Schools 'must teach Britishness'

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This "Britishness" thing is a result of British-born Islamic terrorists that have and are attempting to blow up Britain and its innocent civilians. There is no loyalty to this country or pride and that can even spread to the moderate muslims too. If there is no loyalty or pride then these British-born Islamic terrorists will not think twice to blow it up.
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not according to Islam they can't. That is the funny thing.

Trust me britishness would not stop wrong from happening. If that was the case our primeminister needs a lesson in britishness, whatever that maybe.
 
Skillganon said:
not according to Islam they can't. That is the funny thing.

Trust me britishness would not stop wrong from happening. If that was the case our primeminister needs a lesson in britishness, whatever that maybe.
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Doing nothing would be wrong. Something must be done to teach people to respect this country. That doesn't mean running around the streets waving the union jack, although feel free. But the objective should be to respect this country and its people, be them Christians, muslims, Sikhs or JEWS.
 
England said:
Doing nothing would be wrong. Something must be done to teach people to respect this country. That doesn't mean running around the streets waving the union jack, although feel free. But the objective should be to respect this country and its people, be them Christians, muslims, Sikhs or JEWS.
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You mean teach them morals and ethics?

I am all for that.

Speaking for muslim, Islam teaches that.
 
thing is a result of British-born Islamic terrorists that have and are attempting to blow up Britain and its innocent civilians
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They would of become British born Islamic terrorists, if Britain and America had'nt invaded Muslim countries....
 
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Personally i think this whole 'britishness' idea and concept is more english-centric as opposed to being about the whole of britian. When people talk about britian, british values, british way of life, most times they're really talking about england really. I've seen nothing so far which encompasses scotland, northern ireland or wales, their people or their vaules etc..

I think before anything can be done on this, britishness has to be defined better and to reflect the whole of the britian isles and not just the english, who happen to be the louder, gobbier and more 'powerful' then the others.
 
FBI said:
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In other words loyalty to the goverment no matter what am I right?
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Not even I have loyalty to the present government. I myself find them all to be a bunch of *bleep*

You know exactly what I'm saying so stop trying to steer it.
 
It's fairly simple :confused: Respect the country and its people. It's not a trick sentence. Everyone else seems to understand it or perhaps you're lapsing a bit on the understanding level of the English language.
 
England said:
It's fairly simple :confused: Respect the country and its people. It's not a trick sentence. Everyone else seems to understand it or perhaps you're lapsing a bit on the understanding level of the English language.
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But u see that's such an ambigious statement, again I ask under what context, do u expect muslims to die for king and country or never to take arms against england?
 
FBI said:
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But u see that's such an ambigious statement, again I ask under what context, do u expect muslims to die for king and country or never to take arms against england?
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I expect every citizen to fight for their country if this Isle was attacked and invaded. In this country's time of need I would expect every citizen to fight the invaders, but I don't expect everyone to join the army for needless wars like Iraq and Afghanistan.
Respect the laws of the land, don't try to change them. Treat this country as your home, treat the people as your neighbours. Fairly simple. Lose the hatred for Western countries.

If I had asked you if you respect Iran or Pakistan you wouldn't even ask for the context. You'd know exactly what I'm talking about.
 
England said:
I expect every citizen to fight for their country if this Isle was attacked and invaded. In this country's time of need I would expect every citizen to fight the invaders, but I don't expect everyone to join the army for needless wars like Iraq and Afghanistan.
Respect the laws of the land, don't try to change them. Treat this country as your home, treat the people as your neighbours. Fairly simple. Lose the hatred for Western countries.

If I had asked you if you respect Iran or Pakistan you wouldn't even ask for the context. You'd know exactly what I'm talking about.
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Actaully I would've of, Treating Neigbours well is an islamic obligation.I will abdie by the laws of the land while I reside here, fighting for nationalism is prohibited in islam so I doubt muslims with knowladge would do so.
 
FBI said:
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Actaully I would've of, Treating Neigbours well is an islamic obligation.I will abdie by the laws of the land while I reside here, fighting for nationalism is prohibited in islam so I doubt muslims with knowladge would do so.
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You mean fighting for your country, which you say would be nationalism is prohibited in Islam? Is fighting to protect your home prohibited in Islam? Are you saying you would let the invaders take your homeland? So then, Iranians, Iraqis, Pakistanis, and other middle eastern nations you support fighting for their country are not real muslims. They're not following the religion correctly. How dare them, "God will make judgement on these people." The real practice of the religion is to let the invaders take your home, attack your fellow people without a fight. Just lay down and watch :rolleyes:

No wonder why people are so confused with Islam.
 
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England said:
You mean fighting for your country, which you say would be nationalism is prohibited in Islam? Is fighting to protect your home prohibited in Islam? Are you saying you would let the invaders take your homeland? So then, Iranians, Iraqis, Pakistanis, and other middle eastern nations fighting for their country are not real muslims. They're not following the religion correctly. How dare them, "God will make judgement on these people." The real practice of the religion is to let the invaders take your home, attack your fellow people without a fight. Just lay down and watch :rolleyes:

No wonder why people are so confused with Islam.
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Firstly you presume too much, What I ment by what I said it's haraam to kill someone for political reseasons. we've gone off-topic btw.
 

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