Saudis Snub Beer-sponsored Player Award

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oh yeh so true there's a verse in surat nisa about that, if people are doing haramand you sit with them, then you are like them... i think between verse 130-170ish

salam
 
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Mash'Allah atleast there's some iman there, may be the suadi population will snub their goverment and bring in the sharia Asking too much am I?
 
The issue is, that if they are top sportsmen that ought to have self discipline.

Team management has made sure they do not.

Without discipline, they cannot win their games.
 
The issue is, that if they are top sportsmen that ought to have self discipline.

Team management has made sure they do not.

Without discipline, they cannot win their games.

And people need to learn not to make such sweeping judgements about people, especially when they dont understand their culture and religion.
 
This implies the players do not have self control.


As to the sponsor, perhaps next time it ought to be a cigarette company. Saudis must be among the heaviest smokers around.
oh why have laws and police then? pple should have self control innit :thankyou:
 
hahahaha vahid u killed it

yeh joe go convict your president/PM for not trusting his people to hav self control, sentence him for life imprisonment due to state-sponsored population insultation

salam
 
Vahid said:
oh why have laws and police then?


The law says you cannot steal.
But some people do steal. Because they have no self discipline.
And are punished afterwards.

For the footballers, the rules say they cannot watch porno.
The footballers ought to be professional. They should have self discipline.

They have no self descipine and this showed on the football field.
 
The law says you cannot steal.
But some people do steal. Because they have no self discipline.
And are punished afterwards.

For the footballers, the rules say they cannot watch porno.
The footballers ought to be professional. They should have self discipline.

They have no self descipine and this showed on the football field.

For CEO's the law says they can't get involved into collusion and corporate scandals..
The CEO's ought to be proffessional. They should have self discipline.

Yet ENRON's CEO's have no self discipline and this showed in the court case. But according to Joe we still don't need to have laws and people who enforce the laws....

Madonna was a druggee yet he was a very good soccer player, therefore we should permit drugs.. Because it doesn't seem to affect soccer player performance

Yuppee.. :rollseyes

joe => :omg:
 
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The Enron people were given the opportunity to show they have self discipline. They showed they had none.

The Saudi team was not given the opportunity to show they have any self discipline.
 
The Enron people were given the opportunity to show they have self discipline. They showed they had none.

That's besides the point, you're saying we shouldn't have any restrictions on them to do such a thing, Islam says we should to prevent people from screwing up their life or other people's lives.

The Saudi team was not given the opportunity to show they have any self discipline.

Muslim's aren't placed on a bullet train to hell fire so they don't complain "O Allah you didn't set any commands for us so we got tempted, O Allah you know that we are weak but you never commanded those above us to prevent us from falling into these traps".

You guys want to take a pointless risk, we don't. You want to put yourself in harms way, we don't.

Given teh chance to watch or not to watch adult TV has nothing to do with player performance, just like the way being a druggy or not a druggy didn't have much of an effect on Madonna's performance.

Pfft he was even caught speeding 120K's n hour on his way to the match..
 
PS: Enron not the only ones, point is, they done what htey did with all the restrictions and auditing they had in place (not as you say 'they had the opportunity 2 show discipline')

Imagine what everyone woudl do without any laws in place! Geez according to your logic, you should complain to the US department of defence for conducting security checks before people board flights!
 

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