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dishdash said:
No they don't. Please show us your daleel for this claim.



Alhamdulilah...
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You dont need daleel to know that the destruction of Masjid al Aqsa is what the aim is, so that they can build the temple of Soleman (PBUH).
 
aamirsaab said:
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To those members who wish to "take arms against the kufar in order to prevent massacres", here's a new method. Why not help preserve life via donating through charities, sponsoring orphans, looking after the elderly, donating money to palestine etc. This method involves no killing, no haram and it is perfectly legal.

Yes This is what we should be doing helping the Palestinians, Ever heard of Interpal?
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SATalha said:
You dont need daleel to know that the destruction of Masjid al Aqsa is what the aim is, so that they can build the temple of Soleman (PBUH).
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Actually it is against Jewish law to rebuild the Holy Temple until the Moshiach comes. By the time the Moshiach comes, no Muslim will have a problem with the rebuilding of the Temple because all Muslims will realize it is the will of G-d. Therefore, don't worry, by the time we rebuild the Temple, you will be helping us take down the existing structure, unless your stubborn enough to reject G-d because of your own personal pride. So basically, until Moshiach comes, you won't have to worry about rebuilding our Temple. And when Moshiach comes, well you won't really care according to our belief.

donating money to palestine
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If you are not careful how you donate to Palestine it can very well be used to by a gun instead of a hot meal for a starving family. You see, many corrupt Palestinians militants see it better to buy a gun to kill then provide for there ownign starving people.
 
aamirsaab said:
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Oh cool, just what I always wanted, another thread dedicated to Israel and palestinian conflict.

To those members who wish to "take arms against the kufar in order to prevent massacres", here's a new method. Why not help preserve life via donating through charities, sponsoring orphans, looking after the elderly, donating money to palestine etc. This method involves no killing, no haram and it is perfectly legal.

This is the real world, not an action movie, you can't just go around killing people and hoping it will solve all your problems. Besides, do you honestly think one extra soldier placed on the battlefield on either side of this conflict will change the outcome? This is not how wars or any conflicts of any kind are stopped. Think it through logically : you kill them, they kill you and sooner or later everyone dies.
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Offense is the best defense.
 
aamirsaab said:
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Not if your opponent is playing by the same rule. That's how you drag a war out until everyone, including civilians, dies.
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War isi nevitable fact of life that's why islam has sanctioned war when it's needed, allah is just we as muslims have rights and I'd personnally rather see every muslim martryed then live under oppression.
 
I'd personnally rather see every muslim martryed then live under oppression.
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Well I am going to make the assumption that a majority of Muslims would call you crazy. Please answer, what is the point of life if you cannot live it?
 
IzakHalevas said:
Well I am going to make the assumption that a majority of Muslims would call you crazy. Please answer, what is the point of life if you cannot live it?
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Sacrificing for the sake of Allaah holds a huge reward. Dying for the sake of Allaah is of the best deaths anyone can recieve. Allaah will raise us back up and we will be asked about our deeds and actions. On that day we can tell Allaah [although He already knows] that we did it for His sake, and therefore He shall reward those who work hard to please Him.



Peace.
 
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Fi_Sabilillah said:
Sacrificing for the sake of Allaah holds a huge reward. Dying for the sake of Allaah is of the best deaths anyone can recieve. Allaah will raise us back up and we will be asked about our deeds and actions. On that day we can tell Allaah [although He already knows] that we did it for His sake, and therefore He shall reward those who work hard to please Him.



Peace.
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Do you believe Allah wants his own creations to die for his 'own sake'? I believe the sacrifices one should make for Allah have been one of the most manipulative tools of extremists that shame our religion.
 
abdmez said:
Do you believe Allah wants his own creations to die for his 'own sake'? I believe the sacrifices one should make for Allah have been one of the most manipulative tools of extremists that shame our religion.
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All our lives are dedicated in order to serve Allaah. And the greatest sacrifice a person can make is to die for Allaah's sake.


Here's quite alot of sahih [authentic] evidence.


Virtues of the Martyrs
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=3&tid=9857
 
All our lives are dedicated in order to serve Allaah. And the greatest sacrifice a person can make is to die for Allaah's sake.
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Do you really think death is the ultimate sacrifice? One can sacrifice a lot more and help a lot more being alive then dead.
 
