Saddam to hang

i have read most of the reply on this thread and i notice alot of people are saying why Kill him? and talking about how it isnt right, some of these people i have also noticed maybe not in this thread, but in others have also talked about backing the insurgency and how it is ok to die for what you believe in. How come it is alright for the insurgency and this dictator to kill other at their will but when it comes to be their time it is a shame. This man was a horrible killer and deserves every milli second of his death at the gallows. I for one am happy to see this merciless killer die and burn in hell. This is a great milestone for Iraq.;D

Also i read a lot of people saying america supplyed him with weapons and i feel that should be clarified. We supplied Iran with weapons.

PS all of you who keep saying he will be "hanged" the correct word would be "hung", as in "he will be hung for his crimes against humanity";D
 
I have got this important question to ask and I would appreciate if you guys could answer it.
I know if U embrace to another religion when U used to be muslim- U deserve
to be hanged- according to Islamic laws
But what about Saddam Hussain's situation ? What does Islam say about that. Does he deserve to be hanged according to Islam?

Salaam
 
MTAFFI said:
what weapons did the US supply him?
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I too would like to know more about what weapons the US supplyed? Also did he supply the poision that killed the kurds?

If he did supply them (which needs to be confirmed) should Bush be responsible for saddam using them? If I legally sell a gun to someone should I be held responsible for the person’s actions? After all war is also business.
 
MTAFFI said:
PS all of you who keep saying he will be "hanged" the correct word would be "hung", as in "he will be hung for his crimes against humanity";D
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Actually, the correct usage is 'hanged' in this context. The word 'hung' is correctly used in the context of, say, hanging up washing to dry. 'I hung the clothes up'.
 
j4763 said:
I too would like to know more about what weapons the US supplyed? Also did he supply the poision that killed the kurds?

If he did supply them (which needs to be confirmed) should Bush be responsible for saddam using them? If I legally sell a gun to someone should I be held responsible for the person’s actions? After all war is also business.
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As was stated above. The US did not supply Iraq with weapons.

Although we did supply Iran with much of it's arsenal.

The mustard gas used by Iraq was probably manufactured in Iraq. It is cheap and easy to produce and does not need a large facility to make it in. It has been around for a long time, although not used in war until WW1.
 
The hanging cannot be public.

Because then Saddam will show defiance and die a hero to some.

The place where he is hung, ought to be bulldozed afterwards.

And he ought to be cremated and his ashes scattered in the ocean so there is no "shrine" of any sort.
 
Woodrow said:
As was stated above. The US did not supply Iraq with weapons.

Although we did supply Iran with much of it's arsenal.

The mustard gas used by Iraq was probably manufactured in Iraq. It is cheap and easy to produce and does not need a large facility to make it in. It has been around for a long time, although not used in war until WW1.
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No, that is incorrect. The US supplied Iraq with gas making techniques, and Saddam flat out told them he was going to use it on Iranian soldiers. Thats only the tip of the gun for the US. They also supplied two hundred millions worth in helis to Iraq. Here's a good article for further evaluation on the subject.

http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/iran_iraq_war_american_interest.php
 
AbdulHassanAmir said:
No, that is incorrect. The US supplied Iraq with gas making techniques, and Saddam flat out told them he was going to use it on Iranian soldiers. Thats only the tip of the gun for the US. They also supplied two hundred millions worth in helis to Iraq. Here's a good article for further evaluation on the subject.

http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/iran_iraq_war_american_interest.php
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Thank You, quite interessting.

Now it makes sense that there was strong suspicion Iraq had WMDs, we had supplied Saddam with them. It wasn't a suspicion we knew it, because we had supplied Saddam with them.
 
i personally dont believe this man should be executed. it is not the right time for it, all it will do is cause more fighting among muslims. i admire his steadifastness in the face of his enemy. but he doesnt deserve this but life in prison is more appropriate. He was installed and supported by america and now he is talking the fall. it is all politics in the end, and tommorow is the elections in the US, how random is that? Saddam is accused of killing 100+ people but if u look at bush he killed 600,000+ iraqis.

assalamuwalaykum
 
yusuf musa said:
i personally dont believe this man should be executed. it is not the right time for it, all it will do is cause more fighting among muslims. i admire his steadifastness in the face of his enemy. but he doesnt deserve this but life in prison is more appropriate. He was installed and supported by america and now he is talking the fall. it is all politics in the end, and tommorow is the elections in the US, how random is that? Saddam is accused of killing 100+ people but if u look at bush he killed 600,000+ iraqis.

assalamuwalaykum
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"and tommorow is the elections in the US" This is a midterm election year. The results will have little effect on Bush and Friends. They are not up for re-election yet. the outcome of Saddam should play a big role in the next Presidetial Election in 2 years. Saddam's execution now, could be a down fall of Bush supporters in 2 years if the Execution of Saddam does not end the bloodshed. If Bush and his supporters had planned this to support the Republican party, they should have waited 2 more years. So I believe it is a coincidence and wasn't planned.

