RM 3,500,000.00 to reislamize 35 girls.

[Selising]

The main objective of the government is to stop Pan-Malaysia Islamic Party (PAS) movement. PAS becoming more popular in 90s compared to ruling party since PAS wants to set-up an Islamic country while ruling party (BN) is a multi-racial combination of political parties.

To stop the growing polularity of PAS they did a lot of thing. Teaching very basic Islamic study and they call it Islamic Study. Teaching Arabic language in a school and they call it Islamic School. Cut short the Fardhu Ain classes in most madrasa from 2 1/2 hours to 1 hour. Stop sending students to oversea since 1985.

U might ask me what is the relation? Most of Malaysian students who went oversea like UK or US, they will meet Pakistani, Arabs in UK whom teach them the true Islam. These people around 60% came back to Malaysia bringing the true Islamic teaching. They themselves wearing plain cloth, long hijab until their waist. The men with their beard and turban. These people normally became universities lecturers and formed usrah group and teach our young people whom later spread the true Islamic teaching.

This what the government don't like. When the understanding of Islam growing in the nation, they will love PAS, they will chose PAS, they will vote for PAS. This what the government don't want.

Nowadays, the plain cloth women will be rarely seen. Most Malay wear hijab, but at the same time, they are showing their navel, they are showing their bare skin, short sleeve tight t-shirt, their hijab is very transparent. They thought they are wearing cloth but actually they are naked.

 

[Selising]

Salaam,
If the chrisitan missionary are holding the people hostage then it is a matter for police not for religious police.

So pls provide the source.

In Malaysia, sometimes u cannot involve the law to get justice and to win when actually u r at the right side. If the person is already 21, the law said it is up to them to choose which religion they want to follow. As a muslim, will u want them to become a Christian? No! It is my duty to bring them back to Islam. Every muslims duty!

 

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

Irregardless,the families of the 35 people would not have called the police but the goverment body will.

And agian i reiterate,if the story is true ,the missionaries can be considered as KIDNAPPERS,for they willingly hide the people and then asked for ransom.

And kidnapping is a great no no .

It is not a matter of reliogn anymore but rahter a matter of LAW.
Is there any reason why the families or the Goverment body not to approach the police?

So pls provide a source.

 

[mahuruf]

But they refuse to let those girls come back to Islam, unless Muslims pay RM 3,500,000.00 to them as compensation. They said that they spent RM100,000.00 for every Muslim that became a Christian.

It’s an unethical conversion.

Salaam

 

[north_malaysian]

Salaam,

Irregardless,the families of the 35 people would not have called the police but the goverment body will.

And agian i reiterate,if the story is true ,the missionaries can be considered as KIDNAPPERS,for they willingly hide the people and then asked for ransom.

And kidnapping is a great no no .

It is not a matter of reliogn anymore but rahter a matter of LAW.
Is there any reason why the families or the Goverment body not to approach the police?

So pls provide a source.

As I've said earlier I've heard my ustaz saying this, he was told by his friend working in Jabatan Agama Islam Perak. Maybe some of us should meet any officers from JAIP regarding to this (but do we have the time?).

It's not something to be reported in newspapers or tv. For sure this kind of news will be banned.

Do you ever heard how many ex Hindus who converted to Islam killed. Are those cases being reported? Nope. Why? I dont know. That's why it's hard to say the source. Malaysia is full of rumors, like the ex-priest of sabah converted to Islam, After years - it's proven to be fake.

The moral of the story, is that the annoying status of our fellow Malaysian Muslims which dont really practicing Islam facing the dangers of being converted to other religions.

 

[Muslim Knight]

RM 3.5 million to re-Islamize those girls? It sounds paying ransom . That kind of money would be better put into other uses.

Actually it's our fault Malaysians that our Muslim girls are converting to other religion. We continue voting for a government that pays only lip service to our Islam. We can't imagine how it would be for our country were the current government to be voted out. Even with anger that comes with the recent fuel price increase will surely die down whenever its election time. We have the power to change but we choose to forgive a corrupt government everytime.