^^^^ ya i do^^^ Whats better than dying in the cause of Allah and then meeting allah as a martyar a word which today means terrorsit:unhappy:
 
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FBI said:
War isi nevitable fact of life that's why islam has sanctioned war when it's needed, allah is just we as muslims have rights and I'd personnally rather see every muslim martryed then live under oppression.
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You like many others seem to be forgetting the completion of the five pillars of Islam: tawheed, salat, zakat, sawm, hajj. Certain muslims, of similar mindsets, seem to want to take the easy way out: let's go die as a martyr (which, by the way still leaves palestine in its state of destruction - the very opposite of what you went there for!). You do know that you have to earn your way into Jannah - you don't just hand your birth-certificate to God and say, "Sup, G. Yeah I died as a marty, where's my houris at?"

You know, if more muslims had my mindset, we would have peace on this Earth.

Yes I know that's the most egotistical statement in the Universe that you have ever read, but it's also the undeniable truth.
 
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abdmez said:
Do you really think death is the ultimate sacrifice? One can sacrifice a lot more and help a lot more being alive then dead.
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Yes it is, because its showing that the person is prepared; not just to sacrifice his/her wealth, not just his/her family, not just what he/she loves, but instead their whole lives.


If you really don't agree, then just look at the Qur'an and the way of the prophets, and righteous.
 
Fi_Sabilillah said:
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Yes it is, because its showing that the person is prepared; not just to sacrifice his/her wealth, not just his/her family, not just what he/she loves, but instead their whole lives.


If you really don't agree, then just look at the Qur'an and the way of the prophets, and righteous.
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I would sacrifice my life for my wife and children. I hold them more dearer to me then my life. I believe the greatest sacrifice I could make is giving up my family to death and being alive to watch it, so does Islam say I would have to do that then? That makes no sense. To me death is not the biggest sacrifice, and possiby that is what the other member was hinting.
 
ManchesterFolk said:
I would sacrifice my life for my wife and children. I hold them more dearer to me then my life. I believe the greatest sacrifice I could make is giving up my family to death and being alive to watch it, so does Islam say I would have to do that then? That makes no sense. To me death is not the biggest sacrifice, and possiby that is what the other member was hinting.
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The greater the trial, the greater the reward. If you were in submission to Allaah, and you were tortured, harmed, or even killed for His sake - then your reward is with Him.

If you just died for the sake of honor in this world by the people, or if you are doing it for someone else's sake besides Allaah's sake, then you will have to get your reward from that creation on the day of resurrection. Allaah may even allow you to have what you strived for, so if you strived to have honor within your family, lineage, or maybe just to be seen as a hero - Allaah may raise your honor in the sight of these people within this world, but because it was not done for the sake of Allaah, the person will not get their reward from Him.


And Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace. :)
 
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You like many others seem to be forgetting the completion of the five pillars of Islam: tawheed, salat, zakat, sawm, hajj. Certain muslims, of similar mindsets, seem to want to take the easy way out: let's go die as a martyr (which, by the way still leaves palestine in its state of destruction - the very opposite of what you went there for!). You do know that you have to earn your way into Jannah - you don't just hand your birth-certificate to God and say, "Sup, G. Yeah I died as a marty, where's my houris at?"
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Can u please explain to me how I'm forgetting the five pillers, and secondly how is Jihad(Qitaal) easy? if it's so easy why arn't u and the majority of the ummah defending our lands, let me ask u this do u know why a martry isn't questioned in the grave?
 
how is Jihad(Qitaal) easy? if it's so easy why arn't u and the majority of the ummah defending our lands, let me ask u this do u know why a martry isn't questioned in the grave?
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I'm sorry I was under the impression that Jihad was not synonymous with killing someone or fighting. But anyway, what makes it so hard? Go blow yourself up and go to heaven and get some virgins. What an easy way out, especially if your a poor person with nothing in life.

The hard part is living your life, doing good deeds, and trying to actually leave this world better than when you came, instead of killing some kid on a bus for "Jihad".
 
ManchesterFolk said:
I'm sorry I was under the impression that Jihad was not synonymous with killing someone or fighting. But anyway, what makes it so hard? Go blow yourself up and go to heaven and get some virgins. What an easy way out, especially if your a poor person with nothing in life.

The hard part is living your life, doing good deeds, and trying to actually leave this world better than when you came, instead of killing some kid on a bus for "Jihad".
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It's clear u don't understand Jihad so I won't even debate with u on it, Show me where I said blowing ur self up is Jihad please qoute me on it.
 

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