Sami Yusuf replies to Yvonne Riddley

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i think everyone's got barred atleast once in their life lol :P
atleast when they close down their intro to the forum thread lol..
salam
 
From Sami Yousuf letter: "Be informed that the subject of music is one of the most controversial topics in Islamic Jurisprudence"

Oh is it really? you sure?
 
From Sami Yousuf letter: "Be informed that the subject of music is one of the most controversial topics in Islamic Jurisprudence"

Oh is it really? you sure?

it's a good strategy to label everythign as controversial when you're against a brick wall...
 
Salaam o alaikum,

What I wonder about, is that, are we not supposed to Abadon what is doubtful for what is sure? If music is doubtful, is it not better to avoid it?

Allah(SWT) knows best.
May Allah(SWT) guide us all and forgive us. Aameen

Alaikum Salaam
 
yeh that's if it is doubtful.. let alone if hadith's explicitly ban it..

i wonder if his first album is musicish? the one with the allahu ... someone got upset at me a while ago for listening 2 it but i thought it was ok coz its 'duff'

salam
 
Salaam o alaikum,

What I wonder about, is that, are we not supposed to Abadon what is doubtful for what is sure? If music is doubtful, is it not better to avoid it?

Allah(SWT) knows best.
May Allah(SWT) guide us all and forgive us. Aameen

Alaikum Salaam

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Excellent point sis...reminds me of a hadith stating something like "leave the doubtful and take the clear".

:w:
 
yeh that's if it is doubtful.. let alone if hadith's explicitly ban it..

i wonder if his first album is musicish? the one with the allahu ... someone got upset at me a while ago for listening 2 it but i thought it was ok coz its 'duff'

salam
No it isn't. It sounds like a xylophone or something. I don't know what it is, but it's not a duff.
 
xylophone.jpg

That's a xylophone.
W'salaam
 
Salaam o alaikum,

Bukhari, book # 34, hadith # 267

Narrated An-Nu'man bin Bashir:

The Prophet said "Both legal and illegal things are obvious, and in between them are (suspicious) doubtful matters. So who-ever forsakes those doubtful things lest he may commit a sin, will definitely avoid what is clearly illegal; and who-ever indulges in these (suspicious) doubtful things bravely, is likely to commit what is clearly illegal. Sins are Allah's Hima (i.e. private pasture) and whoever pastures (his sheep) near it, is likely to get in it at any moment."

And Allah(SWT) knows best.
May He forgive and guide our ummah. Aameen.

Alaikum Salaam
 
Salaam o alaikum,

Bukhari, book # 34, hadith # 267

Narrated An-Nu'man bin Bashir:

The Prophet said "Both legal and illegal things are obvious, and in between them are (suspicious) doubtful matters. So who-ever forsakes those doubtful things lest he may commit a sin, will definitely avoid what is clearly illegal; and who-ever indulges in these (suspicious) doubtful things bravely, is likely to commit what is clearly illegal. Sins are Allah's Hima (i.e. private pasture) and whoever pastures (his sheep) near it, is likely to get in it at any moment."

And Allah(SWT) knows best.
May He forgive and guide our ummah. Aameen.

Alaikum Salaam

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MashAllah...hadith relates exquisitly to the topic...Jazakellah

Note: Shaikh Shuraim recited the ayah in your signature beautifully in today's fajar prayer at makkah. You can find the recording at the imams of harmain thread.

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lol is that a musical device?? to me it looks like the thing htey wash dead bodies on

lol
thx 4 that sis!
salam
 
:sl:

Thats a really good reply. Although I agreed with Sr. Yvonne Ridley on several points in her initial article, there was a lot of things she said that she could instead have not said. With regards to Br. Sami Yusuf, although i don't agree with him on music being halal, he has a valid point in saying there is ikhtilaf amongst the scholars, there is no clear concensus.
Some will ban music outright, even most nasheeds,
some say nasheeds are ok as long as only duff is used,
some say its ok as long as no stringed instruments,
some say music is allowed as long as the substance of the song is islamic, ie talking about the greatness of Allah SWT or sending Blessings on the Prophet SAW,
and then there are even some who say all music is allowed as long as it doesn't talk about inislamic things like drugs girls etc

Anyway these are the observations i've come accross on common opinions held by various scholars. So Sami Yusuf has a valid point saying we should respect the difference of opinions, as difference of opinions are allowed amongst scholars, it is how the various madhahib arose, and even during the time of the Prophet SAW on various occasions the Sahaabah differed on issues, and the Prophet SAW would say to both differeing groups you both are right, showing clearly difference of opinion is allowed. So if we don't agree with Sami Yusufs views we should still have adab and respect the opinion he is following. Too often i hear scholars say "Music is haraam, if someone tells you music isn't haraam he is lieing to you" Subhanallah accusing other scholars of lieing on such issues

Anyway my own opinion is there is doubt in this matter so why not take the safe option. islam has given us so many options, that we don't need to take from doubtful matters when he have clear halal alternatives. Artists like Kamal Uddin don't even use a duff, masha'allah he only talks about the greatness of Allah and sends blessings on the Prophet SAW. In his albums he also includes du'as and verses from the Qur'an, so when we have a clear halal alternative, why take the doubtful matter?

However, Sr Yvonne did have good points in her initial arrticle that too many people are focussing on nasheeds and not enough on Qur'an. Nasheeds is almost taking over and enetering out hearts, wheras it should be the Qur'an in our heart, and nasheeds should only be used sparingly now and then. i know myself i am too guilty of this. I hope though this doesn't turn into rebuttals over the net, and Sr Yvonne makes a reply, then Br sami makes another reply and it keeps going. it's not very good for unity purposes to be arguing over such little issues. Instead maybe they should just speak to each other in person, or communicate by email rather than in public. Besides, i don't think Sr Yvonne can really say anything in reply to Sami Yusufs reply, it's insha'allah a closed amtter now
 
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You know what, maybe akhee Sami doesn't know, but there are too many girls ogling at the pictures on his website. I don't think it is beneficial in the least to have them up there. Man, don't even go to the fitnah book, whoops I meant guest book.
 

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