," they are trying to eradicate Islaam. They are not stupid enough to try and eradicate the entire Deen all at once. They start off with one piece at a time. When they've started with that first piece, they've started the process of "eradicating Islaam".

A completely arbitrary and unsubstantiated extrapolation. Unless to you, "eradicating Islam" is broad enough to contain everything remotely related, such as friendly atheists hoping for religion to go away, in which case your definition is self-serving to the extent of being meaningless.

Also, I notice you moved the goalposts and didn't even try to account for the discrepancy that I pointed out.

 

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[Futuwwa]

Wow. Seems like every thread I read right now, there are people justifying the actions of the kuffar and giving explanations on their behalf.. but won't even dare make excuses for their own Muslim brothers.. and sisters. May Allah forgive us.

Sister, you do realize that statements like this are 100% rant and 0% actual argument, right?

 

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[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Sister, you do realize that statements like this are 100% rant and 0% actual argument, right?

The sister is speaking the truth. She is 100% correct. It's not a "rant", or an argument for that matter; it's just stating a fact.

 

[hisnameiszzz]

Every country? Funny that. If the major Western powers had had their way, there would have been no massacre in Aleppo now. Those Western powers have worked to bring about the downfall of Assad for years now, and supported the Syrian opposition to that effect. No, there is no universal war on Islam, just a lot of different powers with different agendas that sometimes make them oppress Muslims and sometimes makes them stand with Muslims."

I struggle a bit with this. If the Western powers really wanted to get rid of Asda, they would have got him by now.

They wanted Ben Laden, they got him. They wanted Hossain, they got him. They wanted Gandafi, they got him. If they really really really wanted Asda, he would have gone by now.

Asda seems to get away with murder and is allowed to do what he wants.

I wouldn't be surprised if the West, Russia, Asda, Iran et all are all in this together and just make out they hate each other. With the media controlled by them and people being like sheep, they can get them to believe whatever they want. They scare people by saying "this country could drop a nuclear bomb" etc and have been saying that for years to scare people but it still hasn't happened yet has it?

Those are my thoughts and I am probably completely wrong but that's what I believe.