Yes, I do agree with your stand about this is not the time for Saddam to be executed as it will divide the people in Iraq even further. But, the problem is when will be the right time, if there ever is one.
 
Keltoi said:
I'm starting to wonder whether this hanging will even take place. I can see a scenario where Saddam's lawyers manage to appeal the verdict for about 20 years until Saddam dies in prison with a bag of Doritos on his lap.
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They got to appeal automatically for death sentence...
 
Woodrow said:
"and tommorow is the elections in the US" This is a midterm election year. The results will have little effect on Bush and Friends. They are not up for re-election yet. the outcome of Saddam should play a big role in the next Presidetial Election in 2 years. Saddam's execution now, could be a down fall of Bush supporters in 2 years if the Execution of Saddam does not end the bloodshed. If Bush and his supporters had planned this to support the Republican party, they should have waited 2 more years. So I believe it is a coincidence and wasn't planned.

Yes, I do agree with your stand about this is not the time for Saddam to be executed as it will divide the people in Iraq even further. But, the problem is when will be the right time, if there ever is one.
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What I probably guessing at is that few amongst the many who resist the allied troops will take up his image as an emblem of defiance.

I am sure it is going to be potrayed in the media something on the line like

"the ongoing sectarian violance continues as Shiah (Legit) celebrate the death of saddam, and sunni (resistance) stuanch supportor of sadam (read dictator, evil) ."
 
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yusuf musa said:
i personally dont believe this man should be executed. it is not the right time for it, all it will do is cause more fighting among muslims. i admire his steadifastness in the face of his enemy. but he doesnt deserve this but life in prison is more appropriate. He was installed and supported by america and now he is talking the fall. it is all politics in the end, and tommorow is the elections in the US, how random is that? Saddam is accused of killing 100+ people but if u look at bush he killed 600,000+ iraqis.

assalamuwalaykum
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In this one trial Saddam is accused of killing 100+. But Saddam did that many times over many places. In one case he had over 400 of his own party's leaders shot just to consolidate his power in it. Over the course of his administration, Saddam may have by direct action or by order have brought about the death of over a 400,000 of his own citizens, plus Saddam's war with Iran resulted in over a million deaths on both sides.


As to Bush -- Even as dispicable as Saddam was, it is still a tragedy that the US ever invaded Iraq. But some quick math of just 600,000 deaths in the trhee years the war has been going on would be nearly 550 deaths a day. Even in the worst weeks of the war the numbers have not been that high. Now, even 1 death is too many, but given that there have not been 500+ death everyday of this war it seems the figure you are using is probably exaggerated.
 
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He deserve it, how many muslims dead in his hands. But lets pray Allah give him hidayah and he can do taubah in his last moments, AMIN.
 
Muezzin said:
Actually, the correct usage is 'hanged' in this context. The word 'hung' is correctly used in the context of, say, hanging up washing to dry. 'I hung the clothes up'.
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actually you are wrong, if you look up the word "hanged" on dictionary.com you will at the very bottom of the page the definition which reads as:

hanged (hngd) Pronunciation Key
v.
Past tense and past participle of hang. See Usage Note at hang.

When Saddam is hung and dead then you can use hanged, and in he was hanged from the gallows
 
MTAFFI said:
actually you are wrong
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Ooh, claws out today, eh? :p

if you look up the word "hanged" on dictionary.com you will at the very bottom of the page the definition which reads as:

hanged (hngd) Pronunciation Key
v.
Past tense and past participle of hang. See Usage Note at hang.

When Saddam is hung and dead then you can use hanged, and in he was hanged from the gallows
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That's exactly what I was saying. In the context of execution, 'hanged' is the past tense of 'hang'.

'— USAGE In modern English hang has two past tense and past participle forms: hanged and hung. Sometime after the 16th century hung replaced the earlier form hanged in general contexts, as in they hung out the washing, while hanged was, as it still is, retained for use in reference to execution by hanging, as in the prisoner was hanged.'

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Muezzin said:
Ooh, claws out today, eh? :p


That's exactly what I was saying. In the context of execution, 'hanged' is the past tense of 'hang'.

'— USAGE In modern English hang has two past tense and past participle forms: hanged and hung. Sometime after the 16th century hung replaced the earlier form hanged in general contexts, as in they hung out the washing, while hanged was, as it still is, retained for use in reference to execution by hanging, as in the prisoner was hanged.'

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lol ;D

i guess they might be out a little bit today, sorry about that

when i made the original comment about the word, i was directing it to the people saying he will be hanged, which obviously is incorrect. i notice though that you never even said it in the first place. anyways back to the topic. I am glad to see this genocidal (<--- is that spelled correct?!) dictator will finally take his dirt nap
 

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