Our Malay Muslim men still pee standing up in public loos and we care not to admonish them carefully. We still arrange marriages for our daughters to people with doubtful characters (their wealth is more important as it secures our future) and then think we have fulfilled our religious responsibilities.

We entertain ourselves too much. Instead of one, we have 2-3 TV shows to produce more and more artists. We have turned our country into a music powerhouse, a factory churning out songstresses and actresses by the tons.

Sad affair that now we have to pay out RM 3.5 million to reconvert our children back into Islam.

 

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

Then be careful of what is spread by the mouth.

For word spread without thought have consequences that may be good or be bad.
As the Prophet said,THE MOUTH IS FAR HARDER TO CONTROL THAN THE HAND>
So i would suggest you to try to approach JAIP or send them an email
http://jaip.perak.gov.my/main.html



As for muslim who do not practise the way Islam should be practised the asnwer is simple.

READ the Quran.
When once the Propeht Muhammad saw was saddened when some who saw the sign but did not convert,and melanchonic a verse was sent that say that Prophet Muhammad saw is but a man,if Allah will then all of man will be muslim.

Thus the Prophet got an answer and admonition.
Propeht Muhammad saw was but a man,chosen to teach and guide but not to force.

So to perform Dakwah is not by telling or confraontation but rahter by OUR VERY BEING>.Fill the hollowness.

For a start i would say to you when you start to talk always begin with Salaam and when you are unsure of something then say Inshallah.

 

[Muslim Knight]

That RM3.5 million should be put into use into strengthening Muslim organizations throughout the country. Muslim Youth Movement Malaysia, Jemaah Islah Malaysia, PERKIM and all can benefit better.

Let those apostates enjoy their state of kaafir for a while. Allah's punishment will come soon enough for them. Mean while, we should devote our resources to da'wah, educating our friends and newer generations about Islam. Time will come when those who have opted out of Islam will realize the folly of their abandoning the True Light and the chastisement that awaits them.

 

[north_malaysian]

RM 3.5 million to re-Islamize those girls? It sounds paying ransom . That kind of money would be better put into other uses.

Actually it's our fault Malaysians that our Muslim girls are converting to other religion. We continue voting for a government that pays only lip service to our Islam. We can't imagine how it would be for our country were the current government to be voted out. Even with anger that comes with the recent fuel price increase will surely die down whenever its election time. We have the power to change but we choose to forgive a corrupt government everytime.

Our Malay Muslim men still pee standing up in public loos and we care not to admonish them carefully. We still arrange marriages for our daughters to people with doubtful characters (their wealth is more important as it secures our future) and then think we have fulfilled our religious responsibilities.

We entertain ourselves too much. Instead of one, we have 2-3 TV shows to produce more and more artists. We have turned our country into a music powerhouse, a factory churning out songstresses and actresses by the tons.

Sad affair that now we have to pay out RM 3.5 million to reconvert our children back into Islam.

It's hard to topple the current government because the hold everything, the media, the enforcement officers. That's why election belongs to them. Mayb all opposition should boycott next election like the Thais are doing to Thaksin. When BN rules 100% of the country with nobody challange them, I would like to see how constructive this nation would be. I'm not a PAS, Keadilan supporters, neither pro UMNO. But I think we are lack of democracy.

Reality shows producing artists in Malaysia:

RTM - Bintang RTM
TV3 - Mentor
8TV - Malaysian Idol, Superstars (Chinese)
Astro Ria - Akademi Fantasia
Hitz.tv - Blast off
NTV7 - I've forgot the name
Astro Vanavil - Tamil music competition (dont know the name)
Astro AEC - Mandarin music competition (dont know the name)

It's not 2-3 reality shows but 9.

 

[north_malaysian]

Salaam,

Then be careful of what is spread by the mouth.

