Science uses Islam?

[ژاله]

^the final death blow to all the opposing arguments, subhanAllah...
i feel no need to reply to Trumble's post now.

 

[Azy]

As many times as they've been posted they've been refuted.
Obviously that isn't something you or the majority of the residents here are going to accept.

Even in the video you posted, Zakir Naik basically admits that the descriptions given in the Quran were wrong if you use the meaning of the words at the time they were revealed, but that doesn't seem to matter because the Quran is meant for all times and all people. Future generations can subtly alter the meaning of words to make the scripture fit known science (with a little context contortion on the side).

If God had meant to describe embryological development he could have done it in a way so accurate and detailed that it would be like reading a biology textbook and impossible for anyone to deny, but he didn't. That information wasn't useful to anybody back then so why present it in such a rudimentary form?

(By the way, Ionosphere refers to the upper part of the atmosphere that includes the thermosphere, it's not a separate layer the atmosphere is usually only divided into seven parts on 'Islamic science' websites)

 

[جوري]

As many times as they've been posted they've been refuted.

As many attempts as you and yours have tried to refute, you haven't been very successful and a great deal of that is that google can't make you an insta scholar.. you still need a formal education-- you ought to try it sometime!

Obviously that isn't something you or the majority of the residents here are going to accept.

So why waste your time? just want to micturate in public?

Even in the video you posted, Zakir Naik basically admits that the descriptions given in the Quran were wrong if you use the meaning of the words at the time they were revealed, but that doesn't seem to matter because the Quran is meant for all times and all people. Future generations can subtly alter the meaning of words to make the scripture fit known science (with a little context contortion on the side).

I have seen no such videos by Zakir Naik.. and even if such a video exists the Quran would exonerate itself from the words of Naik:
(The science of tafseer) is the most honourable of all sciences for three reasons. The first reason is with respect to its topic. It deals with the Speech of Allaah, which contains every kind of wisdom and virtue. It contains pronouncements about what has passed, reports of what will happen and judgements concerning what happens between the people. Its wonders never cease. The second reason is with respect to its goal. Its goal is to lead mankind to the firm handhold of Allaah, and to the true happiness, one that does not end. The third reason is with respect to the great need for this science. Every aspect of this religion and this world, in the near or distant future, is in need of the sciences of the sharee'ah and knowledge of the religion, and this knowledge can only be obtained through the understanding of the Book of Allaah. [7]
Apart from these reasons, the Qur'aan itself commands its readers to ponder over it, and to reflect upon its meanings, for it says,
"(This is) a Book which We have sent down to you, full of blessings, so that they may ponder over its verses, and that men of understanding may remember) [38:29]
http://www.islaam.net/main/display.php?id=1350&category=4

If God had meant to describe embryological development he could have done it in a way so accurate and detailed that it would be like reading a biology textbook and impossible for anyone to deny, but he didn't. That information wasn't useful to anybody back then so why present it in such a rudimentary form?

It is done in the most ageless style.. there is no point in having a book that is meant for all people of all ages and have it be described only as 7th c will understand or 21st century.. it is meant for always.. we still use gross description modern day in histology and pathology.. I have in fact discussed this previously and I shall requote myself:

well in fact we have these terms and use them daily,
Nutmeg liver
strawberry gallbladder
chocolate cyst
Orphan Annie eye nucleus
fried egg appearance
anchovy paste (Amebic abscess of the liver)

these are a few of the winded lists we use daily in medicine to describe organs and their pathologies, and anyone is free to google to verify for themselves.. bottom line is for something to be described as a leech that clings (grossly) or a blastocyst attaching to the endometrium is very similar and very sound way to use language to transcend... the board of pathologists convenes every so often to re-define the terms.. what they deem synciotrophoblast might end up being placental trophoblast tomorrow.. if simple language is used to describe, it will be accurate and transcendent...
http://www.islamicboard.com/clarifi...6421-embryology-bones-flesh-5.html#post937271

(By the way, Ionosphere refers to the upper part of the atmosphere that includes the thermosphere, it's not a separate layer the atmosphere is usually only divided into seven parts on 'Islamic science' websites)

irrelevant as is everything else you write.

all the best of course!

 

[Woodrow]

Remember folks we are in Ramadan. this should be a time of peace, you may resume the warfare after Ramadan if somebody decides to reopen the thread then.