Refinding my faith

Re: Fundamentals

What on earth happened overnight that the brother decided to leave this forum?! What have you people said to him!
 
Re: Fundamentals

FreakOffALeash said:
I believe in a Panetheistic God. I believe God cannot exist in nothing. If a Heaven or Hell are a different universe then Satan or God must dwell in them? If there is no universe nothing can exist in it because without the concept of a universe there is nothing in it.




Whats is a universe? It is a dimension or area of existence separated from another.


As long as a universe doesnt exist nothing exist in that universe because it isnt there. I believe that god is a universe and that essence of time is god, omnipresent and all knowing because that universe consist of god. I also believe god can and is multiple universes and multiple existences throughout that universe.




God = time even the Quran and Bible state this but it doesnt go into explicit detail. Time is the existence of all things and their beginning and end "Alpha and Omega". The scientific formula throughout history for god was time. God is time itself. God can end or start, create or destroy, exist yet not be seen because he is time. People think of heaven as a different place or universe without realizing we are living inside of one as we speak.



I believe God is multiple and ALL universes. All universes and realities are god and his creations within his hands. Think of your hand and think of a coin in it. You created that coin and it is yours and you hold it in your hand. What if you where all powerful like god, you could crush and destroy that coin and wipe its reality/existence form the face of the world. But know that god has no weakness, no size, and no limitation. So he has power over all that he creates. God is not a person or shape or form. He is simply Existence, or time you may say.





God can easily exist through anything he desires because he has cerated it. Jesus can have easily been God or a prophet and God could have easily and literally dwelled within him. God does miracles and he cannot do them from afar.





He comes into existence as "existence" itself. Nobody knows what God does or has done simply because we cannot see beyond our world and most likely never will, what god creates is what he owns and what he owns he has the right(and power) to keep away from us. Do i believe in avatars and reincarnation? Yes because any Muslim or Christian would if they believe in the same ocncept of Jannah or Heaven.


If this is one universe then Heaven or Hell is another. If we die our soul departs from this universe to enter another, the issue is we do not know if we are only a spirit or obtain a new(same) body. According to Islam we do. We are capable of experiecning women and hedonistic pleasures so we must gain another body of sorts, a perfect body I may add.

So by default that is reincarnation. Reincarnation has nothing to do with being in this world or being reincarnated into an animal or plant or what not. it is the broad term for anything that exits its physical body and is brought into another. And if you disagree with this you cannot be a Muslim. Because you would thusly say that Janah is a "PHYSICAL" place.





I do not think any of my views fit Islam and this is the main reason. I DO NOT have an issue with salah and I really enjoyed it, along with the fact that no God only accepts Arabic. Islam is what Shintoism is to the Japanese, a culture form of fascism meant for that culture.



Nothing is wrong with fascism as long as you kill nobody from it and can withhold intelligence and rationality. Islam is Christian "Arabicism", It is Christianity for Arabs. Nothing wrong with that either but as I said, it is fully meant for the culture of the Arabic people.

I do not want to participate in this forum at all, I cannot stand theoretical absolutes. It makes many of you worst then evolutionist pushing evolution as a fact without it even being proven yet.

This manner of speaking makes many of you seem weak and brainwashed, even though you are not any of those it gives outsiders this appearance towards you. People judge theologies, philosophies and social effects by its founders and followers.
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I guess you were always influenced by hinduism philosophies :hmm:.

But thank you. You know what ? Don't take this as an offence, but I guess this is the first true and clear post from your part on this forum, unfortunately it's before you leaving. Because it clearely describes what complex belief you already hold before coming here. No doubt you kept these ideas all the time when you considered and dealed with Islam. Please don't get me wrong, I don't believe in any way that you were an hypocrite, but tbh, I don't believe and didn't really believe that you have become a muslim, when seeing the way you dealed with the matter. I was happy when I heard that you become muslim because I took your words the way they are, without too much questionning, but I always been reserved (I also didn't see where you made Shahada, maybe you mentioned it and I missed that part).
Anyway, as I said I don't say that (please don't get me wrong) that you intentionally did it, I never thought about that. But I think you were not ready, and all this was too much hard for you, with all the pre-concieved ideas you have. You were not convinced about Islam, even when you said you are muslim.
It's really sad. But I wished that you made this last post in the beginning.

You may have any belief you wish. It's all up to you. Take your time, seek knowledge, and chose what you think is more correct for you.

Anyway as a first step/advice/suggestion, you may search how you can prove these beliefs you have. As a wise person you have to not pick a religion just because you think it's suitable for you. You have to prove, for yourself in particular that you followed the correct path, and that you picked the more wise choice that will lead you to inner peace and to eternal happiness and accomodation.

Good luck.
 
Re: Fundamentals

^ Kind response, marwen. :)
 
Then let's shorten and sweeten it and cut the crap and verbal logorrhea!
 
A new member was interested in Islam, converted, started praying salah, found Islam too difficult, members advised him different things, his thoughts and expectations of Islam were different than to what Islam teaches, he left Islam and the forum.

That's in a nutshell.
 
That much is obvious- I however question the integrity of the member, the truth of his conversion and the real reasons he's on this forum. Nothing here merits that much dialogue. Islam is a personal journey and a solo path where we renew our covenant with Allah individually as we're born and as we return to him.. the same way Abraheam and all the prophets (PBUT) before us sans books or social calendar filled with utter nonsense. He wants to be Muslim wonderful, doesn't wish to be better still for this isn't the age of the people on the cusp this is the age of great schism. We don't need more Muslims we need better Muslims!
If you're going to place In Allah we trust as a banner and beneath it an avatar of Hitler then frankly you've missed the point entirely. I am surprised this BS was allowed to go on as much as it did. All the giggling and 'light hearted' banter this isn't the people mingle chat. It is an Islamic forum. Take pride in your Islam and do not make it subject of ridicule by the puerile.
 
^ That's what I was saying, But the brothers and sisters on this forum said that because he is young he is allowed to ask questions. He kept on ridiculing Islaam and I did not like it.
 
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What Allaah does is for the best. Always.

What has been done, has been done. There's no need to go over this again.

We were all trying to help, the Brother found it too much. Left. End of.

Where are the Moderators when you need them?! This thread needs to be closed!

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