For word spread without thought have consequences that may be good or be bad.
As the Prophet said,THE MOUTH IS FAR HARDER TO CONTROL THAN THE HAND>
So i would suggest you to try to approach JAIP or send them an email
http://jaip.perak.gov.my/main.html



As for muslim who do not practise the way Islam should be practised the asnwer is simple.

READ the Quran.
When once the Propeht Muhammad saw was saddened when some who saw the sign but did not convert,and melanchonic a verse was sent that say that Prophet Muhammad saw is but a man,if Allah will then all of man will be muslim.

Thus the Prophet got an answer and admonition.
Propeht Muhammad saw was but a man,chosen to teach and guide but not to force.

So to perform Dakwah is not by telling or confraontation but rahter by OUR VERY BEING>.Fill the hollowness.

For a start i would say to you when you start to talk always begin with Salaam and when you are unsure of something then say Inshallah.

I've e-mailed them and waiting for answer.

 

[Muslim Knight]

Reality shows producing artists in Malaysia:

RTM - Bintang RTM
TV3 - Mentor
8TV - Malaysian Idol, Superstars (Chinese)
Astro Ria - Akademi Fantasia
Hitz.tv - Blast off
NTV7 - I've forgot the name
Astro Vanavil - Tamil music competition (dont know the name)
Astro AEC - Mandarin music competition (dont know the name)

It's not 2-3 reality shows but 9.

That many!! Astaghfirullah! I didn't realize this because for me TV is something of the past and something I can live without. Hehe! ;D

 

[north_malaysian]

That many!! Astaghfirullah! I didn't realize this because for me TV is something of the past and something I can live without. Hehe! ;D

Actually it's more than 9:

A) RTM - (1) Bintang RTM
B) TV3 - (2) Mentor
C) NTV7 - (3) Audition, (4) Who Will Win
D) Astro Ria - (5) Akademi Fantasia
E) Hitz.tv - (6) Blast off
F) 8TV - (7) Malaysian Idol, (8) Superstar (Chinese)
G) Astro Vaanavil - (9) Tamil song competition
H) Astro AEC - (10) Mandarin song competition

Now it's 10.

Nearly all channels viewable in Malaysia, have so many entertainment programs

1) TV1 - variety; mostly in Malay

2) TV2 - variety; in Malay, English, Mandarin, Tamil, Spanish, Hindi

3) TV3 - variety; 50% in Malay, others in English, Tamil, Hindi, Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean, Japanese, Thai, Indonesian, Tagalog, Spanish.

4) NTV7 - variety; in Malay, English, Mandarin, Tamil, Hindi, Spanish

8) 8TV - most programs are teenager and chinese oriented; in English, Malay, Mandarin

9) Astro Ria - variety, 100% Malay

10) ART Al Manu'aat (Australia) - variety, 95% Arabic

11) Astro Vaanavil - variety, 100% Tamil

12) Hallmark Channel - movies, 100% English

13) Discovery Travel & Living - variety, 100% English

14) Bloomberg TV - business news, 100% english

15) BTP - educational, mostly in Malay.

16) TVIQ - Educational, in English, French, Spanish, German

17) Astro@15 - entertainment and anime, Malay & English

18) Astro Hitz.tv - 100% entertainment, English

17) AXN - action, English

18) Astro AEC - Chinese oriented programs, 100% Mandarin

19) Sun TV - Tamil oriented programs, 100% Tamil

20) Astro Box Office - movies, Malay, English, Tamil, Hindi, Mandarin, Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, English, Italian, Persian etc. (2 channels)

