Saddam Trial Flawed: HRW

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glo said:
What do you think, Woodrow?
Is justice done by Saddam getting the death penalty?

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Ironicaly I believe justice is served, but for the wrong reason.


Although I am not in favor of the Death Penalty, I do support the right for it to be enforced.

This was a lose-lose situation from the first day of the trial. It was not a trial, it was a mixed political statement. True justice for Saddam will not take place in this world. They purpose of the trial and a resemblance of justice being meted out by a questionable legal authority, will be subjects of debate for many years to come.

The simple fact is if he actually did what he is accused of, he has received the prescribed penalty and in that sense justice on Earth is served.

My concern is that the trial will be used as a means to promote personal agendas of many people who have ulterior motives.
 
Thank you, Woodrow. It is always good to hear your thoughts and views.
 
It is too late to discuss whether death sentence is fair or not, based on the current hour news he has already been handed over from US custody to Iraqi Govt., the report says that he will be hanged within 24 hours

Hanging him on Saturday (tomorrow) which will be an Eid festival day for all the Muslims will be a very big mistake. First of all it is the responsibility of the current Iraqi rulers to postpone it or convince the US whom I assume is pressing for it.

If Saddam will be executed tomorrow (Eid day), it will be another major mistake on Iraq by US.
 
This report condemning the trial originated with Human Rights Watch. Where were they when Sadaam was murdering kurds?

Noone disagrees with the fact that Sadaam did in fact kill many kurds, etc. The prescribed penalty for murder by the Quran is death (2:178), why would anyone here be against Sadaam being punished accordingly?
 
The trial was just for the rest of the world to 'see' because i reality it doesn't matter what is the outcome -it had already been decided even before the trial took place
 
There is so much dispair when Israel bombs a house in Lebanon full of guys who are making rockets to shoot at them, but then Saddam commits genocide against Kurds and everyone is saying the trial which announces him guilty is at fault.

Pretty odd from my stand point.
 
Saddam was obviously guilty from the get-go. Trying him in Iraq would inherently compromise his chances.

I didn't really see the point of this show trial, but it happened and he's going to hang for his crimes. I can understand where people are coming from when they say that he should rot in prison rather than die, but I think capital punishment befits genocidal maniacs.
 
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- Saddam was no saint.
- Saddam was indeed a dictator and a western powered watch dog.
- However Saddam's Tribunal was/is illegal. This Tribunal was set up UNDER occupation and the orders came from the White House via a puppet govt.,
- The choice of this particular religious day of Sacrifice during which Saddam's death was carried out represnet a humiliating smack in the face of the Iraqis (Sunniis + Shiis), of the Arab Nation & of the Muslim Umma.

- How can the rapist be the judge at the same time?!!!

- What about the other guilty men on the other side of the ocean?!!!

- Will you let them go free and unharmed?!!!
 
I also would like to make one thing clear,

His execution served the bush and western administrations more than the people of Iraq.

I believe the Dujail case was chosen not because it was the easiest to convict on but because its verdict would have the least consequences for the rest of the world.

To convict and execute saddam for anfal and Halabja would implicate many western powers and possible see further trials of western businessmen and politicians. I think most of us can agree on this?

Also, as i said, the legally recognised crime of genocide against Kurds would put them in a much stronger position on the international scene which i dont think anybody wants.
 
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I also would like to make one thing clear,

His execution served the bush and western administrations more than the people of Iraq.
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Possibly, although that doesn't mean it didn't 'serve' the people of Iraq. There seems little doubt that, as far as the great majority are concerned, it did. I'd add that virtually every 'Western Administration' bar the US made representations that Saddam not be executed.. although that is primarily the consequence of the fact that the death penalty is forbidden by the EU constitution.

I believe the Dujail case was chosen not because it was the easiest to convict on but because its verdict would have the least consequences for the rest of the world.
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Possible. You make a good point regarding the Kurds.

To convict and execute saddam for anfal and Halabja would implicate many western powers and possible see further trials of western businessmen and politicians. I think most of us can agree on this?
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Again, possible. Nobody would be tried though.. by who? And at the end of the day it is the person who uses the weapons who is ultimately responsible, not those who supply them or the materials to make them. That certainly doesn't excuse their actions, but some consideration needs to be given to motivation, which in the case of the US was primarily concerned with Cold War politics. No reason not to consider the consequences, of course, but it is a reason that any trial of politicians at least would most likely fail. Those most directly concerned are now dead, anyway.
 

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