Religion question?

[iLL_LeaT]

I'd like to ask you what is an Agnostic?

Agnostic: one who believes that the evidence for and against the existence of God is inconclusive.

 

[snakelegs]

I'd like to ask you what is an Agnostic? It sounds interesting

Main Entry: 1ag·nos·tic
Pronunciation: ag-'näs-tik, &g-
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek agnOstos unknown, unknowable, from a- + gnOstos known, from gignOskein to know -- more at KNOW
: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and prob. unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god

 

[HeiGou]

Originally Posted by HeiGou
Umm, please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't that pretty colored bit mean that Muslims are taught to not respect other religions (as they are "falsehood, distorted beliefs, and deviance"), but to respect the believers in other religions? Indeed Muslims are taught to, well, spread hatred against other religions (as they are "the representation of falsehood and deviant beliefs" which leads to "hellfire"), but not against individuals who happen to believe in those religions?

You cannot compare hate with respect, these are two completetly different definitions.

And I would hope that is not what I did.

If I hated you it doesn't mean I will not be able to respect you as well as if I hated your beliefs, it doesnt mean that I will not be able to respect your differences.

Umm, I am trying to untangle that and make sense of it. If you hate me then surely it is obvious that you cannot respect me. If you hate my beliefs, then how can you respect my differences?

If anything you are trying to say that just because a muslim may hate a religion, they must hate the person as well?? Or maybe you are trying to say that if you hate a belief, you cannot be tolerable with the believer?? You are a great twister of words, although not quite good enough.

Actually all that happened was that I was confused by your Sister's words. I asked her to clarify what she meant, and I have not understood her either. But I think it is hard, but not impossible, to hate someone's religion, but like them too. It is probably harder to hate someone's belief and still tolerate the believers of that Faith. But not impossible. I am sure it can be done. Do you think you manage it?

 

[*Hana*]

Peace:

I can hate drug addiction, but not the addict. I can hate alcoholism, but not the alcoholic. I can hate the belief that Jesus is God, but not the believer. It is very easy to seperate the two, I do it every day. My entire family are Christians and I love them dearly. All these things don't effect me as a Muslim nor do they effect my faith.

Peace,
Hana

 

[*charisma*]

Greetings,

Umm, I am trying to untangle that and make sense of it. If you hate me then surely it is obvious that you cannot respect me. If you hate my beliefs, then how can you respect my differences?

Hate is a feeling, respect is an action. One cannot always control their feelings, but they can control their actions. If I hated your beliefs, I respect your differences by not insulting you, hurting you, or ridiculing you in any way or form, rather if I disagreed with your beliefs, I can turn it into a postive thing and learn something from you.

Actually all that happened was that I was confused by your Sister's words. I asked her to clarify what she meant, and I have not understood her either. But I think it is hard, but not impossible, to hate someone's religion, but like them too. It is probably harder to hate someone's belief and still tolerate the believers of that Faith. But not impossible. I am sure it can be done. Do you think you manage it?

If you read it carefully, you would notice that it is really a clear statement.
I don't know about you (maybe its something you should work on), but as for me I have a very open-mind, so actually it is very easy for me to tolerate a belief that I hate, I encounter it everday, but I do not ever think once of hating that person. I've mentioned before that I have a friend who is an athiest, I hate the fact that some ppl just don't believe in Allah, but then again she's one of my bestest friends, and we have so much in common despite our religious differences, and over time that hatred disperses, you really waste your time lingering over something that you cannot change. As for being tolerable to believers of a certain faith that I may hate, well I don't judge a whole group of believers, everyone is different. I cannot say just because one christian is doing some thing wrong, it is my right to judge everyone else to be the same way.

regards,

 

[Skillganon]

I just wan't to ask, do you being either a christian, muslim or a Jew, love a polytheist saying to the idol you are god, and worshiping it as a god?

Be honest with yourself, you won't go to that person and say "I love you for calling this idol god and that you worship it as god, or call upon it.", an honest person knowing the truth will hate it, hate this person action. God for sure does not love it, it is so seriouse matter, for muslim, that god will forgive any sin, except for associating other thing's with God i.e. shirk.

A person knowing the truth and saying that he/she loves that person for his/her commiting this action (shirk) is not being honest.

 

[glo]

Peace:

I can hate drug addiction, but not the addict. I can hate alcoholism, but not the alcoholic. I can hate the belief that Jesus is God, but not the believer. It is very easy to seperate the two, I do it every day. My entire family are Christians and I love them dearly. All these things don't effect me as a Muslim nor do they effect my faith.

Peace,
Hana

Great post, Hana! :thankyou:

There is an old Christian slogan, which says 'Hate the sin and love the sinner', which just about sums it up, I think.
Having said that, it is not always that easy to do in practice - because in our human minds we muddle up the person with the deed.

God Bless You.