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There is a saying by Jewish and Christian scholars: "to go from text to application without interpretation is itself heresy". It can be hard to decide what is literal and what is not but Ibn Rushd defined a way of doing it: "if the literal words don't make sense then the author must have meant something else".
Is that your standard (I am bolding the part)?
So I'll take it that because the term "son of god" in the literal sense is impossible as well as illogical (in the monotheism religion as practiced by Abraham, Musa, and David), then Jesus as "the son of god" means that he is slave of god and servant of god instead of the actual son of god (just like the previous prophets had also been referred to as).
I got ya!
Consider Q9:5 about slaying idolaters wherever you find them (chronologically the last passage spoken by Muhammad)
Do you even know how this verse is related to the verses before and after and how and why the verses were revealed (ie. the situation where/when the verses directed to?).
Here's some explanation of the verse:
Allah mentions the wisdom in dissolving all obligations to the idolators and giving them a four month period of safety, after which they will meet the sharp sword wherever they are found,
[كَيْفَ يَكُونُ لِلْمُشْرِكِينَ عَهْدٌ]
(How can there be a covenant for the Mushrikin), a safe resort and refuge, while they persist in Shirk with Allah, and disbelief in Him and His Messenger,
[إِلاَّ الَّذِينَ عَـهَدْتُمْ عِندَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ]
(except those with whom you made a covenant near Al-Masjid Al-Haram), on the day of Hudaybiyyah. Allah said in another Ayah [concerning the day of Hudaybiyyah],
[هُمُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ وَصَدُّوكُمْ عَنِ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ وَالْهَدْىَ مَعْكُوفاً أَن يَبْلُغَ مَحِلَّهُ]
(They are the ones who disbelieved and hindered you from Al-Masjid Al-Haram and detained the sacrificial animals, from reaching their place of sacrifice.) [48:25] Allah said next,
[فَمَا اسْتَقَـمُواْ لَكُمْ فَاسْتَقِيمُواْ لَهُمْ]
(So long as they are true to you, stand you true to them.), if they keep the terms of the treaties you conducted with them, including peace between you and them for ten years,
[فَاسْتَقِيمُواْ لَهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُتَّقِينَ]
(then stand you true to them. Verily, Allah loves those who have Taqwa.) The Messenger of Allah and the Muslims preserved the terms of the treaty with the people of Makkah from the month of Dhul-Qa`dah in the sixth year [of Hijrah], until the Quraysh broke it and helped their allies, Banu Bakr, against Khuza`ah, the allies of Allah's Messenger . Aided by the Quraysh, Banu Bakr killed some of Bani Khuza`ah in the Sacred Area! The Messenger of Allah led an invasion army in the month of Ramadan, of the eighth year, and Allah opened the Sacred Area for him to rule over them, all thanks are due to Allah. The Messenger of Allah freed the Quraysh who embraced Islam after they were overpowered and defeated. These numbered around two thousands, and they were refered to by the name `Tulaqa' afterwards. Those among them who remained in disbelief and ran away from Allah's Messenger were sent promises of safe refuge for four months, during which they were allowed to move about freely. They included Safwan bin Umayyah, `Ikrimah bin Abi Jahl and many others. Allah later on guided them to Islam, and they became excellent believers. Surely, Allah is worthy of all praise for all His actions and decrees.
[كَيْفَ وَإِن يَظْهَرُوا عَلَيْكُمْ لاَ يَرْقُبُواْ فِيكُمْ إِلاًّ وَلاَ ذِمَّةً يُرْضُونَكُم بِأَفْوَهِهِمْ وَتَأْبَى قُلُوبُهُمْ وَأَكْثَرُهُمْ فَـسِقُونَ ]
(8. How When if you are overpowered by them, they regard not the ties, either of kinship, (Ill) or of covenant (Dhimmah) With their mouths they please you, but their hearts are averse to you, and most of them are rebellious.)
Q5:60 that Allah transformed Jews into pigs and monkeys - how do you interpret these verses
Yes, we do take this verse as literal.
What is your problem here? Are you doubting God not able to transform jews (who became extremely obedient, read other verses related to it and you would understand how extremely obedient were the jews) into pigs and monkeys?
This does not make sense to you?
I know how your scripture is filled with unbelievable things such a prophet who wrestled with god and won, a prophet who drank and then had sex with his own daughters, etc etc
so that you eschew almost everything in your own scripture that does not fit your taste.
Of course I know that events such as the inquisition and the crusades happened and I regard them both as an absolute disgrace. Now let me ask you; is there ANY event in Islamic history you are ashamed of: Massacre of Jews in Medina, millions died in Bangladesh, Darfur, 9/11 and hundreds of other events?
I am not ashamed of the massacres of jews in madina, why should I?
t seems you think you know more than all muslims in the world, so please tell us more about what actually happened, why it happened, basically the complete details regarding the events.
what is the name of the jews tribe? why did they get killed?
millions died in bangladesh? from flooding?
darfur? Please enlighten me of what truly happenend in Darfur sans western media propaganda? Maybe you can also fill us in on "the LORD's Resistance Army"?
9/11? a two planes that took down cleanly THREE towers? Independent investigation please.
Hundreds other events? is that the best you can do?
What about this teaching from christ:
Thou shall not kill??
Judge not les ye be judged??
Give your other cheek?
Love your enemy??
Apparently this is completely lost on the churches throughout history to current dates.
Apparently it was totally lost on leaders of main congregation in america who were the main cheerleaders for Bush' invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq that killed a million muslims in the name of "fighting evil"
How about the 800,000-1,000,000 killed in Rwanda where the main perpretators were churches leaders including priests, pastors and nuns? What about a million killed in congo?
How about the slaughtering of muslims in bosnia and kosovo where the christian europe sitting idle?
All these are current massacres, not past history like the unspeakable crimes of the crusades and teh inquisitions.
Why do churches leaders keep repeating history and committing heinous crimes?
Is it because they believe that jesus has died for their sins so they have a free pass to heaven and so they can do anything they like?
Only a blind mind can read the four Gospels and conclude that Jesus was violent or advocated violence or that this passage means we can also be violent
Chill out dude.
No one said jesus pbuh was violent or advocating viol
i said that according to your scripture he is not shy to kill thousands of pigs to save a human live, and will kill the antichrist and its followers.
By the way,
Is there a "Gospel according to Jesus?"
I'd love to read that.