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Re: [Tafsir Al-Qur'an] What is a Sabian?

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I cant find the short definitation of this word, 'sabi'?

i am too exhausted to look tonight. i shall contd tomarrow insha'allah.:sister:
 
Re: [Tafsir Al-Qur'an] What is a Sabian?

Mustafa Allah. `Isa (SAW) was a Human being!! High exaulted be Allah (SWT) beyond all they associate with Him!

Salaam Cheese,
We do not compare ourselves to Muslims, we are what we are. Perhaps you should try reading through this thread again more carefully since it seems you have some massive misconceptions.

Study well.

You believe that the Quran is a revelation, your shahada is la illaha illa allah (at least i think thats what i read).. how is that not similar to muslims??:confused:
 
Re: [Tafsir Al-Qur'an] What is a Sabian?

You believe that the Quran is a revelation, your shahada is la illaha illa allah (at least i think thats what i read).. how is that not similar to muslims??:confused:

It is very similar. But we do not compare.
 
Re: [Tafsir Al-Qur'an] What is a Sabian?

Characteristics of the Sabi religion (Seboghatullah)

Sābi'ūn know Allah as the ADON of adonim and GOD of gods and speak to angels in their meditations [20] , each of whom they believe dwell in different stars, which has led to the erroneous beliefs among some that Sābi'ūn worship angels while others derogatorily call them star-worshippers (and so it is said in Arabic saba'at al-nujūm, meaning "the stars appeared"). Sābi'ūn read from the Zabur and use the sun for a Qiblah facing the equator at mid day [21] [6] [7] [22] . Their fundamental teaching is "La ilahah il Allah" [2] [3] [16] , but besides this ardent unitarianism, Sābi'ūn are quite akin to Christians [8] [23] . Unlike their Mushrik Sabian cousins, who consider themselves the people of Idris' son Sabi, Hanif Sabians are more universal looking to Noah as their prophet of the Din [5] Sābi'ūn have five daily prayers [24] (though Zohar can join Asr while Ma'ariv can join Isha giving the appearance of three). They believe in all prophets reiterating the Din of Noah and, not in the same way as the muslims, believe in The Seal of The Prophets [25] . They also fast for 30 days [26] .

Sabians who adopt Abram as a patriarch distinguish themselves from other Sabians by calling themselves Hagarim (Hagarenes) and were based around Petra. The culmination of the journey to enlightenment will be marked by a circumcision ceremony for most of those male Hagarim who get to this level. This branch of Seboghatullah has thus been dubbed "Hagarism".

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabians#Characteristics_of_the_Sabi_religion_.28Seboghatullah.29

Verily to Allah we belong and to Him is our return, this is pure shirk!

Allah (SWT) says (interpretation of the meaning), “Therefore turn in prayer to your Lord and sacrifice (to Him only)”

[al-Kawthar 108:2]

“Say (O Muhammad): Verily, my Salaah (prayer), my sacrifice, my living, and my dying are for Allaah, the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists)”

[al-An’aam 6:162]

“Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allaah, then Allaah has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers) there are no helpers”

[al-Maa’idah 5:72]

“And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad) but We revealed to him (saying): Laa ilaaha illa Ana [none has the right to be worshipped but I (Allaah)], so worship Me (Alone and none else)”[al-Anbiya’ 21:25]

Final Messenger/Prophet was our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), and there is no Prophet after him, as Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the last (end) of the Prophets. And Allah is Ever All-Aware of everything”[al-Ahzaab 33:40]

May Allah (SWT) guide you to the right path, and may He (SWT) protect us all from shirk and disbelief...ameen
 
Re: [Tafsir Al-Qur'an] What is a Sabian?

Neither The Prophet (SAW) nor any of his followers nor any of the Ulema ever made such an accusation against the Sabiah Hunafa sister, so if you are doing so then you are claiming implicitly to be greater in knowledge than all of them together.

Make peace not war sister.
 
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Re: [Tafsir Al-Qur'an] What is a Sabian?

An interesting fact I just discovered. Imaam Ash-Shawkaani considered the Sabiunah Hunefah (Agnostic-Monotheist Sabians) to be within the folds of islam and free from obligation to pay the Jiziyah because we believe that The Quran is a revealed book. It was very nice of him to suggest such a thing, but I personally would be very happy to pay the Jiziyah.

P.S. does anyone know what happened to the :coolbro: emoticon?
 
Re: [Tafsir Al-Qur'an] What is a Sabian?

With regards to who the Sabi Prophet is, the first answer is Noah (PBUH), and Abraham (PBUH) was the best example of someone following the religion Noah (PBUH) established. However, the second answer is not a prophet but a prophetess -Marym (PBUH). Marym considered the Jewish Messiah to be "the state of being saved/delivered" presented in her son 'Eso (PBWH) to the Prophet-Priest Yahiah (PBUH) who confirmed it.
 
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