21) Astro Wah Lai Toi - Chinese oriented programs, 100% Mandarin

22) TVBS - Hong Kong oriented programs, 100% Cantonese

23) Phoenix - chinese oriented programs, 100% Mandarin

24) TVB8 - Hong Kong oriented programs, Cantonese, Mandarin

25) TVB - Hong Kong oriented program, Cantonese

26) NHK World - variety, 100% Japanese

27) CCTV9 - China oriented news, English

24) Phoenix Movies - movies, Mandarin, Cantonese

25) Phoenix News - news, Mandarin

26) Astro Shuang Xi - chinese dramas, Mandarin

27) Celestial Movies - movies, Cantonese

28) HBO - movies, english

29) Cinemax - movies, English

30) Star Movies - movies, English

31) Discovery channel - education, English

32) Animal Planet - education, English

33) National geographic channel - education, english

34) Nickelodeon - children, english

35) Disney Channel - children, english

36) Cartoon Network - cartoons, english

37) Playhouse Disney - children, english

38) Star World - variety, english

39) MTV asia - 100% entertainment, english

40) Channel (v) - 100% music, english

41) Astro Supersports - sports, english

42) ESPN - sports, english

43) Star Sports - sports, english

44) CNN - news, english

45) CNBC - news, english

46) Astro news - includes Al Jazeera, ABC and DW, news, English, arabic

47) BBC World - news, English

48) Ansar Channel - ISlamic channel (THE ONLY ISLAMIC CHANNEL), Malay

49) amacam TV - 100% Entertainment, MAlay

50) MTV Indonesia - 100% Music, Indonesian

51) TVRI - variety, Indonesian

52) Arirang TV - variety, korean

53) KBS World - 100% entertainment, Korean

54) Thai global Network - variety, Thai

55) GMA Pinoy TV - variety, Tagalog

56) TV5 Monde - variety, French

57) Shining Star - Taiwan based variety prog, Mandarin

58) CTI Asia - variety, Mandarin

59) SETI - Taiwan variety prog, Hokkien

60) MACTV - Taiwan variety prog, Min Nan, Hakka, cantonese, Mandarin

61) Horizon - Chinese entertainment, Cantonese

62) MATV - Chinese entertainment, Cantonese

63) MASTV - Macao variety prog, Cantonese

64) MTV chinese - 100% Music, Mandarin

65) TVS - Guandong variety prog, Cantonese

66) Fujian SETV - Fujian variety prog, Hokkien

67) TVCi - Entertainment, Mandarin

68) CCTV4 - News from China, Mandarin

69) Varnam - variety, Tamil

70) RajTV - variety, Tamil

71) Raj Digital Plus - variety, Tamil

72) MTV India - entertainment, Indian languages

73) Bollywood One - entertainment, Hindi

74) Zoom Channel - variety, Hindi

75) MAA TV - variety, Telugu

76) Kairali - variety, Malayalam

77) Fashion TV - fashion, English

78) Trace TV - music, English

79) VH1 - music, English

80) MGM - movies, English

81) Channel News Asia - News, english


Out of 81 channels only one is Islamic.:rollseyes

 

[Selising]

10) ART Al Manu'aat (Australia) - variety, 95% Arabic

37) Playhouse Disney - children, english

46) Astro news - includes Al Jazeera, ABC and DW, news, English, arabic

47) BBC World - news, English

48) Ansar Channel - ISlamic channel (THE ONLY ISLAMIC CHANNEL), Malay

Mine, Playhouse Disney Channel is 63, ART is 5. what is the actual Channel for Ansar?

Thanks for the info. So, ART is from Australia? I thot its from Lubnan or any Arab country. My mom enjoy this channel very much, even thou she don't understand it

 

[hammadj49]

Nice reply Eric.

Greetings and peace north_malaysian;

I find it sad and wrong that a persons faith should be bartered for money.

If Christians seek to help poor people they should not put conversion as a condition for aid

In the spirit of seeking justice for all people

Eric

 

[north_malaysian]

Mine, Playhouse Disney Channel is 63, ART is 5. what is the actual Channel for Ansar?

Thanks for the info. So, ART is from Australia? I thot its from Lubnan or any Arab country. My mom enjoy this channel very much, even thou she don't understand it

It's not according to channel lah, i just numerize it. Ansar only available on MiTV.

Malaysia follows ART Australia. Most of the programs are Lebanese or Egyptian based. I love Lebanese accent. :happy: